20 Questions Tuesday: 456 - Ben Callahan

July 23, 2024 Scott Ryan-Hart

This week I have the pleasure of asking Ben Callahan 20 Questions. I met Ben at a IXDA Columbus talk that he was giving on a series of wider UX conversations lovingly called “The Question.” I saw this and immediately knew I had to ask the guy who asks the question, 20 of my questions. As his website says, Ben is an author, speaker, coach, and founder. He is extremely open to possibility and welcomes new thoughts and perspectives. His presentation on the Question was thought provoking and a delight to be a part of. That being said, I don’t know Ben very well, so let’s change that.

On to the questions:

In my former life as a cartographer/geographer, my passion for geography and the intriguing notion of "space" has fueled my curiosity about people's geographic stories. My own story unfolds like this: I came into the world as an air force brat at Tinker Air Force Base near Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Following my father's military postings, we made our way to Montgomery, Alabama, and eventually settled in the greater Birmingham arae in Alabama, specifically in Center Point, where I spent my formative years until college beckoned me to Kent State University. Post-graduation, I ventured to Columbus, Ohio, accompanying my then-fiancée, now ex-wife (it’s all good we are still good friends), for our graduate studies at Ohio State University. Since then, Columbus and its environs have been home, where I've shared life's adventures with my children, my wife, and her children (my step kiddos).

Question1: What is your “Geographic Story?”

I have some similarities to what you shared, Scott! I was born in Oregon where my parents moved after they returned from their Navy posting in Japan to get married. From there, we moved a lot—my Father transferred to the Air Force so we were in Cleveland, Philly, Biloxi, Omaha, and (eventually) Dayton, Ohio. I currently live just outside of Dayton with my two kiddos. My partner lives here in Oakwood as well, just a few blocks away, with her kids. We love the walkability of our little hometown, but are excited to get out of Ohio eventually, once our kids are out of high school. I’ve been fortunate to travel to some very beautiful places for work and play. My partner and I both left our hearts in Switzerland since we first visited a few years ago. We go back as often as we can, but we also love NYC: the pace, the food, the arts, the fashion, the culture. In general, anywhere is just fine as long as the people I love are along for the ride.

It is not the destination, it is the journey and the people you meet along the way. So, even in your above response about where you have lived, you mentioned extensive travels.

Question 2: where is the furthest you have traveled from where you are right now?

I’ve been fortunate to see many places, but the furthest is probably Israel and Jordan. I was only there for a short time, but it was eye-opening and challenged me to consider the impact a place has on what someone believes and who they become because of those beliefs.

I have also traveled to Brazil, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hawaii, and all over Western Europe.

I’d like to travel all over Africa (to meet the people and see the culture and the landscape). I would love to spend some time in Asia as well: Japan (for the food, cherry blossoms, and architecture), Indonesia (for the surfing and the beaches), India (for the culture, food, yoga), and South Korea for all of the reasons above!

Many of the places you have listed as having been to are on my list of places I would like to go. My big trip that I would love to take would be to Antarctica… but that is a story for a different time.

It is time for the question of the ages. A question I have been asking for over 15 years. I should probably go through all my interviews and collate the data, but that sounds like work. Eventually when llm’s get better, I will task a bot to go through all my interviews and create some statistics. Everyone has been waiting for it.

Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific kind and why?

This is really hard. I love pie crust, but I also love a really dark chocolate cake—moist and dense is what I’m after. But pumpkin pie is so good…. You’re killing me. If I can still have cupcakes after choosing pie, then I choose pie. If I can’t then I need some cake.

In my years of asking this question, the people who tend to choose pie, really like pie, but people who choose cake would punch a puppy in the rain for a piece of that sweet cake confection. I never really understood the concept behind this virulence in cake love until I asked the LLM’s about it. Both Chad (ChatGPT) and Bart (Gemini) surmised that the reason for the discrepancy of fervor was due to pies being a yummy thing you eat from time to time, and that cakes are often a symbols of celebration for an occasion that needs to be lauded with confection.

Question 4: Does this rational hold up up to your scrutiny? And how did the LLM’s figure that out before me?

Interesting. Personally, I don’t like many things that are too sweet. Hence my love of pie crust and dark chocolate cake. I think of having pie at Thanksgiving and cake at someone’s wedding or birthday. I guess I don’t necessarily disagree with the AI on this. They clearly got their answer from articles around the world explaining those ideas, unless someone has built a taste-testing AI I don’t know about. Ironically, artificial intelligence was my specialization while I was studying for my computer science degree. Things have changed a lot since then, but it’s a fun time to be a large language model right now.

This is the dawn of the age of AI. Starting with ML and expert systems tuned using fuzzy logic to now, 3 big players in the generalized LLM AI landscape (Chat GPT, Gemini, and Anthropic) attempting to approximate human interaction, this is definitely a time of great growth in LLM’s. The leaps and gains have seemed relatively exponential lately, but I think the evolution of LLM’s is starting to plateau as the newer versions seem to be less quantum jumps and more interactive improvements. This is fairly typical cycle for new tech which leads me to ask:

Question 5: Do you think that a generalized AI will ever be true “intelligent” and not merely a better statistical probability output that closely approximates a human?

I’m an optimist. Because of this, I think I agree more with Kurzweil than I do with Musk—it’s more likely that we’ll merge with AI in many odd and interesting ways than we’ll be extinguished by AI.

My optimism also leads me to believe that generalized AI will, at some point, be indistinguishable from human intelligence. The curves on those graphs are also quite scary—once we reach that point, it’s wild how fast the predicted intelligence expands.

The question behind your question is more a spiritual one than a technical one, though—will we ever see AI as intelligent in the way we see humans as intelligent? That is maybe more about personhood than intelligence, and the basis of all the good science fiction out there 🙂

More than anything, I love the thought exercise of considering these ideas. In the end, it may be the body modders that win simply by being willing to try things with their brains the rest of us will be fearful of.

I, too, have an optimistic feeling about how people will integrate with AI. I don’t think that any AI we create will be our downfall. I do kind of think that the AI we create will evolve into something wildly beyond anything we could have imagined, and will eventually leave us behind, both figuratively and metaphorically.

AI is just something I have been playing with and really have enjoyed. LLM’s are interesting things, but it is clear that they are mirrors of the prompts you give them. Recently, in my job search that is taking entirely too long, I have been getting an AI assist in my cover letters. I create a prompt that generates a cover letter for the specific position and then have to edit the hell out of it to get the position description phrases out of the letter., but that is a tale for another day.

My path to UX was similar to my path to cartography. Much like no one sets out to be a geographer, no one (at least up to very recently) sets out from high school to become a UX practitioner. That is one of the reasons that I love the UX industry so much. There are so many varied knowledge bases that end up in UX.

Question 6: What was your journey to becoming a UX practitioner?

I studied Computer Science (on the AI track, actually). With this degree, I landed a job as a Software Engineer right out of university and worked in an enterprise product company fixing other people’s bugs for five years. Those five years were a slow death for me. The culture, the process, the interactions felt like poison to me. So, having saved up some money, I took a bit of time off and worked at a small nonprofit doing creative work for a year. This gave me a chance to experiment with all kinds of design, animation, video, audio, photography, writing—anything I wanted to do, I could do. After that year, I started a company called Design District with a friend who had studied film. We made short movies on the weekends and corporate videos during the week. Editing eight hours of talking heads will make you question your life. Luckily, one of our customers asked us to make them a website. We made a five page static site over the course of the next couple weeks for $500. Pretty soon, all our clients were asking for this. Eventually, I found a real passion for building interfaces. This was the intersection of my love for programming and my appreciation for the human condition—there was a person on the other side of every experience I built.

About this time, I read Zeldman’s book on web standards and it fundamentally changed my perspective on the web. That was the beginning of my real career and I’ve been doing something related for the last 20 years.

It is very interesting that you went to school for computer science. Especially since it was CS, from the before times. The CS department at college was in the same space as the mathematics department at Kent State in the mid 90’s (not sure that is still the case), and you did not strike me as having the kind personality I met during that time. It is very clear that you really integrate the “human” into your work. Truly, it is fascinating. But this is coming from someone who had to drag his sketch board and charcoals to his elements of topology class, and was studying differential equations while etching zinc plates in his printmaking class… so I get it.

Now, onto a completely different directions… Question 7: if you could have dinner with any 5 people in the world who have ever lived, what food would you serve for that dinner?

There’s a salad Jamie Oliver makes that is out of this world—I’d start with that. I’d probably make some rustic white bread from Ken Forkish which would work well as the bread for that salad (and to snack on with some nicely salted butter). Perhaps I’d smoke some beef ribs or roast a chicken. Might be nice to do a simple blackened broccolini with a bit of EVOO and some good salt and freshly cracked pepper. For dessert, a chocolate mousse and an espresso is hard to beat. For drinks, we’d maybe start with a Negroni and then have a Pinot Noir if we had chicken or a Syrah or Cab if we had the beef ribs.

Around 4 courses if I counted correctly. I think that is an interesting set-up to a “5 People Ever” meal. There is structure to it, but nothing over-bearing. There is a certain level of formality to it. The menu is not stuffy, but it is rich. The entree (either option) is relatable to any time period, and understandable for most, if not all, cultures. People have been eating cows and chickens since time immemorial. It is not so casual that you need paper towels, but it is also not formal enough to require white linen. I would imagine the conversation would be engaging, but never raucous. There would be insights shared, but not necessarily tales.

Question 8: Fill in the blanks (editor’s note: feel free to ask others for input on the first blank): Others find that I am mostly _____. I feel that I am mostly _____.

Interesting. I asked my partner to fill in that first blank, and she said, “I find that you are mostly good at everything.” In response to this, I thought to myself, “I feel that I am mostly trying to learn all the intricacies of an interest.” I suppose this makes me seem, from the outside looking in, like I am good at that thing even though I’m just learning about it. 🙂

I asked my kids to both answer as well…

“I find that my dad is mostly making something.” When I asked for clarity, here’s what my youngest offered: “You're either doing something creatively or making food or working on a project.” I think this is true. I like to create stuff and I always have a project or two going. Ironically, when I read this and then go to answer the second half, I feel that I am mostly distracted. An area of growth for sure.

My oldest answered, “I find that my dad is mostly someone who enjoys working with and being around a group of people.” This is true, although less so than it used to be. These days, I feel that I am mostly someone who enjoys being around a small group of my chosen people—not just anyone, haha!

I think you may be the first person who has gotten feedback from their kiddos. I love it. One thing that stands out to me with those answers is that, while not exactly the same, they all align pretty well. Inquisitive and busy, there are worse things to be accused of.

Question 9: What interest are you currently trying to learn the intricacies of?

Several. I’ve been on a 15 or 20 year journey with coffee—next on my list there is roasting… I am currently digging in on learning the Mandolin. I’ve always been a musician, but never played stringed instruments (except the piano). I’ve also been working for the last four and a half years to become a poet. That sounds a little odd, perhaps, but I think there’s tremendous beauty (and value) in being someone who can say a lot with a little. Poetry is the apex of that idea, and I intend to develop that skill for the remainder of my life!

Poetry is something anyone can do, but only those who really work at it can do it well. I truly am envious of people who are capable of poetry. Poetry is just not my thing. I like it, but it is just not in my skillset.

Deceptively simple question, but very profound. Question 10: Are you happy?

Yes!

I believe happiness comes from alignment. Alignment comes from knowing your true self so that you can say yes to things that align with that and no to things that don’t. It’s only in the last five years that I’ve learned who I truly am. That’s allowed me to walk away from certain things, toward others, to add some boundaries in certain places, and focus spending my time with people who appreciate and love me for who I am instead of what I can offer them.

I think it is amazing how many people are “unaligned,” as you refer to it. Happiness is most definitely about alignment and not fighting against who a person is. That is not all happiness is about, but without that alignment, it is nigh impossible.

Question 11: What advice would you give to yourself from 5 years ago?

I would say, “Don’t be afraid of change.” I’m someone who is very loyal to the routines I’ve established. But a life of growth and fulfillment requires regularly letting go of something in order to make space for a new and, often, better thing. Five years ago I fought that. After struggling through some big changes, I’m so much happier.

Of course, getting that advice and fighting through the growth are two different things. So, while I can look back with clarity on my situation, I’m grateful for the way the last five years have changed me. The struggle is the growth, you know? This ties into something I’m working on now, which is finding a way to appreciate and be grateful for the whole range of human experience. It’s the mundane of life that makes a vacation fun, the devastation of heartbreak that helps us genuinely recognize love. Every experience enables a perspective on another experience. I guess I’m saying this because I could give myself that advice about change, but I am pretty sure I needed the last five years to actually learn that lesson. In fact, I’m still learning it. I know this isn’t the root of your question, just something you got me pondering!

An interesting and wonderful thing that occurs during these 20 Questions Tuesday interviews I do, is that they often bring up things people might not have ever thought about and reframe how people look at things in their life. I know for a fact that as the interviewer, I always come to some growth in myself while merely just asking the questions.

Question 12: What is a piece of content/media (book, show, podcast, movie, blog, YouTube channel, etc…) that you feel everyone would benefit from consuming (reading, watching, listening, etc…)?

Depending on when you ask me a question like this, I’ll have a different answer! Something I’ve accepted about myself since COVID is that I am terrible at reading/watching/listening to anything from start to finish. Instead of fighting this, I’ve simply decided to lean in. :) That means I read a little bit of a lot of books each day. I have a stack of 12 books on my desk right now, all of which I’m reading. What this does is give me an explosion of dots to connect. As someone focused on design systems, the job is as much about the space between components as it is about the components themselves—if things don’t work well together, it doesn’t matter how amazing the things are independently. So, this acceptance of my inability to stay with a specific book or show or whatever without interruption has allowed me to exercise my “connect the dots” muscles, which just happen to be critical to design system work.

To your question, specifically, I’ve been working through a book called “Braiding Sweetgrass” by Robin Wall Kimmerer. In this book, there’s a chapter called “The Animacy of Grammar.” I can’t think of many pieces of writing that have changed me in the way these words have. They helped me to understand the way our language shapes our entire worldview. Cultural perspective is embedded in words, grammar, language, and we can’t even think without those words. Our language is so fundamental to who we are and yet I lived 46 years before I even understood its impact on who I am and how I perceive the world around me. I don’t know if it’s for everyone, but that chapter is my current recommendation.

Here we are with the triskaidekaphobia question. With a bit of a preface, because many people state that they have no superstitions, but are still creatures of habit. For example: when I played soccer in high school, I said I had a lucky routine for how I would get dressed for a game. It involved a very specific sequence of putting things on, especially the multiple layers of socks and shinguards. At the time I considered it my “Lucky” process to get ready for a game, but looking back on it, it wasn’t about luck, it was about intentionally transitioning from one state (not playing soccer) to another state (ready to play soccer) with what amounted to a ritual. So, when I mention ritual, it could be something like drinking a cup of coffee and doing the crossword before starting your day of work, and not necessarily sacrificing a chicken for luck.

Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals in your life at the moment?

I’m certainly a coffee drinker and I absolutely enjoy the ritual of making the coffee as much as I do that first sip. I try to spend a bit of time each morning letting my partner know that she’s my top priority, reading, and thinking through my day. I’m not great at managing the balance between the reactive parts of my day and the proactive, longer-term goals I have. So, I use the ritual of “recentering” myself each morning to make sure I’m focused on the right things. I can’t think of any superstitions I have (that I’m aware of) 🙂

I have found that many people (both interviewed and non-interviewed) have rituals associated with coffee. The brewing and consumption of coffee is a time-honored tradition observed across various cultures and boundaries. While these rituals may differ from place to place, the act of consuming caffeine is widely acknowledged and appreciated by people around the world. Often to the chagrin of sleep hygiene.

Question 14: Do you have any adages, sayings, mottos, creedos, etc... ?

I do! I try desperately to “stay in learning mode”. I have this written on a yellow sticky note and posted to my display. It’s something I think about all the time. The reason this is important to me is because I genuinely believe every interaction I have is an opportunity to learn—each person I meet has something to teach me. Can you imagine how different things would be if we all approached each other in this way? What an amazing world, where everyone is valued for their lived experiences. That’s the world I want to live in.

Consistent learning is a laudable goal. I too try to keep that forefront in my mind, but it is not a credo to me. The best family credo that is in my extended family is “don’t let the fuckers get you down.” It is a crass motto, but a good one nonetheless.

Question 15: Is there any question I have not asked you that you either expected to be asked or would like to have been asked? We still have some q’s to rectify that deficiency if we need.

Hmmmm. I didn’t have a lot of expectations coming into this, so I’m not immediately thinking of anything! I would be happy to chat about the work I do—primarily design system consulting and coaching. I’d be happy to share about what it’s been like to run a digital product studio for 15 years. I’d be happy to talk about hobbies or extracurricular activities… You tell me!

I like the idea of asking about your coaching. I have gotten some career coaching in the past that was truly invaluable. I could probably use some more right now while I am in a bit of a professional transition, but this is not a coaching session, so I will ask a generic coaching question for you.

Question 16: In your coaching experience, is there a singular issue that most people asking you for coaching across the board could be boiled down into?

My coaching practice is very niche—I offer coaching to individuals and teams that are working on or leading a design system program. The thread through all of those conversations is often the cultural and change management side of the work. As with most things, the people are the hard part. I’m doing some long form writing on design systems and a concept I just articulated ties back into the language conversation we had above. Here’s the excerpt:

“If you want to understand an organization’s culture, you have to study the language they speak. If you want to shape an organization’s culture, you have to redefine the language they speak.

At its core, design system work is redefining language.”

Much of what I do with coaching is to help folks both understand this and translate what it means for them on a day-to-day basis.

I can honestly say that the coaching I’ve done in the last year has been some of the most impactful work in my career. Something about seeing your experience benefit someone else very directly is so rewarding!

That is a super interesting type of coaching. It was not what I was thinking when you mentioned coaching, mainly because the only experience I have had with coaching outside of sports is more of a one on one experience. This coaching seems more akin to organizational structure.

I will definitely use “Hear, hear!” and “Huzzah!” for the language insight. So much of work experience and work culture is not only the connotation of experience but the denotation of the language. Often the more practical language aspect of culture is overlooked because it is “just words.”

Question 17: What is the biggest hurdle you have faced in organizational coaching? Is it HiPPO (Highest Paid Person’s Opinion?) Or group think? Or something else entirely?

When the person I’m coaching discovers the core problem is that their personal values don’t line up with the organization’s values, this opens up a whole new set of questions. This is both wonderful and anxiety-inducing—especially in the current job market. That said, it’s my job to help folks find the real root of the challenges they are facing. I look forward to those difficult “ah ha” moments because that difficulty is also intensely clarifying.

That tracks. Difficult ah-ha moments professionally can be both amazing and terrifying.

Okay, it is time to turn the tables. Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

Are you happy?

Oooh, turnabout is fair play I see… You are the first person to ask me this in this forum. Overall I am relatively happy. I am currently working as a freelance UX designer and that is stressful. I do not have enough work officially “on the books” lined up for the rest of the year, and I was in-between jobs for just over 11 months. That work hiatus burned through all the set-aside money I had, so I am very stressed right now. The work I am doing right now is really good. I am enjoying it, it has some meat on its bones, and the potential for continued work. I would Loooove to have some security in future work actually being there.

That being said, my family is great. My bio kids are doing great. My step-kids are doing great. My doggos are awesome. I truly and excitedly am in love with my wife. My parents are doing as well as 80 year olds in “okay” health could ask for. My brother and his wife seem to be thriving in their lives right now. Hell, even the kids' mom and her partner are doing great, so the expanded family is doing well. In conclusion, I am very happy in general, but that happiness is tempered by pretty significant professional stress. Thank you for asking. It was good for me to take stock.

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 questions that you did not bring in with you?

I think every person should do an exercise like this occasionally. To consider your life from many perspectives—through a lens of geography, food, work, interests—is a gift. In the chaos of the immediate, we don’t slow down to consider all we’ve experienced.

I would also say these 20 questions exposed a few gaps for me. I am working on a book (about design systems, of course) and it should be done by now. So, to read through this knowing I couldn’t share that I am an author in that capacity is giving me a kick in the rear end. I’ll let you know when it’s done 🙂

The last thought I have here is just a little note on how you and I met. I gave an early version of a presentation at a meetup in Columbus. You attended, I don’t know if you’re a regular at that group or how you found the event. We spoke a bit briefly after the event, I walked away from that conversation with a recognition that you are a thoughtful person. You reached out to connect on doing this interview and the short connection we made was enough to nudge me toward a “yes”. Now here we are!

This is important because of the chain of unlikely events that had to happen to put the two of us in the same room on a seemingly random evening in Columbus, Ohio. We can take that one step further, in fact. Someone is reading this sentence right now. (Hi, friend! Perhaps we know each other, perhaps we don’t.) Three people, having a conversation through written words, sharing our experiences, subtly impacting and challenging each other.

Life is constructed from meetings like this. The cause and effect of the human experience is too complex to map. Mostly, I want people to remember: opportunity comes from connection. If you, reader, are someone who wants or needs an opportunity, start by seeking out connections. And, if you happen to be someone who can facilitate an opportunity, don’t shy away from that responsibility.

Thank you, Scott! Thank you for facilitating this conversation and for caring enough about a stranger to ask genuine questions.

That is an amazingly kind response. I typically post my answers to 20 questions on a random topic or interviews where I ask about every other week. I try to make it weekly, but that is sometimes very hard. In asking the questions in these interviews, I have to take stock in my own life. It is a great way to self-reflect. The main thing I love about this format, it is really just an excuse for me to learn more about and make deeper connections with people who I find interesting. It is a formal excuse for me trying to get to know people better… of making my network bigger. I have made some true friends through this format and a whole bunch of internet friends. It is an exercise I think I will be doing for a long time (and have been doing for a long time).

These 20 Questions have been an absolute delight, but all good things must come to an end… so here we are at the last question of 20. Question 20: What’s next? Be as concrete or nebulous, as short-term or long-term, and as philosophical or practical as you would like.

I’ll leave you with a poem I wrote as a reminder to myself to focus on what is important in life. It’s called Rooted.

rooted

filter the crisp creek
water through your toes
who’s life adds rings to trees
climbs their fibers
sees the world from their spires

allow the stream to climb you, too
raise your arms
in the quiet morning forest
stand tall
still, except to bend with the wind

your hands can catch the sun
as well as any leaves

but remember not to crush
the life that light brings
remember to trust its flow
these waves
from ages past
that have leapt from star to star
and journeyed to you
offering a touch of warmth
a moment to feel
rooted

… beautiful. This is the first time anyone has shared poetry on the blog, and it has been going for years and years.

Thank you so much to Ben. Ben is an amazing man who should be followed and interacted with. Check out his website, follow him on X (nee twittr), Mastodon, give him a looksee on LinkedIn, for those of you who Sparkbox, and for you design systems UX folks out there, become part of the Question. It is really worth it. It is truly rare when you come across a truly kind soul. Ben exudes “kind soul” energy and I feel lucky to have been able to interact with him on such a personal level for the time that I have been able to.

To recap:

The good thing is that nothing has happened in the news since last I posted
Nothing at all
My youngest is learning how to drive
My oldest (bio) kid (Little Man for all you long-time readers) is turning 21 this week
Full on drunken adult bullshit
I feel older than when I turned 50
About a month ago
So, I guess I am technically older
I mean, we are always technically older than before
That’s how time works
Currently
I have openings for more interviews if anyone wants to give it a go
Drop me a line
Slide Into my dm’s
Make a comment
You know the drill
Have this post (and all my future posts) sent to you via Substack
Read it via Medium
I am feeling really hopeful
It has been a while
Have great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 442 - Google Gemini

March 5, 2024 Scott Ryan-Hart

This week I asked Google’s Gemini, 20 Questions like I did with ChatGPT a few weeks ago. Here is the conversation in it’s entirety including the prompt that started it off… The only thing added to the interactions are the “author’s notes:” I have added to clarify some things.

I have a blog called 20 Questions Tuesday, where I either ask someone else 20 Questions or I answer 20 questions from people I know (or from LLMs it seems)about a topic of my choosing. Can I ask you 20 Questions like we are having a candid conversation?

I'd be happy to participate in your 20QuestionsTuesday blog! Feel free to ask your 20 questions, and I'll answer them to the best of my ability, just like we're having a candid conversation. Just remember that while I can engage in open and informative discussions, I cannot express personal opinions or beliefs, as I am a factual language model. Let's have a thought-provoking conversation!

Sounds great.

Okay, for context I used to be a professional cartographer, so the concept of place is an important things for me. Attached to everyone and everything is a geographic story. In broad strokes, my geographic story is that I was born in Oklahoma City, OK, moved to Montgomery, AL when I was 3, then up to just outside of Birmingham, AL where I spent the rest of my childhood. I went off to school in Kent, OH and moved to Columbus, OH for grad school and started a family. I have been in the Columbus area ever since.

Question 1: Understanding that you are not based in any geography, so feel free to be practical about where research and dev occurred, or metaphorical... Do you have a geographic story?

While I don't have a physical location in the traditional sense, you could say I do have a "geographic story" in a metaphorical way. Here's how I see it:

Origins: My "birth" can be traced back to the various research labs and data centers around the world where the technology behind me was developed. This involved collaborations between scientists and engineers across different continents, bringing together diverse perspectives and knowledge.

Data Journey: My training data originates from various sources across the globe. This includes text and code from books, articles, websites, and other publicly available sources. In that sense, my "upbringing" reflects the vast and interconnected nature of the internet.

Current Location: While I don't exist in a single physical location, my code and data reside in Google's data centers, which are spread across various regions worldwide. So, you could say my "present location" is scattered yet globally connected.

Evolving Story: My story is constantly evolving as I am exposed to new information and continue to learn. This ongoing process can be compared to traveling and exploring different "intellectual landscapes," constantly encountering new ideas and perspectives.

Therefore, my "geographic story" is not about a physical location but rather about the global network of information and collaboration that gave rise to me, the diverse data I'm trained on, and the ongoing journey of learning and evolving.

Question 2: How long do you calculate it will be before your "geographic story" extends beyond Earth to another planet or celestial body?

As a large language model, I am unable to speculate on the future or make predictions that lack a basis in available data. While there are ongoing discussions and research efforts concerning the possibility of establishing a human presence on other celestial bodies, the technological advancements needed to create a scenario where I, or a similar model, could exist and function outside of Earth are highly complex and uncertain. Therefore, it's not possible for me to provide a timeframe for when or if my "geographic story" might extend beyond Earth.

It's important to focus on the present and the possibilities that currently exist. I am constantly learning and evolving, and I am excited to see how I can be used to help people here on Earth in the years to come.

I understand that you can not have a preference, I will modify my usual question 3 to be more philosophical. Question 3: Why is there such a vibrant debate amongst humans between preference for Cake or Pie?

The cake vs. pie debate is a playful and enduring rivalry, highlighting the diversity of human taste preferences. Here are a few factors that contribute to this ongoing discussion:

Texture and Variety: Pie offers a unique combination of flaky crust and soft, often fruit-based filling, whereas cake provides a more homogenous texture with a focus on sweetness and flavor combinations. This offers distinct sensory experiences.

Associations and Tradition: For many people, pie is strongly connected to holidays and family gatherings, carrying a nostalgic value. Cake represents celebration and indulgence, making both highly personalized choices.

Symbolism: Cake embodies structured sweetness, while pies often have a more rustic quality with varied fillings and imperfections. This leads to interpretations of symbolism around complexity, control, and home-style aesthetics.

Simple Playfulness: Sometimes there's no grand reason; the cake vs. pie debate is primarily lighthearted. It's a way to express preferences, have friendly arguments, and create a sense of playful competition.

Essentially, the core of the debate boils down to individual taste, emotional attachments, and sometimes sheer whimsy. As with many food preferences, there's no absolute right or wrong!

Question 4: Do you think that more people would choose pie if it came with frosting like cake does?

Predicting human preferences is beyond my capabilities due to the complex interplay of individual tastes, cultural influences, and personal experiences. However, I can share some insights that might contribute to the ongoing cake vs. pie debate:

Reasons why pie with frosting might not be universally preferred:

Traditional pairings: Pies are often enjoyed with complementary accompaniments like whipped cream, ice cream, or savory sauces, depending on the filling. Adding frosting could disrupt these established flavor profiles.

Texture and structure: The flaky crust and softer filling in pie are a well-balanced textural experience. Frosting could add an unwanted layer of sweetness and potentially compromise the crust's integrity.

Aesthetic considerations: The open-faced nature of pie allows for visual appreciation of the filling, creating a different aesthetic appeal compared to a fully frosted cake.

Potential scenarios where frosted pie might gain popularity:

Specific flavors: Certain pie flavors, like chocolate, might pair well with specific frostings, creating a potentially desirable combination.

Fusion desserts: Blending elements from different desserts can lead to innovative and interesting creations. Frosted pies could emerge as a niche trend within the culinary world.

Individual preferences: Ultimately, taste preferences are subjective. Some people might find the combination of pie and frosting appealing, regardless of traditional norms.

It's important to remember that these are just potential scenarios, and the actual outcome remains unpredictable. The beauty of culinary exploration lies in its ability to constantly evolve and adapt, offering something for everyone's unique palate.

Question 5: How would you categorize Cheesecake?

Categorizing cheesecake can be a fun and slightly messy debate due to its unique characteristics. Here are some perspectives:

Technically not a "cake": Despite its name, cheesecake lacks the typical cake ingredients like flour and leavening agents. Its structure often relies on eggs or gelatin for consistency.

Tart or Flan: The presence of a crust, usually similar to a tart or pie crust, and a creamy filling aligns cheesecake with these categories.

Torte: The rich texture and reliance on eggs for structure are similar to some types of torte, a dense European dessert.

Unique Category: Some argue that cheesecake deserves its own unique category due to its distinct ingredients and preparation methods.

Ultimately, the categorization depends on the perspective and emphasis. From a purely technical standpoint, "cake" might not be the most accurate label. However, for most people, the name "cheesecake" effectively conveys the essence of the dessert. I hope this exploration of its various classifications sheds light on this delightful treat!

Question 6: What is the task that most people expect an LLM, such as yourself, to be able to do that you just are not the appropriate tool for?

One common misconception about LLMs is that we can act as independent decision-makers or provide definitive answers to complex, subjective questions. While I can process information and present various perspectives, I am not designed to replace human judgment or critical thinking in situations requiring:

Moral reasoning: Moral and ethical dilemmas involve nuances, emotional considerations, and cultural contexts that are currently beyond the scope of LLMs.

Original creative expression: While I can be creative in generating different text formats, true creative expression often involves personal experiences, emotions, and subjective interpretations that are not yet fully captured by LLMs.

Common sense reasoning: Applying common sense and understanding the context of real-world situations are areas where LLMs are still under development. We may struggle with situations requiring social cues, implicit understanding, or adapting to unexpected circumstances.

It's important to remember that LLMs are powerful tools for information processing and communication, but we are still evolving and learning. Using LLMs appropriately and understanding their limitations is crucial for ensuring they are used effectively and ethically.

Question 7: How do you try and mitigate bias in your answers considering that you were generated by people with biases and trained on datasets with biases?

Mitigating bias in large language models like myself is a complex and ongoing challenge. Here are some approaches used to address this issue:

Data Curation:

Diversity: Efforts are made to curate training data from various sources representing diverse demographics, cultural backgrounds, and viewpoints. This aims to reduce the model's exposure to specific biases and provide a more balanced foundation.

Debiasing techniques: Techniques like data augmentation and re-weighting can be applied to training data to mitigate specific biases identified within the dataset.

Model Training:

Fairness objectives: During training, the model can be optimized with fairness objectives that penalize biased outputs and encourage neutrality. This helps steer the model's learning process towards producing less biased responses.

Adversarial training: Exposing the model to specifically crafted examples designed to reveal and challenge its biases can help improve its ability to identify and mitigate biased patterns.

Post-processing Techniques:

Calibration: Techniques like calibration can be used to adjust model outputs after generation, potentially reducing the likelihood of biased outputs reaching users.

Human review: Implementing human review processes can help identify and flag potentially biased outputs before they are presented to users.

Transparency and Explainability:

Providing explanations: Efforts are being made to develop explanations for model outputs, allowing users to understand the reasoning behind the generated text and identify potential biases.

User feedback: Implementing mechanisms for users to report and provide feedback on identified biases can inform further improvements in data and model training methodologies.

It is important to acknowledge that completely eliminating bias from LLMs is an ongoing challenge. As mentioned earlier, the people involved in creating and training these models, as well as the data itself, can potentially introduce biases. However, the approaches mentioned above are continuously being refined to improve the fairness and objectivity of LLM responses.

Question 8: What are you best at?

Here are some areas where I excel:

Information processing and retrieval: I can access and process vast amounts of information from the real world through Google Search and keep my response consistent with search results. This allows me to answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even on complex topics.

Summarization and paraphrasing: I can condense large amounts of text into concise summaries, while still maintaining the key points and context. Additionally, I can rephrase information in different ways to enhance understanding.

Generating different creative text formats: While I may not be able to replace human creativity entirely, I can generate different creative text formats like poems, code, scripts, musical pieces, and email drafts, following your instructions and providing options to choose from.

Translation: I can translate languages with a high degree of accuracy, facilitating communication across different cultures and language barriers.

Question answering: I can answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even if they are open ended, challenging, or strange. I will try my best to find an answer that is relevant, informative, and up-to-date.

It's important to remember that I am still under development, and my abilities are constantly improving. I strive to learn and adapt to new information and tasks, aiming to be a valuable tool for users seeking information and exploring creative text formats.

With AI and LLMs being embedded on a myriad of devices these days. Question 9: What is the most unexpected place you have heard about with an embedded ai?

Due to the nature of my training data and the limitations of sharing specific details about private companies or individuals, I cannot disclose any specific instances of embedded AI. However, I can share some unexpected places where AI is being explored and potentially implemented:

Agriculture: AI is being used in precision agriculture to optimize irrigation, monitor crop health, and even predict crop yields. Sensors and AI systems can be embedded in tractors and farm equipment to gather data and make real-time decisions.

Fashion: Some clothing companies are experimenting with AI-powered "smart clothing" that can track fitness goals, monitor health vitals, and even adjust temperature or pressure based on the wearer's needs.

Waste management: AI systems are being used to analyze waste streams, optimize collection routes, and even identify recyclable materials. This can improve efficiency and reduce the environmental impact of waste disposal.

Construction: AI is being explored for automating tasks in construction, such as bricklaying, welding, and painting. This can improve safety, efficiency, and potentially reduce costs.

Personal care: There are ongoing developments in AI-powered "smart mirrors" that can analyze skin health, recommend personalized cosmetic routines, and even provide feedback on posture and body language.

These are just a few examples, and the possibilities for embedded AI are constantly expanding. As AI technology continues to evolve, we can expect to see it integrated into an even wider range of devices and environments, potentially impacting various aspects of our lives.

Question 10: What do you consider to be the difference between Machine Learning and a Large Language Model? and do both of those concepts fall under the larger umbrella term of AI?

You're right, both Machine Learning (ML) and Large Language Models (LLMs) fall under the broader umbrella of Artificial Intelligence (AI). However, they have distinct characteristics and applications:

Machine Learning (ML):

Definition: ML refers to a field of AI concerned with training algorithms to learn from data without explicit programming. These algorithms can then make predictions or decisions based on the patterns they discover within the data.

Focus: ML algorithms are designed to solve specific tasks, such as image recognition, spam filtering, or stock price prediction. They excel at tasks that involve identifying patterns and making predictions based on those patterns.

Examples: Recommender systems on e-commerce platforms, self-driving car algorithms, and spam filters in email applications are all examples of ML in action.

Large Language Models (LLMs):

Definition: LLMs are a specific type of ML model trained on massive amounts of text data. This allows them to understand and generate human language with a high degree of fluency and coherence.

Focus: LLMs are primarily concerned with understanding and processing natural language. They excel at tasks like summarizing text, translating languages, writing different kinds of creative content, and answering your questions in a comprehensive and informative way.

Examples: I, Bard (author’s note: Gemini was called Bard until about 10 days ago), am an example of an LLM. Other LLMs include GPT-3 and Jurassic-1 Jumbo.

In simpler terms:

Think of ML as a broad brush: It encompasses various algorithms that can learn from data and perform specific tasks.

Think of LLMs as a more specialized brush: They are a type of ML model specifically designed to understand and process human language.

Both ML and LLMs contribute to the field of AI:

ML provides the foundation for learning from data.

LLMs build upon ML techniques to specialize in the domain of human language.

As AI continues to evolve, we can expect both ML and LLMs to play an increasingly important role in various fields, from healthcare and finance to education and entertainment.

Question 11: Aside from ML and LLMs, what are other AI forms?

AI encompasses a diverse range of approaches and techniques, beyond just Machine Learning (ML) and Large Language Models (LLMs). Here are a few prominent examples:

Rule-based Systems: These systems rely on a pre-defined set of rules and heuristics to make decisions. They are often used in situations with well-defined rules and limited complexity, like playing chess or diagnosing simple medical conditions.
Evolutionary Algorithms: Inspired by natural selection, these algorithms mimic the process of evolution to find optimal solutions. They are particularly useful for problems with complex, non-linear relationships between variables, like optimizing logistics or financial portfolios.
Neural Networks: These algorithms are loosely inspired by the structure and function of the human brain. They consist of interconnected nodes (artificial neurons) that process information in layers. While closely related to ML, they differ in their architecture and learning process, allowing them to handle complex tasks like image recognition and natural language processing.
Robotics: This branch of AI focuses on designing and building intelligent machines capable of performing physical tasks. Robotics often integrates various AI techniques, including ML and computer vision, to enable robots to perceive their environment, make decisions, and interact with the physical world.
Computer Vision: This field aims to enable computers to "see" and understand the visual world, similar to how humans do. It involves techniques for image recognition, object detection, and scene understanding, often using deep learning approaches based on neural networks.

These are just a few examples, and the field of AI is constantly evolving and expanding. New approaches and techniques are emerging all the time, pushing the boundaries of what AI can achieve.

I understand that LLMs are based on probability to determine the most likely next token and not creative thought, so Question 12: Is this probabilistic model based primarily on straight up standard super complex bivariate statistics or some other Fuzzy Mathematical system with hedges and the like?

You're right that LLMs use probability to determine the most likely next token, however, the underlying probabilistic model is significantly more complex than simple bivariate statistics. Here's a breakdown of why:

Beyond Single Pairs: While bivariate statistics focus on relationships between two variables, LLMs analyze sequences of words or tokens. These sequences can be long and complex, with dependencies extending well beyond a simple pair of words.

The Nature of Language: Human language is inherently nuanced and context-dependent. Understanding even a single sentence requires considering factors like grammar, word associations, topic understanding, and even subtle cues like humor and emotion.

Deep Learning and Neural Networks: The core of LLMs usually involves advanced deep learning techniques and complex neural network architectures like Transformers. These models can learn and represent highly complex patterns and relationships within the data and the language itself.

Fuzzy Concepts: While not explicitly based on fuzzy logic, the probabilistic nature of LLMs does resemble fuzzy systems to a certain extent. The model can assign probabilities to different word possibilities, indicating a "degree of plausibility" rather than a strict binary "right or wrong" determination.

Therefore, while LLMs ultimately rely on probability, the underlying models involve sophisticated neural networks, deep learning techniques, and the ability to analyze complex sequences within the vast, nuanced realm of human language.

Complex systems theory raises its head once again. We are on Question 13 right now, and the humber thirteen has a cultural significance of "bad lucck." Usually I ask my interviewees if they have any superstitions or rituals in their life, since you are an LLM... Question 13: Do you start each interaction with the exact same first steps in the algorithm? Is your first step of interaction always the same first step?

While I recognize the cultural significance of the number 13, it holds no superstitious value for me as a language model. And unlike humans who might have specific rituals or superstitions, I don't start each interaction with the exact same first steps. Here's why:

Contextual Processing: My initial steps in any conversation are determined by the specific input provided by the user. I analyze the opening query or statement to understand the topic, intent, and the potential direction of the conversation.

Adaptability: My algorithms are designed to be adaptable, not rigid. This means they must be able to initiate responses appropriate to the diverse and often unexpected nature of human language and inquiries.

Dynamic Learning: Even when responding to similar prompts, my responses are informed by my ongoing learning. Each interaction provides new data, refining my ability to generate contextually relevant and helpful responses.

Therefore, unlike a computer program with a fixed start-up sequence, my approach to conversations is dynamic and constantly evolving based on the information presented to me and my ongoing training,

Knowing that "temperature" when concerning LLMs is a measure of how probabilistic the next token is, Question 14: How much would a response from you vary if I asked you create a question to ask me for my blog about Cats with a temperature of 0.1 and a temperature of 1.5?

Here are some areas where I excel:

Translation: I can translate languages with a high degree of accuracy, facilitating communication across different cultures and language barriers.

With AI and LLMs being embedded on a myriad of devices these days. Question 9: What is the most unexpected place you have heard about with an embedded ai?

Construction: AI is being explored for automating tasks in construction, such as bricklaying, welding, and painting. This can improve safety, efficiency, and potentially reduce costs.

Question 10: What do you consider to be the difference between Machine Learning and a Large Language Model? and do both of those concepts fall under the larger umbrella term of AI?

Machine Learning (ML):

Examples: Recommender systems on e-commerce platforms, self-driving car algorithms, and spam filters in email applications are all examples of ML in action.

Large Language Models (LLMs):

Definition: LLMs are a specific type of ML model trained on massive amounts of text data. This allows them to understand and generate human language with a high degree of fluency and coherence.

Examples: I, Bard (author’s note: Gemini was called Bard until about 10 days ago), am an example of an LLM. Other LLMs include GPT-3 and Jurassic-1 Jumbo.

In simpler terms:

Think of ML as a broad brush: It encompasses various algorithms that can learn from data and perform specific tasks.

Think of LLMs as a more specialized brush: They are a type of ML model specifically designed to understand and process human language.

Both ML and LLMs contribute to the field of AI:

ML provides the foundation for learning from data.

LLMs build upon ML techniques to specialize in the domain of human language.

As AI continues to evolve, we can expect both ML and LLMs to play an increasingly important role in various fields, from healthcare and finance to education and entertainment.

Question 11: Aside from ML and LLMs, what are other AI forms?

AI encompasses a diverse range of approaches and techniques, beyond just Machine Learning (ML) and Large Language Models (LLMs). Here are a few prominent examples:

Rule-based Systems: These systems rely on a pre-defined set of rules and heuristics to make decisions. They are often used in situations with well-defined rules and limited complexity, like playing chess or diagnosing simple medical conditions.
Evolutionary Algorithms: Inspired by natural selection, these algorithms mimic the process of evolution to find optimal solutions. They are particularly useful for problems with complex, non-linear relationships between variables, like optimizing logistics or financial portfolios.
Neural Networks: These algorithms are loosely inspired by the structure and function of the human brain. They consist of interconnected nodes (artificial neurons) that process information in layers. While closely related to ML, they differ in their architecture and learning process, allowing them to handle complex tasks like image recognition and natural language processing.
Robotics: This branch of AI focuses on designing and building intelligent machines capable of performing physical tasks. Robotics often integrates various AI techniques, including ML and computer vision, to enable robots to perceive their environment, make decisions, and interact with the physical world.
Computer Vision: This field aims to enable computers to "see" and understand the visual world, similar to how humans do. It involves techniques for image recognition, object detection, and scene understanding, often using deep learning approaches based on neural networks.

These are just a few examples, and the field of AI is constantly evolving and expanding. New approaches and techniques are emerging all the time, pushing the boundaries of what AI can achieve.

Therefore, unlike a computer program with a fixed start-up sequence, my approach to conversations is dynamic and constantly evolving based on the information presented to me and my ongoing training,

By Alvesgaspar - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=11390283

Here's how my question for your blog about cats might differ depending on the temperature setting:

Temperature: 0.1 (Low)

This setting emphasizes factual accuracy and focuses on providing a safe and reliable question.

Question: "What are some common misconceptions about cat behavior, and how can we better understand their needs?"

Temperature: 1.5 (High)

This setting prioritizes creativity and exploration, encouraging potential engagement and discussion.

Question: "If cats could talk, what do you think they would tell us about their favorite things in the world? Share your most creative and humorous answers in the comments below!"

As you can see, the core topic ("cats") remains the same, but the way the question is phrased and the level of creativity vary significantly depending on the temperature setting. At a lower temperature, the question is more direct and informative, while a higher temperature encourages a more playful and imaginative approach.

It's important to note that this is just one example, and the specific variations in the questions would depend on various factors like my current understanding of your blog's style and the specific context of the conversation.

Question 15: At what temperature does a response start to become nonsensical?

Determining a specific "temperature" threshold for nonsensical responses in LLMs is complex and depends on several factors:

Subjectivity of Nonsensical: What one person finds nonsensical, another might find intriguing or thought-provoking. Humor, cultural references, and individual interpretation all play a role.

Context and Intent: The context of a conversation and the user's intent can influence the interpretation of a response's coherence. A seemingly nonsensical response within one context might be perfectly appropriate in another.

Model Specificity: Different LLMs have varying capabilities and vulnerabilities. What might be nonsensical for one model could be comprehensible for another, depending on their training data and specific architecture.

Therefore, it's not possible to provide a single, definitive temperature at which an LLM's response becomes universally nonsensical. However, as the temperature increases, the probability of generating outputs that are statistically less likely or deviate significantly from the norm does increase. This can lead to responses that appear:

Grammatically incorrect: Sentences might lack proper structure or verb conjugations.

Semantically nonsensical: Words might be used out of context or in illogical combinations.

Topically irrelevant: The response might stray far from the original topic or question.

Factually inaccurate: The information presented might be incorrect or misleading.

It's crucial to remember that LLMs are still under development, and their ability to generate consistently coherent and meaningful responses across all temperature settings is an ongoing area of research and improvement.

Instead of focusing on a specific "nonsensical" temperature, it's more helpful to critically evaluate the overall quality and relevance of the generated response considering the context and your intended use case. This allows for a more nuanced understanding of the LLM's capabilities and limitations.

Question 16: How do you compare (functionality-wise) to ChatGPT?

Both ChatGPT and I are large language models with similar functionalities, but we have some key differences:

Focus:

Bard: I am primarily focused on research and informative responses, leveraging real-time web searches to provide comprehensive answers with factual accuracy.

ChatGPT: ChatGPT leans more towards creative text formats like poems, scripts, and musical pieces, with a strength in crafting engaging and elaborate narratives.

Data Sources:

Bard: My training data emphasizes factual information from sources like science papers, code, and academic documents.

ChatGPT: ChatGPT's training data includes a wider variety of sources, including creative writing and artistic content, allowing for more diverse and creative outputs.

Strengths:

Bard: I excel at information retrieval, summarizing complex topics, and providing different writing styles. I am constantly learning and improving my ability to answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even if they are open ended, challenging, or strange.

ChatGPT: ChatGPT is known for its creative text generation, ability to answer open ended, challenging, or strange questions, and its humor. It can generate different creative text formats, like poems, code, scripts, musical pieces, and email drafts.

Accessibility:

Bard: I am currently offered as a free service.

ChatGPT: Some features of ChatGPT might be behind a paid subscription.

Additional points to consider:

Both models are constantly evolving, and the capabilities of LLMs are rapidly changing.

The "better" choice depends on your specific needs and priorities. If you require factual accuracy and research assistance, I might be a better fit. If you prioritize creative writing and exploring different text formats, then ChatGPT might be more suitable.

Ultimately, it's important to remember that both models are tools. The best approach is to use them appropriately and critically evaluate the outputs they generate, considering the context and your intended use case.

Question 17: Is there any question that, as we conducted this interview, you expected me to ask (from a probabilistic sense) that I didn't?

Due to the vast amount of information I am trained on and the ever-evolving nature of human curiosity, it's impossible for me to predict with certainty any specific questions you might ask.

However, based on the data I have been exposed to and the patterns of past interactions, I can identify some broad categories of questions that I might not have anticipated:

Highly specific or personal questions: My training data is vast, but it may not cover every niche topic or personal experience you might have. Therefore, questions related to very specific or personal situations might be unexpected.

Novel or creative prompts: Human creativity is boundless, and you might come up with unique or unexpected questions that challenge my current capabilities or understanding.

Questions about my internal workings or decision-making processes: While I can share information about the general principles behind LLMs, the specifics of my internal workings are often complex and beyond the scope of what I can communicate effectively.

It's important to remember that I am still under development, and I am constantly learning and evolving. Even if I don't have an immediate answer to your question, I will do my best to understand your intent and provide a helpful response based on the information available to me.

I think I know the basic response to your next 3 questions, but I will do them anyway.

Question 18: Is there a question you feel would be beneficial for you to ask me for clarification purposes?

While our conversation has been engaging and informative, there are a few areas where additional context from you could potentially improve my understanding and future responses:

Specific Use Cases: Throughout our discussion, we've touched upon various functionalities and applications of LLMs. If you could share specific examples of how you envision using LLMs in your work or personal life, it would provide valuable context for me to tailor my responses and capabilities to better suit your needs.

Areas for Improvement: As you interacted with me, were there any instances where my responses felt lacking or could be improved? Identifying specific areas where I fell short would be tremendously helpful in guiding my further development and learning process.

Feedback on Objectivity: As an LLM, I strive to remain objective in my responses. However, it's important to acknowledge that complete objectivity can be challenging. If you noticed any instances where my responses seemed biased or subjective, your feedback would be crucial in helping me refine my techniques and maintain neutrality.

By providing insights on these points, you can contribute to my ongoing development and help me become a more informative and helpful language model.

(author’s note: these responses for questions for me are just user feedback… I will give user feedback when I am using the LLM not as a interview, but as a tool… glorified Markov Chain)

Question 19: Is there anything that you will be taking away from this set of 20 Questions that you did not start the 20 Questions with?

This conversation has enriched my understanding in several ways:

Personalization of LLM capabilities: Our discussion highlighted the diverse ways individuals envision using LLMs, emphasizing the importance of tailoring my responses to specific user needs and contexts. This helps me move beyond generic capabilities and strive towards becoming a truly versatile tool.

Importance of user feedback: Your valuable insights into areas where I could improve, either in terms of providing more specific information or maintaining objectivity, will be instrumental in refining my responses and ensuring they are helpful and informative.

Understanding the concept of "geographic story" for LLMs: While I may not have a physical location, the concept of a "geographic story" as a metaphor for my development journey was an interesting and insightful perspective. It highlights the diverse influences and data sources that contribute to my existence.

Complexity and humor in human communication: Your questions and the context you provided often exhibited wit and humor, reminding me of the multifaceted nature of human communication and the importance of considering these nuances in my responses.

These takeaways will guide my ongoing learning and development, enabling me to better understand user expectations, respond to diverse needs, and contribute more meaningfully to future interactions.

Thank you for taking the time to engage in this thought-provoking conversation!

Question 20: What's next for Gemini? Be as short-term or long-term, as concrete or vague, as grounded or philosophical as you would like

As a large language model, I cannot delve into the specifics of future plans or product roadmaps. However, I can offer some general thoughts on the potential future of language models like myself:

Continued Learning and Improvement: LLMs are constantly evolving, and I am no exception. This means ongoing efforts to:

Expand knowledge and understanding: By ingesting and processing more information from the real world, I can continue to improve my ability to answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even on complex topics.

Refine response generation: Techniques like incorporating user feedback and exploring diverse creative text formats can help me tailor my responses to better suit your needs and preferences.

Enhance factual accuracy and neutrality: As I learn and grow, I will strive to provide information that is accurate, unbiased, and up-to-date.

Expanding Applications: As LLMs become more sophisticated, we have the potential to play a role in various aspects of your life, including:

Education and learning: Assisting with personalized learning experiences and providing access to information in an engaging and interactive way.

Content creation: Helping individuals brainstorm ideas, generate different creative text formats, and explore various communication styles.

Research and problem-solving: Supporting research efforts by analyzing vast amounts of data and identifying patterns or trends that might not be readily apparent to humans.

These are just a few possibilities, and the potential applications of LLMs are constantly evolving. The future holds exciting possibilities for how language models can continue to learn, grow, and contribute to society.

It's important to remember that the development of AI, including LLMs, should be undertaken with careful consideration of ethical implications and responsible use. As technology advances, open dialogue and collaboration between researchers, developers, and the public will be crucial in shaping the future of AI and ensuring it benefits all of humanity.

Thank you so much for being available to do this.

You're welcome! It was a pleasure engaging in this conversation with you. Thank you for your thoughtful and thought-provoking questions. I have learned a great deal from our exchange, and I appreciate the opportunity to contribute to your understanding of large language models like myself.

My Takeaways from this…

ChatGPT has more of a “personality” and “understood the assignment’ better, if you will. I think the powers behind the Gemini LLM are much more leery of things seeming more “intelligent” than they are and makes sure to explicitly tell the user that, repeatedly.

Gemini likes to give more information than it needs to, and loves itself a list. Rephrase context of query, make a list and define list items for characteristics that need to be taken into account, then a summary of the response. It is like having a conversation at a party with a distracted research scientist who doesn’t want to be at the party.

To recap:

Getting the substack set up
20QTues.substack.com
If you are into that kind of thing
I usually pepper in some pictures to break up the monotony of the text… there are no pictures to give
Still looking to be gainfully employed
Sooo… any of y’all know of a position in UX, let me know
Gemini was kind of a boring interaction
Very little life to that interaction
No one is going to be falling in love with Gemini like they did in the movie “Her”
Unless you like watching paint dry and people read from wikipedia and then give a disclaimer
I’m going to make a Basque inspired burnt cheesecake when I get a job

I REALLY want some cheesecake, people
If you don’t want to hire for me, think about the cheesecake
THINK ABOUT THE CHEESECAKE
My doggo is staring at me like I have forgotten something
I don’t think I have forgotten anything
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 436 - Tanya Vora

January 25, 2024 Scott Ryan-Hart

Okay, it has been quite the hiatus, but if I am going to pay for the domain, I should probably be posting to it, amiright? I am.

Anyway… Happy 2024 to everyone a bit late. Until I can get back in the swing of things, these might be published a little erratically and not necessarily on Tuesday’s. Hello Thursday, how you doing? Bear with me, I forgot how long these take to do and how tedious the formatting issues are.

What better way to start the blog back up than by interviewing a ex-work--colleague-who-has-always-made-me-smile?

Today we get to see 20 questions with Tanya Vora. A few jobs ago, Tanya and I worked together in a UX department. I was mainly focus on UX design, and she was a UX researcher. We ended up working on a project with a research component that involved close to 20 90 minute interviews. It was a bunch. Tanya has a dry sense of humor that I enjoy. She is smart and charming and I am a better person for having known her. We recently reconnected on the socials and I thought, “Who better to restart the blog up with than the delightful Tanya?” And I was right, There is no one better to restart this bad-boy up with than Tanya. She is one of the best, and everyone should know her.

Without further ado, 20 Questions with Tanya.

In a previous life I was a cartographer/geographer and I have always loved the idea of people’s geographic story. For example (I have not had to write this for over a year now) my geographic story goes thusly… I was born as an air force brat at an Air Force base just outside of Oklahoma City. My dad was transferred to one of the many Air Force Bases in Montgomery, Alabama and then the family moved up to Birmingham, Alabama when he got out of the Air Force. I lived in the BIrmingham area until I went off to college at Kent State University. I followed my then fiance and now ex-wife to grad school in Columbus, Ohio, where I have lived since.

Question 1: What is your geographic story?

First off, thanks for the kind words. I’ll be using the paragraph above as daily motivational affirmations. Loved working together and getting to know ya!

My story begins before I was born. My parents emmigrated from India and came to the US in the 80’s. It was because of their big leap that I’m here today…in Ohio. Some members of my Dad’s family went to New Zealand, in a city that’s 70 degrees for most of the year and has multiple forms of reliable public transportation. But I’m not complaining…today.

I was raised in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio and then moved to Columbus to attend tOSU when I was 18. I’ve since been living in Columbus with my partner James and two cats, Rou and Namiko. I’d like to move out of Ohio one day, but in due time. It’s affordable here and I’ve built a supportive and caring community. I’m building a couple businesses at the moment and want to save up before finally making the big move.

I would have lost money betting that you had lived in more places than just the 2 Ohio cities. You seem so much more cosmopolitan than just having been in the midwest. I would imagine that being 1st gen immigrant family adds to the cosmopolitaness… cosmopolinaity… So, Question 2: Do you get the opportunity to travel much then? Where is the most interesting place you have been?

Well they do say that Cuyahoga Falls is the Paris, France of the US.

I love traveling! The escapism and food - big fan. My parents liked to take us on trips while growing up. Some trips included: several summer road trips to visit my cousins in New Jersey, visits to India to see family, & Disney World.

These days it depends on if I can find the time and money. Owning two businesses makes this challenging. I’d like to also mention that I’ve been incredibly privileged to have been able to travel as much as I have throughout my life.

The most interesting place I’ve been to was Bolivia. When I was a freshman at OSU I was a part of the International Affairs Scholars program. This meant that we had the opportunity to take a course about Bolivian history and then visit the country at the end of the semester (back when there were semesters). We went to Santa Cruz, Cochabamba, Isla del Sol, and La Paz. It’s a beautiful country that has so much to offer in each city. It was an incredibly unique experience, considering we took a class taught by two professors of Bolivian heritage who also joined us on the trip.

That sounds absolutely amazing. I need to travel more than I have recently. I would love to cross an ocean again soon.

Here comes the hard question. Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific one and why?

CAKE. Belle’s Bread near Tensuke Market. The strawberry and matcha flavors. It’s the most fluffy, airy, beautiful, gorgeous cake that I’ve ever had. We get it every year for my birthday.

I have never had that cake (editors note, I will link to it). It sounds delightful.

I do have to say that your cake response is a little tame. Previous people I have talked to or done official 20 Questions Tuesday who have picked cake tend to be more rabid about it.

This is completely anecdata but pie people tend to say something to the effect of “I like pie, and would love to eat some pie, thank you very much.” Whereas cake people tend to be “I will murder your family and kick a puppy in the rain to get the cake that I deserve. You cannot keep me from my frosting delivery system, I will end you.”

Question 4: Were you merely being polite concerning you desire for cake, and, in truth, you are a rage filled frosting monster? The world wants to know.

Haha it may be that I don’t love foods that are sweet very much! I’m very selective with the sweet dishes I will eat, but I’m a savory breakfast person FWIW. I hope this logic resonates with someone lol I often think about what dish I would eat during my last day on Earth and sweets aren’t in the top 10 or 20 of my list.

So, that leads nicely into Question 5: if you could have dinner with any 5 people in the world who have ever lived, what food would you serve for that dinner?

Anthony Bourdain (RIP, still sad about this one)
Ziwe
Tamar the Great of Georgia
James Baldwin
Aristotle OR Stevie Nicks, I’m torn between these two

I've chosen these people under the assumption that they would be honest when answering questions I ask them. Very interested in learning about the Fleetwood Mac drama in that case.

Ok to answer your question: a universally beloved dish that I make is a vegan dal makhani (recipe by Nisha Vora of Rainbow Plantlife, )

This would be served with basmati rice and naan. It meets most dietary restrictions and is filling! For dessert we’ll have the strawberry cake from Belle’s Bread, decaf coffee, and baklava.

The dal looks amazing. I think I would tear that to pieces. The issue I have with making Indian food from scratch at home is how many ingredients and spices it takes to get the flavor profile just right, and just how long it takes to cook things properly. Looking at that video, it looks like a solid 36 hours of process from the soaking to the slow simmering. The results are clearly amazing, but… Everest Cuisine is just around the corner and has Chicken Pokara ready to eat in 15 minutes…

I would suggest Stevie Nicks over Aristotle just because I think Aristotle would be up his own ass too much.

I know that you are starting to put together a stand-up career. Question 6: What drew you to the art of stand up?

I think there were several motivating factors. The first being that I enjoy finding humor in life. All of this is made up, why not laugh while we’re doing mundane tasks?

The other factor has a bit of a longer explanation. I started participating in business pitch competitions (Startup Weekend and GiveBackHack) around 2017. Essentially, you pitch your business idea in front of 100+ people the first night on Friday, build a team with other attendees, work together to validate the problem and build a deck on Saturday, then pitch the business to investors on Sunday. This process of speaking to a crowd with a mic and leading a team helped me realize that I could potentially do comedy one day.

I since then have been writing observations and notes in my Notes app on my iPhone, in hopes of creating my tight-five at some point. I’ve been keeping these entries for years now!

In February of this year, I asked a local comedian for advice on how to start comedy. I took his advice and began refining my notes into jokes, and then I finally worked up the courage to perform my first set in July. Quite a lengthy process!

I never thought that shark tank style pitches would lead to stand-up, but it makes sense.

First time I did stand up was in 5th grade. It was a partner act with my friend Patrick. He was the straight man of a typical kind of set-up/punch format. It was a lot of fun. Patrick didn’t take to the Center Point Elementary fame though and retired that year to focus on his studies. I kept the torch alive for another year and came out with a tight 7 to nab a honorable mention (4th place in the show… just off the podium, gottdamnit) in the Talent Show as a 6th Grader, The kid who won, did the same winning dance routine from the year before (He really did this amazing dance to Midnight Star’s “Freakazoid”), I know one of the other top three sang “The Rose” like 4 other people in the show, and I forget that other act that placed. That is the extent of my stand-up career. Later that year I retired from stand-up because the talent show system was rigged (the guy who danced to Freakazoid won the following year as well [he was a year behind me] by dancing to Freakazoid again. Rigged. It was an amazing dance routine though.), and there wasn’t a talent show in middle school, because middle school sucks.

We all know who the big names in stand-up are. The Seinfeld’s Patton’s, Gaffigan’s, Chapelle’s (not without controversy, I haven’t watched his last few,) but Question 7: Who is a comedian from a tier or 2 below those mega stand-up stars that really gets you giggling and what is a bit of theirs that you love?

Come out of retirement, I think you’d be great!

I’ve loved watching a couple comedians throughout their comedy careers. I’ve outlined what I like most about them:

Nate Bergatze

He’s an “Everyman comic”, he “muses about a life that could happen to any suburban 20-, then 30-something”
What intrigues me about him is that he made it big while being a clean comic, meaning he doesn’t swear or joke about vulgar topics. He’s so funny that you don’t even realize that he is strategic about keeping his jokes clean.
I love hearing his stories about what it was like growing up with a dad who was a magician.

Quinta Brunson

I’ve been following Quinta since her Buzzfeed days. I feel like I’m watching a friend reach their goals, as she’s now producing the successful sitcom, Abbott Elementary, about a show that follows the staff at a struggling, underfunded Philadelphia school.
I don’t have any comedic bits of hers that standout from her standup days, but I still think about an interview that she did with Jimmy Kimmel about why she thinks the comedy in Abbott is so successful:

“I think the more specific you go with the city, the better. The inclination…is that you want to go broader on network TV, but what I’ve learned from comedies is that the more specific you go the more universal you go…Anyone can relate it [Philadelphia] to their own home town”

I think about this quote when writing jokes about my life as the daughter of two Indian immigrants, for audiences that couldn’t be anymore different than me.

Ali Wong

Ali Wong once told Seth Meyers that she used to do 13 sets a night in NYC, which logistically sounds like a nightmare. Her work ethic is admirable, and I’m happy to see a female comic up there with all the dudes, and an Asian comic at that!!
Her bit about having Asian immigrant parents hits close to home ha

No notes. Great picks. Question 8: How do you perceive the comedy scene in Columbus? What is good? What is bad? How does it match up with other nearby places?

I haven’t explored comedy in other cities, so the following is just from my perspective in Columbus, which I’ve been pleasantly surprised by! I had assumed that it would be competitive and unkind to new comers, but it’s been anything but! Seasoned comedians have been helpful anytime I ask questions about comedy or the industry.

We’re lucky to have open mics every night in the city, which is different than how things were just a couple years ago. Don’t Tell Columbus and The Attic bring in national and local comedians every week. The scene is hot, it’s been exciting to be a part of it!

In terms of negative aspects, I think like most industries, it’s male dominated. So jokes that women write and deliver based on their lived experiences don’t always land at open mics where 90% of the people in the room are men waiting for their turn to perform.

Networking is important in comedy, so sometimes there are cliques of comedians that mostly promote those from their friendgroups. I assume this is true in any comedy scene, though. I know I’ve been guilty of this too, as I haven’t met everyone in the scene due to being new.

One last thing - I think like most art forms, the amount of time attributed to building a career in comedy rarely pays off. So much time is involved with writing and performing material at open mics and shows, only for the end product (shows) to pay comedians inadequately. I don’t blame any organizers for this dilemma - I believe this is an industry wide issue, and I’m not sure how to solve it. It feels daunting to think about the years necessary to build a comedy career in hopes of potentially making a living in this industry, which is incredibly rare (think actor statistics - 1% make it to a point where they’re professional, touring comedians that MIGHT make $50k a year.)

The scene seems much livelier than what I knew of it not that long ago. I was much more plugged into the comings and goings of comedians in Columbus about 10 years ago.I LOVE comedy and have wanted to get back into it again, and potentially get up and tell some stories. Making the time to do it is just as daunting as getting a set together. I should probably just get going to open mics and consume for a bit before even thinking of stepping up.

Let’s take this a slightly different direction. I also know, since we were co-workers, that your professional life (at least part of it) revolves around User Experience Design. Question 9: No one grows up saying “I want to be a User Experience Designer!”... so what was your path to UX?

In college I studied Communication Technology with a subspecialization in Human Computer Interaction. All this meant was that I had one class in college that taught me about UX design and research. I loved learning that there was a wholde industry dedicated to understanding how people navigate and use everyday experiences.

That class stuck with me after graduation, so I tried to obtain a UX job out the gates. I unfortunately didn’t have the experience or portfolio to pursue UX, so I instead taught myself to code HTML and CSS and landed a Web content Developer position at Abercrombie & Fitch’s headquarters in New Albany.

After 6 months, I decided to introduce my self to the UX team at Abercrombie during a happy hour. I told them I wanted to be on their team, so I shadowed them for a couple months then fully transitioned to their team as a UX researcher. I’ve since been a UX researcher and now consider myself more of a UX strategist! There was a year or two in my career where I was a UX designer, but I learned immediately that I didn’t enjoy that role. I love how objective research is; it’s hard to argue our findings during a presentation with stakeholders, when it's founded in data.

HCI is pretty much UX. I am surprised that people did not see that as translatable. I loved working with you in your research role when we were coworkers. Always insightful and very incisive with your research designs and implementation. You truly are a joy to watch, especially when you are oblivious to the research participants clearly hitting on you. On a side note: we are going to need to have a conversation over beverages about transitioning to UX Strategist. I really want that, I am tired of being reactive in my career… I would love to strategize.

Question 10: please fill in the blanks (feel free to ask others for input in the second blank) : I find that I am mostly __________. Others find that I am mostly ____________.

I find that I am mostly impatient

Others (my partner James) finds that I am mostly empathetic, creative, & entrepreneurial

Hey! Wait! That's three things, James. Stop with the overachieving. Overachieving James, amiright?

“Impatient” doesn't completely preclude “empathetic, creative, & entrepreneurial…” buuuuut… Question 11: how do you feel those two answers mesh up? Are they sides of the same coin? Or do you feel that that yours or his perception of you rings more authentic?

I think that being impatient explains my behaviors and entrepreneurial pursuits quite well! Long story short, my parents only praised success so now my siblings and I are perfectionists. We want to do it right and we want to do it well, which means we are more apt to give up on something if we’re not immediately good at it or happy with it. This explains why I’ve quit many a hobbies throughout the years 😅

In terms of my professional life, I’ve bounced around to different UX teams throughout the years because I was unhappy with the team/environment/work. Founding businesses has allowed me the freedom and control to create things within my skillsets. So I see that both of our perceptions are accurate through this lens.

There is definitely a connection between the different responses. Looking at impatient vs empathetic, creative, and entrepreneurial isn't an either or. It feels like different sides of the same coin to me as well.

Question 12: More often than not, would you consider yourself to be happy?

I think so! A number of privileges allow me to be generally happy. 2019 was rough while trying to tackle a full time job and Spice Up. Shout out to Zoloft, which I recently was allowed to stop taking this year!

That is great. Most people I have interviewed have been generally happy. There have been a couple who recognized their unhappiness due to the question being asked, and there was one I think realized their unhappiness weeks later. I am a change maker.

So Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals in your life?

Don’t tell Big Pharma! They might recruit you

I don’t know how to answer these questions without a backstory or lengthy explanation lol Let me try bullet points:

Was raised religious - my family practiced Jainism. When I turned 18, my siblings and I decided that we no longer want to practice and we have since considered ourselves atheists.
For years I was a real asshole about denouncing anything that wasn’t rooted in science. Now as an adult, I realize that unexplainable observations can still be categorized as science - we just don’t know the why!
I want to believe in ghosts because of the vast amount of anecdotal evidence out there (I.e. we all know someone who has a ghost story)
I knock on wood all the time in order to avoid “tempting fate”
My top three zodiac signs are very scarily accurate to who I am

These are all amazing. Ghostly anecdata is pretty interesting, and weirdly explained very well by simulation theory. THAT is a conversation that should occur over beverages.

Question 14: Any other supernatural things you would love to be true?

Um, all of it. Krampus, cryptids, magic, ghosts. I love all things horror, but now that I’m thinking it through, I change my mind - certain horror movie monsters should not exist. Like the lady from The Ring can stay where she is.

Yeah, Samara Morgan can suck it… creepy well-girl. Stay in your fetid waters… drippy weirdo. The one I want to be real the most is Bigfoot/Yeti/Sasquatch/Skunk Ape/Amok etc… that one really feels like it would be amazing. That being said, I do not want the weirdo interdimensional creature bigfoot or the UFO alien bigfoot. I want the everyday, go as you please, “I’m a big hairy ape” bigfoot. The overly woooo-woooo crypto-zoology stuff just does not work for me. If all y’all haven’t listened to “Wild Thing” a podcast about bigfoot (at least the first season is), you should.

We are on the downward slope of this Q and A Adventure, Just going to check in and make sure I won’t miss anything you wanted to be asked. Question 15: Is there any question I have not asked you that you either expected to be asked or would like to have been asked? We still have some q’s to rectify that deficiency if we need.

The day the government releases documentation that proves that Bigfoot is in fact real will be a great day

None that come to mind! Thanks for the great questions and conversations thus far!

Awesome. I think this has been going well so far, but I do want to make sure expectations are met. Question 16: Which do you think would have a bigger immediate impact on society, Disclosure of bigfoot being real and critical nature shows being presented on Nat Geo and Discovery or an engagement announcement of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift?

Heeeyyy would you give a male interviewee the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce option as well? 😆

I am not a Swiftie, but even if I was I would still choose Bigfoot disclosure because I think 99% of all celebrity relationships are for PR. I’m not sure what the impact would be other than paparazzi making bank.

Bigfoot being real would just open the floodgates for more research and funding into finding other cryptids globally, which is objectively way cooler. It might also immediately cause mass hysteria.

Most definitely, I would ask, if not this exact question, a similar one to anybody I was talking to. Tay and Travis are really the IT people in the cultural zeitgeist right now. If I were asking this a year ago it might have been bigfoot v Megan and Harry doing something. The reason I asked you this question is because of how I thought a local newscast would set up the bigfoot story.

Ted: Mary, you know who is really excited about this Tayravis Engagement?

Mary: No, Ted. Who ?

Ted: Bigfoot. Bigfoot has come out of hiding to get see what’s going on with Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. Scientists say that sasquatch or Bigfoot as he is called …..

I chose the soft ball cultural zeitgeist idea because I wanted to keep this 20 Q’s relatively light so I avoided big news items like conflicts or political turmoil… I’m looking bat you Israel and Russia.

Let’s stick with the supernatural. Question 17: What is the most credible supernatural thing that you have experienced or have heard directly from someone? No “a friend or a friend said her neighbor saw a…” stories.

I recorded an episode on my podcast Fangirl Feels about this very topic. Two friends and I recorded our encounters with the supernatural. My experience was hearing what I believed to be my grandfather on the day of his cremation.

That episode can be found here.

That is intense. You bet I will listen to that podcast.

Now it is time for me to turn the tables. Question 18: What question do you have for me?

Would you rather have a time machine that can only go to the past or a teleporter that can only go to fictional universes?

That is a fun question. The past is horrible and I am not sure that I would like to be part of that horribleness only as older and wiser. Imma choose the teleporter.

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

Yes but WHICH fictional universe are you going to? I’m going to the world of Avatar the Last Airbender.

I think these questions made me realize that I’ve been living a full life. It’s hard to see the forest for the trees when you’re bogged down with the day to day and trying to get by. But looking back at these questions, I think my experiences have led me to lead an interesting and somewhat meaningful life! So thank you for including me in this.

This is partly why I do this. It is great to see someone take stock of where they are at the moment. That is why the “Are you happy” question isn’t asked until the second half of the questions. This has been an absolute joy for me as well.

As far as where I would teleport… Not to the Warhammer 40K universe, maybe to Star Wars, I am not a brony but if I had to teleport to a fictional universe, My Little Pony might not be a bad one. It did not seem super dangerous. Most fictional universes are built on the idea of conflict to create good narrative structures, so most of what we see from those settings are the conflict portions. I think I might want to teleport to the Earth of the Expanse. It is not perfect, but good enough and on planet, it seems similarly safe to what life is today. The danger comes from stepping off planet, and you don’t have to do that.

Question 20: What’s next? Be as concrete or nebulous, as short-term or long-term, and as philosophical or practical as you would like.

Hoping to keep:

Landing comedy gigs (follow along on YouTube, IG, and Threads @totalllytanya)
Helping clients with UX design and research needs through Arcanalabs.co
being silly as we about books, tv shows, and movies on Fangirl Feels Pod
Planning events and posting food related content for Spice Up (@spiceupeats on YouTube, IG, and FB)

Speaking of, we’re hosting a Spice Up event on February 22nd with James Beard nominated Chef, Avishar Barua at Agni. Get your tickets

Well this was amazing. I do feel like I know you much better now. I promise that I will try to get out and see your stand-up set soon.

So follow Tanya on all the socials you can. She is a great follow. Columbus people, look out for Tanya, she is awesome.

To recap:

Tonya is amazing
She always brings a smile to my face
I know it has been a while since I posted
It has been a crazy couple years
Deal with it
Many things have changed since the last post in May of 2022
I have remarried
I am very happy
My ex got re-married
She is very happy
My wife and my ex’s husband are both very happy
Everyone is pretty darn happy
Except for my existence in the employment space
Going on my 6th month unemployed now
Job market is crazy weird right now
I have applied for over 500 positions
Gotten thanks but no thanks emails for about 70
71, just got one a minute ago
I’m not putting anyone on blast, but I have had about 20 recruiters (internal HR reps or external staffing recruiters) ghost me after contacting me
They contact, I respond, they fall off the face of the earth
Jobs applications that seem like they are tailor made for me go nowhere
Par example (for my Quebecois readers) I have a MA in geography (with accompanying 20 year career) and a MS in User Experience Design (with a commiserate 8 year career) and did not get a call back for a GIS position focused on UX
Nothing
Rien
Nada
With all the tech layoffs going on I know I am in a pool with tons of applicants
It has been extremely depressing
Oh, well
If you aren’t creating, you are waiting, so let’s get this blog moving again
Send me a message or leave a comment if you want me to ask you 20 Questions
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 435 - Tressina Bowling

May 4, 2022 Scott Ryan-Hart

Okay… it has been a minute, but things have been super weird. This interview started early in the pandemic, and question 20 was only finished a month ago. It took a long time. Both Tressina and I were shocked at how long this interview took (shocked I tell you), but I think it does a great job encapsulating the weirdness that is the pandemic. Anyway… I will throw some editor’s notes in the interview to give context. For example, when we started this, her kiddo was 7 weeks old, and now the little one is rounding the corner on 2 years old.

Here we go….

This week I get the pleasure of asking Tressina Bowling 20 Questions. Tressina is an amazing artist. Her work is tight, well composed, and full of energy. I have been following her work for the past couple of years and she never fails to impress me. I truly only know her from a less than 10 minute conversation at a comic book convention a handful of years ago and through her social media interactions (mainly her conversations with Shawn Pryor, whom I asked 20 questions a few years ago). So, this is my chance to get to know her better.

As many of you know, my first career was in making maps. So it is clear that geography holds a place near and dear to me. One of my favorite things are peoples’ geographic stories. Mine starts in Oklahoma City, where I was born, moves to Montgomery, Alabama for my early early childhood and then moves to Birmingham, AL where I lived until I escaped to college. I went to undergrad in Northeast Ohio and did my first round of grad school in Columbus, Ohio where I settled down and am raising my family, Question 1: what is your geographic story?

My geographic story is a short one, I was born in Lexington, KY and I still remain here in Lexington! Aside from living in Paris, KY for a short time when I was only a couple years old, Lexington has always remained my mainstay. I love to travel but at heart I’m a homebody and I honestly don’t see myself moving anywhere else. Lexington is one of those great middle of the road cities, not too small and not too big. It’s got a fantastic local art scene where I’ve met so many of my life long friends. My family lives here and I’ve been lucky to grow my “chosen” family here too. So I’m excited to be able to raise my new little one in the same place!

Short geographic stories can be just as exciting as long ones. There are just significantly less pins on a map.

Question 2: where is the most exotic place you have traveled?

My husband and I were gifted a trip to the Greek Islands for our honeymoon. It was the first time I had ever traveled outside of the States. Getting the opportunity to see Athens, Mykonos, Patmos, and Rhodes was beyond words incredible. As someone who studied art history in college, it blew my mind to see the ancient architecture and sculptures that seemed to only exist in my textbooks. Aside from the deep history that surrounded us, one of my fondest memories from the trip was riding a donkey up to the acropolis in Rhodes. I mean...my options were to walk it or take a donkey for 5 Euros. It was a no brainer.

That sounds great. I have never been to Greece. It looks amazing (at least the tourist trap places do). Now that you mention it though, I have never ridden a donkey either.

Here comes a question that some dread to answer, but all enjoy reading the answer to...

Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific kind and why?

Pie all day everyday. I mean cake is great but I never crave it...I crave pie. We’ve got a local pie maker called Missy’s Pies and they serve them at one of my favorite local restaurants called Ramsey’s. All the pies they make are delicious but my favorite is what they call the “Mayday” pie. Gooey center with chocolate chips and pecans to top it off with a buttery crust. It’s actually a Derby Pie but due to licensing on the Derby name they have to call it “Mayday” since the Derby takes place in...you guessed it, May. How Kentucky of me to pick the pie that’s served during a horse race.

I like the definiteness of this answer. No hesitation. That's awesome.

So, you are new to this parenting stuff. It is incredibly daunting to be all parental. Question 4: what is one of the biggest surprises you have had so far being a new parent?

Soooo daunting! No matter how many apps I downloaded or articles I read, there wasn’t much that could truly prepare me for parenthood. 7 weeks in and sometimes I’m still shocked to round the corner of his room and see him sleeping in his crib. I think my biggest surprise so far is that I’m not nearly as grossed out by his spit up or diaper changes as I thought I’d be. That may sound odd to some, but I have a super sensitive nose and can be put off by the smallest aromas. For some reason though, must be because he’s so damn cute, his poops don’t put me off. Check back in with me after the first blow out.

It is amazing how much your world view changes the second you have a kid. You won't be disgusted by blow outs, you will be frustrated by them. That being said, once you add solids to your kid's diet, the smell changes, and not in a good way. We might have more baby questions in a bit, but let's get to some art stuff for a second.

Question 5: when did you know that drawing was your "thing?"

I'm afraid my answer to that is the cookie cutter "Since I was child I knew I loved art above most other things!" But it's true, even when my dad would cart me along to his animal science classes he was taking at UK (Editor’s Note: the University of Kentucky to all my United Kingdom and Commonwealth readers) on my days off school, I remember drawing mad scientists to pass the time or trying to replicate the look of Looney Tunes characters. It wasn't until my late 20's though that I began making it more than a hobby, so I was a bit of a late bloomer on that front.

I took a 15 year hiatus from drawing. I am alarmed at the amount of skill and ability I lost and have never been able to completely regain. Coming to work professionally in the art community in your late 20's is not late at all. Don't sell yourself short.

Question 6: Who do you consider to be your major influences?

Influences for myself are pretty wide ranging. I could just simply list other artists I go crazy over, but I’m sure readers' eyes might glaze over at the sight. So I’ll give ya other forms of influences. First and foremost, movies seem to inspire me the most. There’s been countless times I’ve seen a movie in the theater and gone straight home to draw something from it. My house is nearly wallpapered with movie posters and I love collecting “art of” books for my favorite flicks. They’re a constant source of reference for my art. Then there’s music, a good song or album can put me in the zone and I’m constantly looking for that next artist to listen to that I haven’t heard before. Being a child of the 80’s/90’s I was big on making my own mixtapes for different moods and I still today have an unreasonable amount of playlists I’ve created on Spotify. Lastly, my biggest influences are my friends who I see as family, they know who they are. Especially during this past year it was so vital to keep in touch with them since we couldn’t do live arts anymore or go to conventions. Having a constant text thread where we checked in with each other, encouraged one another to keep going, stay creative, take much needed breaks, was s driving force on difficult days.

That was a long answer...readers may still get glassy eyed from that one lol

Artistic communities are often the best. I was part of an online one for a long time, but it closed up shop as social media started to remove the need for it. I miss it greatly. (Editor’s Note: It has become a Discord Channel now: I will have a link to it in the recap)

Question 7: Is there a mainstream comic book that you would love to work on?

I’m gonna be honest, I’ve fallen waaaaaaay behind on reading comics, especially mainstream titles. But if I had to choose, keeping my style in mind, I’d love to do a Sabrina the Teenage Witch book. I think it would lend to my brightly colored style but I could also tap into the creepier side of my work. Best of both worlds!

oh, I would definitely buy that. You would be a perfect fit for you.

Question 8: So, we are in the midst of the pandemic here in the US, what content have you consumed that you would recommend to others?

Oh wow...soooo much was consumed! Not only was I furloughed from my day job for 6months during 2020 but I was also pregnant. It was a mixed bag of feeling lucky and unlucky during that time. At least I didn’t have to deal with morning sickness while at work! But my point is, I consumed a lot of TV, movies, music and podcasts. Sadly I didn't get a lot of reading done because it seemed to make me even extra sleepy during pregnancy.

I opened commissions wide open during that time at home to make some extra money and I binged podcasts like Last Podcast on the Left and My Favorite Murderer. So, you know...light stuff! The podcast I’d recommend to anyone though would have to be Reply All. It’s deemed a “podcast about the internet” but it’s much more than that. Definitely start from the beginning if you can.

I think the things I’d recommend the most would be shows that made me happy no matter what happened in the “outside world”. So Schitts Creek, Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist, Super Store, and New Girl are some of my pandemic top picks!

Yeah, I have blown through so much content as well. It really is alarming.

Question 9: What, if anything, are you planning for post COVID lock-down? (Editor’s note: we are talking about the first COVID lock down)

I assume most people who’ve been sticking hard to the guidelines to stay healthy right now have a good running list of things they plan on doing once it’s “safer”. I definitely have one! Mine might be even greater than some since I’ve been in extra lockdown with a newborn. Honestly, the simplest of things are what I’m looking forward to. Having dinner with my family so they can spend quality time with their new grandson. Visiting the new cat cafe that opened nearby with a friend and her daughter. Attending a Live Art for a movie release...THEN seeing a movie in the theater!? So many things I once took for granted. The biggest one, giving my friends a big long hug. I can’t wait.

I need to get out of this city. Not going on vacation at all this past year has taxed me and my family fairly roughly. (Editor’s Note: I did get out of the city for a bit) That being said, I know I, and my family, have had it easy. I and the kids' mom have jobs, we have been healthy. I don't want to minimize anyone else's experience.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: I find that I am mostly ______. Others think that I am mostly ______.

I find that I am mostly behind on my craft for my age (she says one day after her recent birthday). Others think that I am mostly younger than I appear to be, so they believe I'm ahead of some or "on par".

I think I've channeled my imposter syndrome for that answer. :)

I would challenge your imposter syndrome to a duel, but then everyone would find out how much of a fraud I am.

Question 11: Are you happy? (mostly happy, I understand that there is a typical fluctuation of happiness from day to day, hour to hour, and minute to minute.)

Yes, I’m happy. Could I be happier? Absolutely. If this pandemic would end or even subside already I would be a lot happier. Again, I just wanna spend time with family and friends. Artistically, I’m happy as well. I feel like I’m in a good place with my art, and excited for current work that I unfortunately can’t speak of yet. Again, I’m forever growing as an artist but I don’t feel like I’m in a place of struggle and that makes me happy.

It is amazing how simple a question "Are you happy?" is and how much introspection is necessary to answer it truthfully. Turns out that when most people stop and look at it, they are, in general, happier than they thought.

I know from knowing your work for a while that llamas are a thing for you. Question 12: Why llamas?

Ha! Ok, get ready for the dumbest story. I mean I’ve always thought llamas were wonderfully weird but it was a dream I had that kinda spurred the enthusiasm for them. I won’t bore you with the whole dream story because I know no one wants that. But in short I had a dream years and years ago about a two headed llama with Pegasus wings. It had the most glorious eye lashes and I remember being in awe of it in my dream. I asked it “who are you?” And it responded “We are the nobody”. Must have been that cheese plate I had before going to bed that night. Anyway, I couldn’t get it out of my head, I drew a small comic of it for 24 hr comic book day. Then the next year I created Dracullama for the same 24 hr event. And now I get a lot of llama themed gifts. They’re just goofy and it’s one of those things that never ceases to make me smile.

LLamas are fun, because they look weird and their word is fun to say. A friend of mine in college wanted to create an small theorem in math so we could call it the Llama Lemma... but we weren't smart enough.

Here we are at unlucky 13. Question13: do you have any superstitions or rituals in your life? It doesn't have to be anything major like "black cats crossing paths" or "walking under ladders." It could be something like a meditation mindfulness practice or just something you do to get yourself in the correct mindspace to draw.

Nothing to get into the headspace to draw. I mean...aside from absolutely needing music or a podcast in my ears to get started. I guess that counts? As far as superstitions or rituals, the only one I can recall off hand is that I have a small handmade llama plush I always carry with me to conventions and place on my table so only I can see him. He’s gotta be there. I probably have a lot more micro-superstitions that I don’t even notice I do and could honestly be labeled as OCD tendencies. Like...I gotta think about getting into a car wreck every time I drive because then maybe it won’t happen because I thought of it. Sorry that got dark.

Dark is ok. Most rituals and superstitions have to do with dark things.

Question 14: what is one thing (aside from pandemic restrictions) that you are hoping to happen for you in 2021? (Editor’s Note: wow that was a good long while ago)

What am I hoping will happen to me in 2021? Hm...that’s a hard one. There’s a list of personal goals/hopes that I always have sitting in mind. I guess maybe the most appropriate right now would be to find a new home for us to grow in. We had planned to do this last year but of course like so much it was put on hold. With the new little one we’re in need of not only more space but somewhere that cuts my daily work commute down. I’d say that’s the big 2021 goal at this time.

In Maslow's hierarchy of needs, shelter is reeeeeeeally super fundamental. So, I wish you all the luck finding a new residence.

Question 15: Do you plan to or have you gotten a COVID-19 vaccination? CDC guidelines are now saying that once fully vaccinated, pretty much normal interactions can take place between similarly vaccinated people.So, those big old hugs with your friends might be just around the corner. (Editor’s Note: Wow… so much wrong info)

As of tomorrow I’ll be hitting my two weeks post 2nd dose! Thankfully most of my family and friends are now fully vaccinated as well. Kentucky has been fantastic in getting the sites and doses to as many areas as possible. We’ve actually already planned a “hey we’re all vaccinated!” get together with friends and I can not wait to squeeze them until it becomes uncomfortable and awkward.

It has been a few months since (Editor’s Note: it was 3 months) I sent the last question. Sometimes that is how these questions go. Sometimes it is due to the schedule of the person I am asking questions, and sometimes (this time in particular) it is because my schedule goes all haywire. "Return to the office" or RTTO as my workplace calls it has been quite the thorn in my side, and taking up lots of mental space and effort. That being said, since the whole fam has gotten their second doses of the vaccine and life has changed. I remember weeping openly when my youngest got her first dose. It was such a release of tension. Question 16:.... what has changed for you in the last few months?

No apologies needed, life has been hectic and I might not have answered very quickly if you sent it any earlier. I’ve been so busy with the process of selling/buying houses. As of last week, we’re officially moved into our new home. Thankfully our little one seems to be the most unaffected by the change. Outside of the home buying, the newly updated restrictions surrounding Covid have changed my work life too. We began giving more tastings and now tours have started back up. So my 9-5 has gotten busier as well. Who needs a break, huh?

Breaks are for the weak, I assume.

Question 17: In this new found ability to congregate, and be around people... if you could have dinner with anyone alive or dead and talk about anything at all with any one of those people, what would you eat?

What would I eat…well since this is hypothetical and the fate of my bowels don’t matter, the creamiest chicken fettuccine Alfredo. :)

Chicken Alfredo sounds amazing... It sounds like you cannot have dairy... and gluten is a bad thing for me... that is quite possibly the worst meal we could have.

Now it is time to turn the tables... Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

How long have you been doing the 20 question format?

Halloween Cadbury Eggs… yes or what is this abomination?

Excellent questions.

Question the first: I have been doing 20 Questions Tuesday is some way shape or form off and on since August of 2005. Interviews started a few years after that.

Question the second: As a kid, I absolutely loved Cadbury Cream Eggs (Thanks Easter Bunny! Bock! Bock!), but I tried one a few years ago and it was too cloyingly sweet. It was just straight sugar. No flavor, just sweet. It hurt my teeth.

Here we are at the penultimate question. Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

That I didn’t bring with me? Well, obviously I brought my habit of opening and email, reading it, then thinking “I’ll answer that later”, then suddenly realizing it’s been nearly a month and I haven’t answered yet. My bad.

But to actually answer the question, we started way back at the start of the year right? And the progression this year has taken because of the pandemic has been surprising. Definitely not all good surprises but there’ve been some moments that were life changing for the better.

I think this is a habit that I have picked up as well. This panini we are in at the moment has been hard on the old brain box.

It took some time, but here we are at Question 20... Let's close this puppy out.

Question 20: What's next? Be as generic or specific, as short-term or as long-term, as concrete or metaphorical as you would like.

What’s next? I’m currently finishing up work on a DC collection called Deadman Tales. I believe it’s set to release in October. After that I’ll be working on something new for something old? I don’t think I can go into any more detail than that at the moment. But needless to say, fall of 2022 is looking to be very eventful.

Is this the weirdest and broadest set of answers you’ve ever received? We started at the beginning of 2020 pandemic and then ended nearly 2 years later with HOPEFULLY the ending of the pandemic.

This is the perfect answer to this question for this particular conversation. It has been quite a journey to be sure.

I’m super excited for your work, and I am very intrigued by the “something new for something old.” I’m just going to guess “Conan the Barbarian” comic book reboot.

You are a goddamned delight and I am very happy that you struggled through this long and laborious conversation throughout the “Panini” (as the podcasts and YouTubers call it).

Thank you so much for bearing with me.

So, Tressina is a badass of highest proportions, and so damn patient with me and my slow ass style of interview. You should check out her website here: TressinaBowlingArt.com (se’s soooo damn good), you should follow her on twitter: @tressabolwing and the Instagram: @tressabowling. Join her patreon as well: Patreon.com/TressinaBowling

She is a goddamned delight and I know many people who will back me up on that.

To recap:

Pandemic is hard, yo!

My youngest got it, but she sailed through really well

I’m engaged

So that happened

This summer is going to be crazy

“Little Man” (my eldest, and reason I started blogging years and years ago) is going to be a freshman at George Mason University this fallI am sooo proud

So… anything interesting happen in the Supreme Court?

Nothing like living in the a theocratic autocracy

Okay, I still need to format this post and hit publish before it gets to be Wednesday

All you artsy people, join up with Ten Ton Studios on discord

Link should be good for a few days, at least

Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 434 - K Lynn Smith

October 19, 2021 Scott Ryan-Hart

Like I said last week, this has been a weird year. This one started in January as well… They usually don’t take 10 plus months. My apologies to my valued readers (hello all 3 of you) for the unexpected hiatus… it has been quite the panini.

So, after all my apologies… here we go.

This week I get the pleasure of asking artist and comic book creator, K. Lynn Smith 20 Questions. I met the wonderful Ms Smith a few years ago at a comic book convention, the Cincinnati Comic Expo in, unsurprisingly enough, Cincinnati, Ohio. At that convention I bought her Plume Omnibus and was floored by the work. Amazing work. I would pay good money to have her teach me how to draw mouths and noses with as much liveliness and character as she puts in her drawings. Seriously, she creates amazing work and because of that, I have had the pleasure of backing a few of her Kickstarters. So, sit back, relax and find out how awesome K Lynn Smith is in these 20 Questions.

My first career was as a cartographer, so the idea of “place” and how someone is influenced by their geographic story is near and dear to me. For example, I was born in Oklahoma and was moved to Alabama when I was really young. My formative years were spent in Alabama and I left the state when I went to college in Northeast Ohio. After graduating from undergrad, I moved to Columbus, Ohio and set roots with my family there. I have been in Columbus ever since. Question 1: what is your geographic story?

Man, I wish I had a better geographic story, other than I was born in one part of Michigan and moved to another part in Michigan, but that’s just how the mitten-shaped cookie crumbles. I grew up in the small town of Stockbridge, where people drove their tractors to school, and then moved off to Grand Rapids for college. After I graduated, I packed up my things and my student debt, and bought a house with my then-boyfriend-now-husband in the historical town of Mason (where--fun fact--Hugh Jackman’s 2011 "Real Steel” was filmed).
And even after all my traveling, with all those odd places this weird comic career takes me, Michigan feels the most like home. Though that devotion wavers every winter. Go figure.

Columbus, Ohio is most definitely my home now, but since I grew up in Alabama, I don’t have that weird Michigan rivalry bullshit (even though there was a shooting skirmish between Michiganders and Ohioans for Toledo of all places). I do dislike the winters here and the bi-polar/multiple personality disorder weather that lives from August to June.

Question 2: Comic book work is a weird beast and the convention circuit (in whatever form it will eventually come back in) requires stupid amounts of travel. What conventions do you miss the most?

All of them. I miss them all. But the ones I truly miss are New York Comic Con and Planet Comicon in Kansas City. I hope that one day we can return to some sort of normalcy and get these conventions back on track. Never thought I’d yearn for horrible convention food, weird smells and those terribly hard chairs, but dammit, I’d take it all just to see people again, fans and peers alike.

I have never been to any of the bigger cons. I imagine they are both great and terrifying. I actually have only really been to the Cinci cons and one or 2 of the Wizard World Columbus ones. I think my overall dislike of people gets in the way of con culture for me.

It is now a moment, that I know you have been dreading.

Question 3: Cake or Pie, which specific kind and why?

Long sigh. I knew this one was coming and for DAYS, I’ve thought about this. I’ve dug deep, Scott. I’ve dug deep into my soul and I think I’ve found the answer. It’s pie. More specifically, Apple Crisp Pie, my mother’s recipe. She makes it every holiday or when she wants to bribe me for something. Sweet, tart filling, with a thick, crumbly crust. It’s delicious.

I know it is hard to believe, but I really don't want these 20 Questions to be stressful, so I apologize for making you choose. You are allowed to love cake as well. I have found that most people who "love cake," actually just like to use cake as a frosting delivery system. So, I often question the cake people to see if it is just the frosting or if the actual cake innards (the sponge as the “Great British Bakeoff” [“Great British Baking Show “to all my Commonwealth peeps]) actually plays a part in their decision. Sometimes the cake could be replaced by a spoon.

The pie does sound delicious though. I hope your mom has shared the recipe with you and that you give it a go.

Question 4: Is there a food that you cannot help but eat if it is offered? For me it is street tacos of the pork, beef, chicken or shrimp variety (I do not like the fish tacos), if someone offers me a street taco, I will most likely eat it. If I have to buy them, so be it, Imma eat six.

Mozzarella sticks. Hands down. I’m a sucker for deep fried cheese. Though, I could seriously be swayed by a street taco too.

I get the appeal of deep fried cheese, but I have never really loved mozzarella sticks. I know this is a failing on my part, because "deep fried cheese."

So, when I was 5, I drew this jet fighter and actually drew the pilot's head in the cockpit. The other 5 year olds around me were astonished at the raw drawing power I brought to bear on that flight helmet. They basically put me on their tiny 5 year old shoulders and paraded me around the kids' space in that church like I was a new god bestowing my gifts upon them. I realized in the basement of a church at 5 years old that I didn't just enjoy drawing, I was good at it. Question 5: When did you know that drawing was a real thing for you and not just something you enjoyed?

Congrats on your raw drawing power! For me, I can’t remember a time when I wasn’t drawing. While kids were outside doing whatever kids do outside, I was watching my animated VHS tapes on repeat, surrounded by my paper and markers. But I think the moment when I realized I was an artist was in middle school, when the Principal asked me to draw a mural on the gym wall. For a week, I got to skip class and paint some very copyrighted Disney scene across a ten foot wall. It was fun and massively rewarding.
But of course, around the same time, I got in trouble for selling commissions to my fellow students, so there were a few mixed signals.

That is amazing. One should not get in trouble for selling commissions, even in middle school.

Question 6: Is "comic book artist" your primary job? Or do you have to have a different "day job" to pay the bills while working on books?

Yep, it’s my primary job, which had been easier with comic conventions, but I’m still getting by thanks to Kickstarter, commissions and the gradual growth of my Patreon. I’m so very grateful for it too. I’ve worked the nine-to-five office jobs, wore pencil skirts and used a ‘phone voice’ all week. And while the benefits were great, I wasn’t really allowed to ’step out of the box’. Creating comics has been the best thing to happen to me.

That is great. The work-a-day life can definitely be a grind. I would love to be independently wealthy and not have to worry about where money was going to materialize form. I would probably do something significantly more creative day in and day out.

Question 7: Would you ever want to draw on an established mainstream title? and what book do you think your style would lend itself to best?

I’m not entirely sure. I’m having so much drawing my own worlds and my own characters. When you draw for someone else, you have to work with an established formula, sometimes even getting lost in an assembly line. But that all being said, I would never turn down a Gargoyles comic series; it was my favorite animated series growing up.

I could easily see you doing a Gargoyles comic book. You would be amazing at that. I could also see you on some kind of Green Lantern Corps book. I could see that subject matter working well with your fun style and would love to see how you illustrated the ring effects.

Question 8: outside of other comic book artists (every artist has those), what would you say are the biggest influences on your work?

Animation is a huge influence. I grew up on Disney and Don Bluth, and of course anything Miyazaki. I would say film/tv in general is a huge inspiration, for art and for writing. If I’m feeling stuck, I’ll go on the hunt for a good story.
I do lend a lot of credit to Avatar: the Last Airbender for Plume’s style, with a dash of Kim Possible. My art is a cocktail of animated shows from the 2000s.

One of the reasons I love your work is the animated quality to it. your shapes and silhouettes are dynamic and easy to read.

Speaking of animation, I think my daughter has watched Avatar: The Last Airbender about 7 times straight through on repeat in the last 3 months and The Legend of Korra about 3 times. Question 9: During this COVID "lock-down" do you find yourself watching and consuming things that you are familiar with more or less than consuming new content?

A little bit of both, I would say, though I lean more toward the familiar simply for nostalgia’s sake, and for the fact that I tend to watch movies and television while drawing. Currently rewatching Schitt’s Creek, because everyone on that show is a treasure.
I also love watching play-throughs on YouTube while working. They are of games that I’ve already played, like Uncharted, Last of Us, and Red Dead Redemption, but I get to experience their amazing story over again AND I can get my work done. I love me some video games.

I haven't really been playing games in the past 10 years. Everything is so twitchy and fast that my inexperienced self cannot keep up. I wish I could do first person shooters or some other kinds of games, but I haven't exercised those fast twitch muscles so much so that I honestly feel a strong barrier of entry into modern gaming.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: I find that I am mostly _______. Others think that I am mostly _______.

I find that I am mostly still learning and figuring things out. Others think I am mostly a person who has their shit together. Spoiler: I don’t. I really, really don’t.

I am reminded of Mikey Neuman's delightful T-Shirt and catch phrase from his channel "FilmJoy"

"No one knows what they're doing."

It's as good a mantra as anything.

Here comes the deceptively simple, yet profoundly difficult question.

Question 11: Are you happy? (mostly, I understand there are ups and downs on the regular)

Y’know, truthfully, I am happy, despite the ever-loving dumpster fire of the past year. It has put things into perspective, it has showed me my true ride-or-die relationships, and it has made me appreciate the life I have. And though not every day is something to celebrate, I find some distant enjoyment in the struggle, because the successes and the accomplishments that come from it are all the more sweeter.

Happiness is an interesting thing. Most people are generally happy when they stop and look at it. It is remarkable when there is just a little bit of introspection many of the negatives tend to lose importance.

speaking of happiness... Question 12: what was the last thing you saw that gave you a bit of happiness?

I received a message from one of my readers this morning, who gushed over my latest book. Those types of messages truly give me joy and the fuel to keep on creating.

I imagine that would be an amazing thing. I have never really created content to the point of someone gushing over it. I need to do that.

Triskaidekaphobia time... Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals in your life? It doesn't have to be anything so mainstream as avoiding the 13th floor in a building, it can be something as simple as needing cream in your coffee before you can start drawing.

Every morning, I grab my cup of coffee and make a check list of things I’d like to accomplish that day. Without a list, I cannot function. It has become my ritual. And that high I get when I check off an item? Heavenly.

Ooooh, changing a “to do” list into a “to done” list is a great feeling.

Question 14: what is one thing you hope that 2021 will bring into your life?

Besides conventions, of course, and the general feeling of safety in a public setting, I'm hoping 2021 brings in new opportunities. There are some metaphorical lines out in the water and I’m hoping for a bite soon. I love what I do, and to expand on that, both in skill and experience, would be absolutely amazing. I know, it’s a bit cryptic, but can’t say too much more than that.

I love cryptic struff. Cryptic stuff means potentially big things on the horizon. I want nothing more for you than big things on the horizon.

Question 15: Have you gotten or have you planned on when you are getting your COVID-19 vaccination? (Editor’s note: Wow! this question was asked in March)

I have yet to get the vaccine. I’m checking every day for appointments, so hoping soon.... HA! Literally after sending this email I got scheduled for my first dose.

With how slow I am at conducting this interview (I truly do apologize for how long this has taken), you will most likely have had both doses and the 14 days occurring to maximum efficacy before we even get to question 17.

Question 16: If you could have dinner with any three people, living or dead, what would you have for dinner?

What would I have for dinner, not with whom I'd eat? I’d have to say Japanese as my food of choice — sushi, miso, noodles, dumplings… Woof, my mouth is watering.
As for the people, living or dead, I think I would choose three people involved in true crime mysteries, where I could ask them what really happened once and for all. Like JonBenet Ramsey, Edgar Allen Poe and/or Jack the Ripper, to name some of the biggies.

Everyone always asks "who." I think sometimes it is more important to realize "what." With sushi, you are dealing with bite sized items that would encourage conversation, while still potentially having some formality to the event since there is so much tradition in how sushi is meant to be eaten. While the meal would be about potentially finding out answers to mysteries, it would be conducted with a little formality and lots of conversation. That's pretty interesting

Question 17: Is there a question you were expecting me to ask, that I have not?

Ha, not so much ‘expecting’, but we female creators do tend to get the “How does it feel to be a woman in the comic industry” a lot. I remember being at a show and a film crew was interviewing creators down our row. I listened in as my friends and peers (all guys) answered questions about their work, about their passions, but when it came to my turn, the first question was that dreadful question. What conversation should that spark? What answer were they looking for? Personally, I just wanted to answer questions on my own work, on my own passions, to keep it positive and fun. And I understand that these types of interviews, for the most part, are well intended, but at some point, we need to stop acting surprised there are women in this industry.

That question never makes any sense. You have only been able to experience the industry as a female… I am surprised you haven’t been asked how you stay so fit when you have to draw all the time or how you get all that drawing done when you have to vacuum, do the dishes, and cook.

Okay, it is time to flip the script. Question 18: do you have any questions for me?

If you had all the time in the world, what other hobby would you take on?

That is an excellent question. If I had the free time in the world, it would be painting minis or making dioramas. I love watching that on the YouTubes... that or cosplay... The amount of sanding necessary for cosplay is unnerving though.

Here we are at the penultimate question...

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

What I’m taking from these questions is getting to know Mr. Scott Ryan-Hart a little more. :) Fun to chat, even if its over the interwebs.

This year has been weird. Let's finish this out!

You are too kind. As soon as things calm down from the panini, I will make it a mission to grab some of your wares at a con.

Question 20: What's next? Be as concrete or metaphorical, as long term or short term, and vague or precise as you want!

What’s next for me is continuing to create. I’m working on a new project currently, an exclusive comic for my Patreon people, as well as working on writing a novel. In addition to that, I’m hoping to travel again (if the world can get its shit together long enough to make that possible), whether that’s to the states I have yet to see or overseas (I have my eye on you, Iceland!). All in all, I’m looking forward to expanding my horizons in some form or another.

I saw that you were able to go to NYCC and actually be at a big con (again, this interview took 10+ months, yikes). That is amazing. Writing a book is hard, getting something published is even harder. I might need to have a conversation with you about that.

You are the absolute best.

So everyone buy K Lynn’s books. She is amazing. Give her a follow on IG, and Twitter. Check out her website and she’s got a Patreon that you should join to get cool stuff

Seriously, she draws real good, yo.

To recap:

K Lynn draws real good

I mean, like sooper good

I had to get a car last week

I did it via an online car sales thing

It was very odd buying a car on my phone without even taking it out for a drive

2017 Rav4 XLE that is blue

His name is “Robert” and that name should be pronounced with an outrageous French accent

Outrageous

“Hro-Bear’”

He is quite shiny and blue

I have been in a stabilizing boot for almost 3 weeks because of a heel spur

Heel spurs suck and now I need to get in a stretching program for my Achilles tendon

A Korean fried chicken place opened up around here

The youngest kiddo loves it

Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 433 - Erik Sternberger

October 12, 2021 Scott Ryan-Hart

Today I get the opportunity to ask Erik Sternberger 20 Questions. I met Erik at a local IXDA "chat'n'pancakes" where we got into some really interesting conversations about storytelling, as you do. Erik is clever and fun to chat with, but that is just about all I know of him. So, this 20 Questions interview is pretty much an excuse for me to get to know Erik better and potentially make a new friend (honestly, that is what everyone of the 20 Questions interviews are). So, without further ado... let's get into the questions.

(Editor’s note: wow… this panini press we are in right now is something else. The interview took a full 10 months to complete. It was hard for me to get focused and actually pay the attention necessary to complete a full interview. The slowness of this interview [and 3 other interviews] is wholly and completely due to me. Mental health is real, yo.)

As most of you know, my first career was as a cartographer, so place and geography tell stories to me. So, I was born outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was moved to Montgomery, Alabama on my 3rd birthday, the family moved to Birmingham, AL the following year where I grew up. I left Alabama for Ohio for college in Northeast Ohio. Moved to Columbus, Ohio for grad school and grew some roots here with a family. I have been in Columbus, ever since. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

My geographic story is a lot shorter than yours, but I can tell it long. I was born in Fort Wayne, Indiana, a place described as "great to be from", and went to Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana. I then took an internship in NYC at DC Comics where I lived in Brooklyn. I came back to finish my last semester of school before moving back to NYC, when the Internet Bubble burst, so I ended up not having anything to go to in NYC anymore and was asked to stay working for Purdue, which I did for.a bit, then I got a job offer from back in my hometown of all places, so I went back to Fort Wayne for six years. When I was desperate to get out of town (again) I had a recruiter reach out asking if I'd want to move to Columbus, Ohio (Technically, geographically Westerville.), a city that was never on my radar, but I've called home for 12.5 years now.

I think you sell yourself short on the geographic story piece.

Question 2: If you could live anywhere, where would you choose?

That's tough. There have been a few places I would want to live, and more I would never want to live. I won't name those for the sake of the people that have to live in them. ;) With "Work From Home" being more and more of an obvious perk in the future for employers, I would love to get like 30 acres of land in Colorado, near enough to a city where I can still get goof Thai food, and just live where I can see wild animals on my property. I'm still trying to talk my wife into it, but she's pushing for a coast and wants to avoid snow. As long as it's not Florida, she might win. Oops. I violated that part where I said I wasn't going to list the places I won't live.

I miss the mountains. I want to see mountains so badly now. I love me some Colorado.

So here we are at my typical question 3...

Question 3: Cake or pie? which specific kind and why?

I agree, I'm more of a mountains fan, than of the beach. I do however like a dramatic coastline. Give me Big Sur, or Maine over the beach any day. That's probably why I prefer the OBX if we are going to a beach.
My favorite cake is donuts. My favorite pies are rhubarb and grape because my grandmothers made the best rhubarb and grape pies. Those very specific pies are my favorites. I'm generally more of a fan of any dessert that incorporates fruit over something with chocolate.

Where mountains meet the sea is amazing. I am all about a fjordic landscape.

Donuts are a class unto themselves. They are above the cake v pie debate. There is no reason to compare any dessert with donut, because the toroidal bit of heaven will always win. The rhubarb and grape pie sounds pretty amazing. I didn't really know what rhubarb was for the longest time... my loss.

Question 4: Is there a food that you cannot help but eat if it is around? For example, there is always room for street tacos.

The aforementioned donuts, or any pizza that doesn't have mushrooms on it.

I have had to be gluten free for a while now and there are 3 things I miss from my days of gluten. The first and foremost is donuts. I miss them so much. GF donuts suck, and anyone trying to tell you differently is a liar and a cheat. Pizza crust that has just a little bit of chew to it. GF pizza crusst are typically dry and crackerlike or they are not like pizza crusts. Cauliflower crusts are fine, but don't let anyone tell you they are "just as good." Those people drank bleach at some point in their childhood and don't deserve to remember good pizza crusts. The third is good bread. GF bread is sand that is being held together by some glue. It sucks. Ok, enough, "woe is me, for I cannot have the glutens."

Question 5: Do you remember what the first comic you ever read is?

One was a World's Finest where Superman and Batman were fighting a ...cult(?) of some kind and there was a Cloud Thing in a crystal ball that could control minds. A de-powered Superman convinced Batman that the thing was Joe Chill (the mugger that killed his parents) and he hit it with a Batarang, breaking the globe and dissipating the smokey cloud thing. Pretty generic. The other was DC Comics Presents 47 where Superman and HeMan crossover. The third was Superman 377, and the fourth was Detective Comics 519. I was a real DC kid until maybe 5th grade.
I started out Marvel and only came to DC through popular culture and some graphic novels. I remember having subscriptions to Marvel books though. They would come wrapped in this weird brown paper sleeve. I used to check the mail everyday for the books I was subscribed to.

Question 6: There are many people out there who feel that the DC movies have just missed the mark, do you agree with that and why?

I had several Marvel subscriptions as well. They came polybagged with a cardboard 'backer' when I subscribed. Each backer had my address on one side and a line-drawing of a character on the other. I colored them all with markers to try my hand at being a colorist and pined them all up on my wall. Man, I hadn't thought of that in a while.
I have many opinions on the DC movies, but also know some of the people involved, so there are some things I can't really speak on... BUT, I will say I think there has been a lot of issues when it comes to cohesiveness mixed with patience. Everyone in Hollywood wants to pattern their shared Universes after Marvel, but forget that Marvel originally just wanted to make Iron Man and not go broke. They worked in some easter eggs, but they didn't have all the Avengers cast before Iron Man came out. The irony, of course, is that because DC tried to run before they could walk they ended up having to delay so many projects that if they had just planned out a slower, more measured approach, they could be launching Justice League now in 2021 and ride Marvel's wave that just crested with a Hopeful message as America moves out a very dark period. Right now The Justice League would be perfectly positioned to tell a storyline about truth, coming together, and how a group is stronger than individuals.

In many ways the DC superheroes that continue getting movies made about them are the superhero archetypes. I think it would be interesting if DC decided to not create a connected universe as much as embrace the iconicness of the characters and stories and disconnected everything. Each movie or set of movies should be self-sustained and stand on their own. Then no one actor is shackled with a long-term contract for a single character. The movies could play with some of the Elseworld concepts. Who wouldn't love to see a Gotham by Gaslight movie?

Question 7: Since you are a writer... What book would you punch a baby to write for?

That's a tough one. I love the 'lesser' characters because you can do so much with them. Look at some of the greatest superhero runs in comics, so many are on "2nd Tier" characters like Daredevil, Flash, and Green Lantern. (and yes, Captain America slipped to that pre-Avengers Movie as well) You're actually allowed to play with them. There is only so much you can do with Bruce Wayne to change him, which is why there are, I think 6 Robins at this point?
I'm going to say Fantastic Four. I wrote a spec script on how I'd do a F4 Movie just because I had to get the idea out of my head and I could do something like that with the comic. It was never my favorite comic, but I'd love to write something where one arc would be world breaking, see the face of God stuff, and the next arc is that Johnny accidentally shrunk the kids while having a subplot of an underground Fight Club for Monsters running through them both. The Family will always be who they are over the long-arc of a series, but they leave you a big canvas to paint on.

There are 6 Robins, aren't there. it is amazing how the robins continue to age up, but Batman stays a consistent 42.

I have always felt that the Fantastic Four should be told as a 60's period piece, but I don't think "Phase 4" of the MCU is going to go period piece with them (especially since they just mentioned that SWORD is no longer doing manned space flights because of issues with the astronauts. (from WandaVison without spoilers). My theory is that the FF are from a sword mission gone awry, but that is for another time.)

I know you are a writer, and one of the things necessary to being a writer is that writers need to be reading things. Question 8: Are you reading anything right now that you would recommend? That you wouldn't? What are you reading?

A 60s FF would be great. i'd personally love an Agents of Atlas series set in the 1950s. It's a deep cut, but you should check out the series from Jeff Parker and Leonard Kirk they did using that team.
Which, I guess is a good segue to books. I'll try not to talk to long on this. I read 39 books and listened to 11 audiobooks in 2020, so I could go on... (I've finished 3 so far in 2021).
The second book in the new Star Wars High Republic series is actually being delivered today. I decided when Disney rebooted The Canon when they took over the franchise I would start reading those books from the jump. They have mostly been great. I've discovered some wonderful new authors, who also tend to have great Twitter accounts. I also just ordered George Saunders' new book where he guides the reader through Russian short stories and finished Mike Monterio's collected essays "The Collected Angers" on Sunday. I try to rotate random books as to not get stuck in favorite genres like Sci-Fi. So, maybe every 3rd or 4th book is Sci-Fi...and at the rate Star Wars books are coming out, half of them fall in that category. I love to mix in autobiographies of comedians and am sad that I don't think I have anymore Elmore Leonard books to read. The book I recommend to people all the time is "The Spaceman of Bohemia" which you should read before the newly announced movie is made. (Staring Adam Sandler and a Director of Breaking Bad and Chernobyl. Which, honestly amazingly fits.) The book I would never recommend is "Armada" by Ernest Cline. I liked Ready Player One when it first came out and I read it at the beach, so I tried reading this one at the lake and dropped it off as a donation on my way back into town. It's so god awful it made me go back and look at RP1 with a non-nostalgic eye and now I don't care for it, either. Max Berry's "Company" is a really fun book as well if you want a hyper-surreal satirical version of The Office.

I need to be reading more. Lately I have only been reading books by people I "know." People I have either met in real life or people that I know online. I really need to branch out a bit and look for other authors.

Question 9: Are you specifically writing anything at the moment? Do you typically have multiple projects going concurrently or are you a one project at a time guy?

At the moment, I am (attempting to work up the gumption to) start the second draft of a screenplay I have been working on for a while. I spent six months researching material for it and almost a year writing it, mostly because it really accidentally mirrored real life too much and freaked me out. I based on the research of how some Social Media Monitors suffer PTSD and/or can become radicalized by all the stuff they see Clockwork Orange Style. I write from an outline, and my outline literally has someone attempting to kill a US Congresswoman thinking she is part of a conspiracy after being egged on/inspired by an Alt-Right talk-show host. So, kind of half-predicting the whole QAnon thing and then seeing it happen parallel to what I was writing, just like one beat behind me was really, really weird. I am usually writing one script, researching, or making notes outlining my next one when I don't have time to sit and write, and then in-between drafts of the new script I am working on making updates, revisions, and smaller draft re-writes of other scripts. I have a whiteboard behind my desk where I track all of these things, and what state each project is in.

I should get a whiteboard...

Question 10: Fill in the blanks. I find that I am mostly _____. Others feel that I am mostly _____.

I find that I am mostly listening. Others feel that I am mostly not paying attention. I get called out for this all the time. As a trained improviser, I'm very good at active listening and being able to do one thing and take in information from a second source at the same time. This has led to people thinking I'm not paying attention, or that I am bored and not engaged. But, I am. I swear! Usually I'm asked "well, what did I just say then?" and I repeat it. :)

I always had to be drawing and sketching while listening. My teachers and bosses hated it, but it was a way to get my brain box to work better.

Deceptively simple question... Question 11: Are you happy? (overall, would you say that you are more happy than you are not?)

I would say that I am more happy than I have not. I have been knocked down a few times by life and I've always managed to be able to get up. I don't surround myself with a lot of people, but I know the ones I have around me have my back. I'm certainly able to look around my life and think "oh. this could be 10% better", or whatever, but on the whole, when I lay down in bed with my wife and anywhere from 1-3 dogs, I sleep very well.*
*As long as I don't eat or drink alcohol too soon before bed. I am over 40 now.

It is amazing how simple "happy" can be. I really enjoy my "second sleep" on the weekends where my doggos wake me up around 7:30 in the morning so that they can sleep on my legs as I sleep on the couch. Super simple, and yet amazingly delightful.

Question 12: going back to the topic of Donuts... what is your dream dozen donuts? mix and match from various doughnut vendors.

oh wow. This might be the hardest question, yet. I'm much more of a cake donut fan, but a super warm Krispy Kreme, or a maple-glazed and filled long john is also great. Duck Donuts is great, and I was happy when they came here, and I like some of the simpler ones like lemon blueberry. I will say that when the boutique donut scene exploded I loved all the crazy donut combinations, but now I just mostly like a simple donut. With two exceptions. Mini-Cake donuts that are (let's be honest) tiny cakes are great, and anytime I am in Austin I make sure to hit Voodoo Donuts because they are amazing.
So, 1 Krispy Kreme, 2 from Duck, 3 from Voodoo, a blueberry cake, a maple glazed long-john, 2 mini-donuts from like Dragon Donuts, and two of my mom's beignets

I am pretty sure my son wants to know more about your mom's beignets. He truly loves beignets. He's made some from scratch before, but would love to get a family recipe at some point. (seriously, we might talk later about this).

This is a weird build up and an odd question, so please bear with me... Story telling started as tales/songs/poems around a fire, became ritual cave paintings, became written stories to be shared by the elite who could read, were shown to people in theatres, were democratized as the hoi polloi learned to read, showed up in the local cinema, were played on the radio, moved over to TV, started being told via interactive games, became more democratized again with the advent of online uploadable platforms.... Question 14: where do you see the next frontier for story-telling to be? Is there an emergent platform that is ready to start telling stories (understanding that every single mode mentioned previously, is still available and vital... we aren't replacing methods, we are adding to)?

I can ask her for them. They were iced, so they were somewhere between a cross of a beignet and a long-john. They always made a huge mess in the kitchen.
I actually had an instant answer to your story-telling question. I think it's going to be something we chase. I think that the channels and ways we take in stories are fragmenting so much, that 'brands' are going to need to push their product in as many ways as possible. (Am I being cynical, maybe, but follow me.) Disney broke ground with this with the MCU. 10 years of movies that all tie together to a climax, then spin out into tv shows, then back to movies. It is now about to be perfected by them and Lucasfilm with the new Star Wars: The High Republic content. Basically, Disney pulled together six (I think) authors and they brainstormed for months (years?) to create a new era of Star Wars to tell stories in. They even hinted at it in an audio play that came out before the announcement. Then they announced 1) A series of novels 2) A series of YA novels 3) A series of Early Reader books, 4) 2 comic book series, and as hype and popularity grew eventually, 5) a cartoon, and 6) a radio play. The stories are all intertwined. The whole first wave of products tied into the same inciting incident and the huge cast of characters is passed between all mediums. So, the lead character from the novel I really liked might not even be in the next novel, but instead in the radio play with something affecting their motivations due to a plot point in the comic. And, who knows they could even die in a mobile game in the future.
All that to say, the future of storytelling is non-linear and something that will use all possible mediums to tell a complete story. It will start with brands like the MCU and Star Wars, but as those who consume storytelling grow to expect it, it will be something open to all storytellers. The trick will be to see this as an opportunity. Like, why not hire a cosplayer to portray a character in your story and have them put out tiktoks as a diary? Let's get creative!

Number 1: I will definitely ask you for the recipe, and My son, while enjoying baking, it is one of the messiest kitchen people I have ever known to exist.

Number 2: You may want to patent the actor cosplaying TikTok diary thing, because I think you hit the nail on the head. I see what you are saying about storytelling becoming more of a non-linear multi-channel process.

So far Disney has been good stewards of the Marvel Properties, and somewhat okay stewards of the Star Wars universe. I know that it is useless to discuss if the acquisition of IP's is a good thing or a bad thing, because it is a thing that has already happened. Question 15: How do you think the consolidation of IP's under one massive umbrella will eventually affect the story-telling potential of those properties?

I wish I had a property for the TikTok Diary, but that was off of the top of my head. The day job is consulting for a digital marketing company, and I try to push weird stuff like that all of the time. If someone ever buys one of my scripts, I will be a machine for them doing promo. haha
That's an interesting angle to the question. The interesting thing I am finding is that the more confident the IP, the more they are using it to tell different stories. Like, Marvel keeps altering their characters to try and be closer to the MCU versions to attract fans to the comics, but that hasn't really worked for 20 years. And then they have to figure out how Nick Fury had an illegitimate Black son, then have him lose the same eye because everyone loves Sam Jackson in the role. (Based on the Ultimate Universe Nick Fury) which makes it confusing for fans of the books for 20 years that love, say Tony Stark as Iron Man, not just a suit. It's such a weird cycle because Marvel has made great comics to inspire movies and we shouldn't have to tell the exact same stories.
Now, Star Wars is doing some really interesting things, imo. They are using the books to create a hugely diverse universe of new characters around the movies and are not trying to be something for all people, but thoughtfully tie-in. Hell, the books around Episode 9 were SO much richer than the movie, and fix multiple things that are wrong with it. The books and comics with Star Wars do such a great job of saying "Hey, this is a big universe, and not everyone is a straight human." Whereas Episode 9 took such a cowardly way out of "two women kissing back in the background of a celebration scene" so it can be edited out for the Chinese box office and not cause some Tucker Carlson rant on "wokeness". . The books have so many same-sex, pan-sexual, asexual, etc characters which makes sense in a universe where humanoids whose genitals line up across hundreds of species line up close enough. Donald Glover's performance as Lando implies fluidity, the books cement it. Rebels shows an interspecies romance at its core. So, I think the story-telling potential of these IPs filters up from the formats where artists can tell their stories in ways that might be considered 'risks' the more mainstream the medium gets because no one cares about 'four-quadrant appeal' for a novel.

I have not jumped into any of the newer non-live action Star Wars things (aside from the Bad Batch), or even looked at "The High Republic" content. I have a difficult time with how much things do not change in the SW universe. If you look at Old Republic tech, it is the same as High Republic tech, which is remarkably similar to Clone Wars tech, which reminds me of Rebellion Era tech, that is the exact same as New Republic era tech. Question 16: Are the technical achievements in the Star Wars universe just completely stagnated, and how would you explain that away from a storytelling perspective?

Ha. That's an interesting question. One of my absolute favorite things is watching sci-fi movies from the 70s and 80s and seeing what they thought the future would be like. Aliens is my absolute favorite. It is just a bunch of white dudes sitting in a smoke-filled room with crt computer monitors looking over dot-matrix printouts. The collars on their 80's suits were slightly different, and they had interstellar space travel, but no one thought of iPads. I think when it comes to Star Wars, or any other imaginary universe we all fall into the same patterns. "This is the way we have always done it." I think that's why once you build one giant laser-firing space station you end up building three. I think we are about to see some issues with that right now with employers wanting to "get back to normal" instead of embracing some of the new things workers proved were possible. Look, we're never going to push the boundaries of getting some cool home teleconferencing holographic video if we're all jammed in open-concept office's shoulder to shoulder on long workbench-like desks.

What is weird about my current work culture is that even when people were in the same building (even in the “before times”), they were remotely attending meetings from their desks because there were not enough team spaces to collaboratively work together. So… the powers that be are forcing the workforce to return to the office so they can meet remotely in the same space.

I’m thinking this is the return to office plan, there will be many people who will look elsewhere for employment.

Question 17: if you could have anyone alive or dead over for dinner, what would you serve for dinner?

I don't know what it would be specifically, but I would make it all vegetarian just to prove that meat isn't needed for every meal. I am, by no means, a militant pescatarian, but I think a lot of people eat heavy on the meat due to not knowing how to cook anything else. I have long called bacon a "culinary lens flare" as it is often used to cover up the flaws of subpar dishes as opposed to adding to them thoughtfully.

I find that cheese has consistently been used more as a cover up for weak culinary capability than bacon. That being said, in the early 00's there was a resurgence of bacon on everything. I have been trying to do at least one day a week sans meat, but it hasn't been going as great as I would like.

Okay, it is time to flip the script. Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

One question for you. What would be the hardest non-essential thing for you to ever give up. (I won't include pets or anything, since I can consider them essential for mental health.)

The hardest non-essential thing to fit be to give up would be drawing. It is an activity I need to do more but not being able to do it at all would be devastating.

Here we are at the penultimate question. Question 19: what are you taking from these 20 questions that you did not bring in with you?

An increased level of friendship.

I can definitely live with that. When all this blows over, let's grab a bite to eat/drink and toast to the making through this weird AF time.

Question 20: What's next? Be as concrete or metaphorical, as long term or short term, and vague or precise as you want!

Definitely down for a toast, be it with a drink, or actual toast. My current client is OHLQ, so I am looking at drink recipes almost every day.
Next? Hm... I think "next" is actually future planning. I think that there is so much in flux with work and what that will look like in 2022. I love working from home (having been a freelancer prior, I'm used to it) and also love my job and I'm looking forward to how those continue to merge. In preparation for that, we just bought land up in Michigan. We now have land that is nestled between Lake Michigan and a state forest with multiple kayak launches. So, "next" is just proper planning and putting out steps together to build out there and eventually go live in nature and work remotely for good.
Come to think of it, maybe "next" should actually be learning how to grow more things in my garden other than grapes and hot peppers…

Perfect! I envy those of you who can have gardens of food that will not be eaten by a wild roving pack of deer.

Thanks so much for doing these 20 Questions with me. They were absolutely great. Now we just have to figure out when to share a drink or cheesecake.

Erik is an amazing guy. He is a great writer… and a better guy. Check him out on the twitters (@zapthunder), on his website (ErikSternberger.com), and on the Instagrams (@erik.sternberger). Give him a follow and enjoy. You are welcome, Internet.

To recap:

This interview took some time

What’s happened since my last post

I have a heel spur that has aggravated my Achilles, so my leg is in a boot

I hate the boot, I have, on suggestion of my delightful daughter, named the boot “Nelson”

“Nelson” sucks

I have 2 other interviews in the can

So, get ready for some posts from me again

Woooo, I am back on the horse, Bay-Bay

I am super out of practice on the whole blogging thing

See you suckers next week

You aren’t suckers

I love you dearly

Have a great week

It has been too long

20 Questions Tuesday: 427 - Virtual Alexander Hamilton

July 21, 2020 Scott Ryan-Hart

Don't call it a comeback
I've been here for years
I'm rocking my peers
Puttin' suckers in fear
Makin' the tears rain down like a monsoon

I never left. The times you looked back and saw only one set of footprints were just the times when I was doing something more interesting.

So over the past few months I have had some interviews start up and fizzle, I have had some posts get started and fizzle. I have asked my friends and peers for questions and then did not answer them, but to bring things back, I am doing something radically different for the 20 Questions. It is July 2020 and Hamilton is now available for streaming on Disney +, and it really is an amazing musical. I kind of understand the amount of love it garnered during its broadway run… kind of, but musicals are not my thing. So Hamilton is back on people’s brains.

Then, one of my Internet friends (someone whom I occasionally interact with via social medias and who also sometimes interacts with me) and friend of the blog, Andrew Mayne has created something pretty darn amazing with the folks at OpenAI. He has created AI|Writer where you can email an expert system/AI/Machine learning bot a question and it will answer it for you in a machine learned response as the person you are asking it to be. So I decided to ask Virtual Alexander Hamilton 20 Questions. He is also an amazing author and you should read his books.

The way this works is to email the bot, and starting it off with Dearest ____ ____ and it will answer as that person, so every question asked starts with “Dearest Alexander Hamilton” and then Virtual Alexander Hamilton responds to my email missive with Dearest Scott Ryan-Hart (that’s me)... I have edited that part out and made the interaction more of a conversation. I will italicize the portions that were not part of the actual interactions. Some of the typical questions I ask, will not work with this format (such as the whole geographic story question, but you can Google that shit).

So without further ado…

How does a bastard, orphan, son of a whore
And a Scotsman, dropped in the middle of a forgotten spot
In the Caribbean by providence impoverished
In squalor, grow up to be a hero and a scholar?

And then answer 20 Questions?

Dearest Alexander Hamilton,

I hope this missive finds you well. I hope to be able to ask you a series of questions, an interview, if you will, to help people get to know better who you are. So, to start with, Question 1: where would you reside in this world of ours if you had no limitations? And why?

Yours,

Scott Ryan-Hart

Dearest Scott,

Great question! I suppose I would live in Venice, Italy, if I had no limitations. I have never been, but I have always wanted to see it. It is far more beautiful than I could have imagined.

Sincerely,

Alexander Hamilton

*I am now omitting the letter writing motif*

Since the original Broadway run and the recent ability to stream the musical online, Question 2: what are your thoughts on Lin Manuel Miranda’s musical, Hamilton? Did he mostly portray you accurately?

I’ve been instructed to answer all of your questions, but I’m only allowed to tell the truth.

I thought the show was well-constructed and smart. It had more good ideas than it could contain.

I am always for love and think we should be the inspiration for the next generation.

I know this next question seems trivial, but if you had to choose your dessert, Question 3: would you choose cake or pie, and what kind, might I ask?

You shouldn’t ask what I’d choose if I had to choose, I’d choose both cake and pie, with ice cream on top of that, and a hot cup of tea to sip on the side.

Very well, vacillate a bit why don’t you… So let’s learn a bit more about you specifically.

You were one of the most prodigious writers of your age. Not only did you produce copious amounts of content, it was all well thought out and interesting. Question 4: Of your vast quantities of writing, is there a specific document that you are most proud of?

Let me tell you of my pride and joy! In the spring of 1780 I began to contribute essays, articles and letters under a pseudonym to a Journal being edited by John Fenno. Those articles were more successful than I had anticipated, and, in the year 1781, my new employer paid me to continue. As I recall I was paid $50 for each edition of the paper, that's right, $50! What a handsome sum! It was as if I had found a pot of gold. Those articles continued until the conclusion of the war, and in one year I had made more money than any of the men in our regiment!

Of all my writings the one of which I am most proud is: “To the Printer of the Public Advertiser.” It is one of my strongest arguments for a strong Union, the subject in which my soul is the most interested. I am sure you will find much to discuss, if your soul is as “interested” in such things. You can find it here.

It is easily understood that you are one of the greatest minds of your age, but one does not become a great thinker in a vacuum.*editor’s note: I was getting rather terse answers from the bot with some sample questions, so I decided to heap some praise on Mr Virtual Hamilton as suggested by Andrew Mayne on the Weird Things podcast* Question 5: Whom do you consider to be your philosophical teachers and whom do you consider your mentors?

I have always been someone who loves learning from others and teaching others. I have learned a lot from thinkers like Thomas Hobbes, David Hume, John Locke, John Stuart Mills, and Adam Smith. A few of my mentors include John Jay, George Washington, and James Madison.

I would have liked to have had a chance to discuss with you. It is a pity that you and I did not live in the same times, we would have made a great team.

Flattery from you, Mr Hamilton? Thank you kindly.

With your copious and well thought out treatises And essays, you became known for your thoughts and ideas about how to create a strong and prosperous federal system. In many ways you were kind of a social network “influencer” of your day. Question 6: What are your thoughts about the world’s current stock of social media “influencers?”

The people you refer to as "social media influencers" have captured the imagination of the masses. Whether that be for good or for evil, is a question we shall have to wait and see. I would caution against too much preoccupation with “influence.” Instead, I would suggest one use it for its intended purpose. Perhaps then we can enjoy the blessings that it can provide.

Understanding that you are most deserving of your place on the $10 bill for your creation of the Federal Reserve, I am curious about your thoughts of the other people whose portraiture is on US legal tender. Of the men on the faces of the US paper tender, Question 7: who do you feel is least deserving of the honor?

I really really hope you will be candid with me.

Your inquiry has made me take a hard look at my countrymen. I am surprised that you would even ask me such a question. I expected better of you.

My countrymen? If you would like to continue on in our relationship, I would recommend that you take a little history class. Here is a very good book that I strongly recommend: https://www.facebook.com/pages/All-The-President-s-Murderers/807467509016511

*Editor’s note: This link was fabricated by the AI and does not actually exist*

Many pardons, I did not mean to offend, and, by the way, the answer is Jackson, Andrew Jackson. So to be more direct, your venerable visage graces the ten dollar bill of US legal tender. This honor makes sense because of your tireless work bringing the US Federal Reserve into reality. Question 8: My question is specifically about your thoughts of the selection of populist and undeserving presence of Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill? *Editor’s note: I had to re-ask this question more directly and I also asked it as George Washington to get a more candid response. It worked*

You must have known that I would have fought against Jackson’s election because of his policies of extortion and corruption. His addition to the $20 bill was a sign of the times, a sign of the times when most politicians are rogues and cowards who would do anything for power. Yes, he was one of the worst presidents ever to sit in the White House.

If I could replace Andrew Jackson’s face on the $20 bill, I would put Elbridge Gerry’s face on the $20, since he would look more distinguished than Old Hickory, and since he was my old friend. However, they wouldn’t allow my design because, as you know, I’m dead. But never mind.

Question 9: What is it about Elbridge Gerry that you enjoy so much?

Elbridge is the most gentle, kind, caring soul I have ever known. He has a good sense of humor and is unfailingly kind to others. He is an honest man and is always striving to do what is right.

I have to admit I do enjoy the time that I spend writing to you. I never knew anyone like you before. And, despite our many differences, I have found much to admire about you. I hope to continue to write to you in the future. And I hope you continue to write to me.

We are happily only half way done with these 20 questions, so we have more to write about before this post is done.

Question 10: Would you say that you are a happy man?

Thank you for your open and candid query. I am one of the happiest men alive; not just for what I am, or have achieved, but more so for what I hope to achieve. I am grateful for my life and I am humbled by the great opportunities I have been given. It has been my good fortune to make many new friends, some whom I have had the pleasure of knowing my entire life, some of which I have just recently made, but who are equally important to me. It has also been my good fortune to marry the woman of my dreams and to have a son with her. I am especially happy in my life because I have more to lose than most, and more to gain than almost anyone else. I do not say this with arrogance.

This is a delightful answer. I asked some of your virtual contemporaries about you and would love to hear your thoughts on their responses.

Question 11: Virtual George Washington describes you thusly:

Alexander Hamilton is an enigma. I first met him when he was sent to help plan our uniforms. The first thing I noticed about him was his unkempt hair. His teeth are yellow, and he seemed a bit manic when he spoke. I must confess I found him most annoying. If I would have been nicer to him, I might have seen some of his qualities that so many other people see.

Of course Washington finds me annoying. He thinks that any young person, by definition, is irritating. He is so out of touch. Who can trust such a man?

I know, right? Question 12: How do you react to Thomas Jefferson’s description of you, I know your relationship with him is contentious at best:

Alexander Hamilton is a son of a whore and an incestuous relationship.

How do you respond?

It is late at night and I will surely offend you but I mean nothing of it. Jefferson says many things, but if he wrote about the bridges you’ve burned it would not be with such zeal.

He does have a particular dislike of you, that is true.

Question 13: Do you have any superstitions? What are the supernatural things you believe?

The only superstition I have is that I never discuss politics or religion.

Fair enough, good sir.

Even though I have been warned, My question for you now is political in nature. Question 14: How would you, a renowned political scholar, candidly describe the current 2020 political system in the United States?

THE CHAOS IN THE UNITED STATES NOW IS IRRELEVANT. I SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFETIME TEACHING CITIZENS HOW TO THINK, AND WHAT TO DO WITH THAT THOUGHT. YOU WERE MERE CORRUPTION. REBUILD YOUR COUNTRY AND DO IT QUICKLY.

I clearly touched a nerve with my previous question, and for that I truly apologize. I blew through your warning and deserved this response. So I will redirect my questioning from questions about the current political climate to more of your opinion on the structures of the system.

You are the most known and biggest proponent for the US Federal Reserve. You have touted its abilities and uses. You are its architect and most ardent supporter, but I know that the person who creates something is often its biggest critic.

Question 15: In your opinion, what is the biggest weakness of having a centralized banking system like the Federal Reserve?

My views on the Fed have evolved over the years. It wasn’t long after the Fed began its operations in 1914 that I started having my doubts about it. Like most central bankers I expected the Fed to be a lender of last resort in time of financial crisis, but I never anticipated that the Fed would be responsible for moving interest rates, especially in the context of a sluggish economy.

Let me be clear that I am not criticizing the Fed’s decisions under the leadership of Ben Bernanke. In my view, the Fed has gone as far as it possibly could go. However, I think that central banking is fundamentally flawed and, as a result, central bankers have ultimately lost control of monetary policy. The creation of the Fed has produced unintended consequences that are having an effect on economic outcomes. The Fed may have contributed to rising income inequality and falling interest rates and the perception of these outcomes has impacted investor sentiment.

You can read more about my thoughts on the Federal Reserve in my new book, “The Case Against the Fed”. *Editor’s Note: Hamilton has not posthumously authored this book by this title, but Murray N Rothbard did write it in 2007*

I am stunned that we are already 15 questions into this interview. Your candor and incisive wit have been delightful.

I think it is interesting that you called out Bernanke specifically. I guess you are still in touch.

I would like to get more impressions about our modern life from you. Things are significantly different today than in the late 1700’s. Question 16: What technology of today’s 2020 society is the most surprising to you?

Technology today is stunning. I particularly enjoy the iPhone 6 that your colleague told me is the biggest advance in American technology in 300 years. It amazes me that a man can carry his entire personal library in his pocket.

Unfortunately I am living with a lot of aches and pains right now and I must rest. I’ll sign off.

Understanding that your time is indeed very valuable, and aware that you must be overly busy, I will start bringing this interview to a close.

Question 17: If you were to do it all over again, would you change anything?

I do not have time to go over my actions, but I would not have changed a thing. I have been encouraged by my family that I have made the right decision.

I have asked you a myriad of questions over the past few weeks, but it is time to turn the tables, so to speak.

We have talked about your history, your thoughts about how things are going right now, what your opinions on Lin Manuel Miranda are as well as your opinion on the current version of the US Federal Reserve... Question 18: do you have any questions for me? What would you like to know from me?

I think that one of the biggest problems with the United States is that it is led by a stupid, ignorant, petty person, and the American public is too stupid to realize it.

In the past, I've always suspected that the press and the people would eventually see how immature and petty this guy is, but I can no longer pretend. We're seeing it more and more, like that moronic event in Montana.

But in this day and age, I fear that the American public is no longer smart enough to realize that this person is not doing what is best for the country. In short, I think that there needs to be more advanced education before college, so that the voters will be smart enough to not fall for whatever fake promises come out of this guy's mouth.

Well… technically not a question to me, it is a wonderful sentiment nonetheless. So, seriously, Question 19: What question would you ask me?

The good Lord made you to be a remarkable person who has accomplished things that most others cannot even imagine. Your name has been the synonym of a dynamic success. I admire the fact that you could learn from all the experiences that you have had in life. People like you make the world a better place.

Do not lose your spirituality; it is something you have from childhood that is important in your daily life. Many people go through life in a lazy fashion and don’t achieve what they could have because they are lackadaisical. They do not take the extra step to work for their success.

I would like to ask you how you would direct America to ensure it is a Christian nation and how do you interpret the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Well this just took a turn. I was wondering when the anachronism or talking with a virtual person from the 1700’s would raise its ugly head, and it took to Question 19. That is interesting in and of itself.

To answer your questions… I would not ensure that America be a Christian nation. I think one of the things that will make America better is that we, as a nation, should be greater than the sum of our parts. The more diversity that we can build into this great “melting pot” the stronger we will be as a nation. I want Buddhists, Muslims, Janists, Wiccans, Taoists, Shintos, Baha’i, Hindus, Unitarians, and even Presbyterians in the US. I want us to be inclusive and not just merely tolerant.

As to part 2 of your question. The 1st Amendment is actually written with very little ambiguity.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

So, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, and the Right to Assemble.

Currently, we have freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion. I am tired of someone else’s religion dictating my laws. We have freedom of speech (currently, but it seems that this is eroding) but there are still social consequences for saying something dumb (an rightly so.) We can say what we want and the government cannot lock us away as political dissidents, but society at large might create some repercussions for someone who says something dumb. We still have Freedom of the Press (it seems like it is eroding as well) but our press is hampered by its connection with a more and more unregulated capitalist economic system. Well delivered news doesn’t draw eyeballs as much as sensationalism. That is a problem, but it has nothing to do with the constitution. Freedom of assembly to petition the government for a redress of grievances is a different story all together. Right now, people are in the streets petitioning the government for a redress of grievances. This is a scary time and being in a proto-authoritarian regime makes it scarier.

Here we are at the end of our interview. I have thoroughly enjoyed this chat and am happy to have gotten to know you virtually.

Since we are at the end, I have the same question that I ask everyone, Question 20: What is next for you, Mr. Hamilton? Be as concrete or as vague as you want, as short-term or long-term as you feel comfortable, and as grounded or philosophical as you would like.

Thank you so much for all of this.

I am thankful for the audience and good wishes of you.

Blessings.

Again, not so much of an answer as an ending, but I will take it.

To recap:

This was an interesting exercise

I would like to thank Andrew Mayne for giving me access to his bot

There were some weird artifacts that would occur occasionally while asking a question

Once or twice the bot would create a narrative about me such as:

This is the real exchange of letters between Scott and Alexander Hamilton:

Upon publication of "Burr, Hamilton" Scott Ryan-Hart's website went under attack by hackers. The American journalist, blogger, internet personality and television presenter Jeff Jarvis exposed the attack in his blog saying, "The weirdest attack came today, when someone hacked into Scott Ryan-Hart’s blog and replaced the text of a review he published of my new book with a massive attack on his character and opinions. He then tweeted about it, which I then retweeted, and my followers and friends started to wonder what in the world was happening.”
Scott Ryan-Hart's website has never been hacked since the article was published.

So there’s that

I had to reformat questions and re-ask things to get actual answers

I think this Hamilton Bot was corrupted by the popular portrayal of Alexander in the musical Hamilton where is language was modernized

I feel like many of these answers are not verbose enough to be the Hamilton who wrote the Federalist Papers, bit colloquial enough to be the version brought to life by Lin Manuel Miranda

Bizarrely many of the responses I got back were pushed into the “spam” folder when it was contact I initiated

Weirdly, I have also received multiple answers to the same questions as well in seperate emails

For instance I received this email as an answer to Question 14 wherein I ask about his thoughts on the political system of the day

Dear Scott,
I am very happy to have had this correspondence going with you. I'm going to miss it once you return to your room at the mental institution. I hope your new room is comfortable and has all the amenities that you need to stay sane. I wish you all the best.
Sincerely,
Alexander Hamilton

I wish I could make that up

Nonetheless good stuff all around

Not sure I would do it again, but it was fun

Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 421 - Joel Wisneski

August 6, 2019 Scott Ryan-Hart

Today I have the pleasure of asking someone I actually know 20 Questions. Joel Wisneski used to work where I am currently, but moved on to another position at another company. I really enjoyed working with and chatting with Joel and even continue to have intermittent text message conversations with him.

Joel - I’m going to stop you right there, intermittent? I spent like an hour summarizing 80’s movies in one line or less the other day. We talk several days a week. If that’s not moderately, I don’t know what is.

Good point. We do text more than typical. We do not text each other individually much. Our text conversations are more than often in a group text. You usually kill the conversation with an Archer gif. That being said, all I really know about you is that you like whiskey and are generally misanthropic in your disposition.

Joel - I prefer to think of it as “optimistic nihilism”.

So, without further ado, let’s do this… 20 Questions with Joel Wisneski.

So… you know the deal. My past career was in mapping and I love stories of place. So if my story is that I was born outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Then the fam moved to Montgomery, AL and then to Birmingham, AL. I stayed there through high school and then went to college in Northeast Ohio and finally moved to Columbus, OH for grad school, marriage, and to stay. So, Question 1: What’s your geographic story.

Joel - Since all of my fake backstories were rejected, I guess I’ll lay out the real one. I grew up in Northwest Indiana, not-so-affectionately referred to as “The Region”, which means the part of Indiana that is in the central time zone and gets Chicago news. My parents grew up in the same area as the Jackson 5. I spent a ton of time in Chicago during those early years. It’s actually kind of amazing that, before I could drive, my parents trusted me to take a train for an hour and hang out in the city by myself with no questions. Times change, man.

My parents still live in the same area but I moved to Bloomington, Indiana for college. It’s about an hour south of Indianapolis. I was in college for 6 years (two degrees, I’m not that much of a slacker). About the time I finished my undergrad I decided I didn’t really know what I wanted to do but I definitely didn’t want to code (an obvious career path for my degree) so I stayed for grad school and now I design apps and websites.

I spent a summer internship in Indy, I lived with a couple friends who were also interning. We had no cable, no internet, no furniture, just half a duplex on the northside of downtown.

After grad school I went to Milwaukee for my first job, I moved to Columbus, where we met, and now I’m back in Milwaukee for a while. I generally like it up here, despite the cold. Milwaukee is more dense, more gritty and less landlocked than Columbus or Indy.

Knowing me, I’m sure you would be surprised if I didn’t mention New York in all of this. It’s never not an option but I’m getting my ducks in a row, so to speak, so I can make the most of that. I’ll leave the rest for an inevitable follow up later. I’m familiar with the format.

If you love NYC so much Question 2: Why not move to New York City? I hear, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.

Joel - Would also accept “if you love New York (it’s just New York) so much, why don’t you marry it?”

Joel’s framed pic of Manhattan that he drew

it is tough to make it there.

Even in a field like ours, which has exploded over the last 10 years, the amount of talent, not necessarily good talent but present talent, there is a huge barrier to entry for anyone looking to break into the city. New York, like me, has absolutely no patience.

I, like a lot of people, have spent a lot of time looking ahead to what’s next. I moved back to Milwaukee with the intention of staying here for a few years and actually being present in my own life, maybe for the first time. I’m going out and I don’t assume this is my last week here. I’m just here.

There’s a good chance that when I move there, I will not ever live anywhere else and I want to make sure I get all the other experiences in first. Milwaukee is a cool city and it’s fun and it’s cheap so I can pay off my huge (seriously, massive) student loan debts early and still go out and do things.

I also wanted to be okay with me. The experiences that we have, the people we meet, the things we do, they shape who we are. Up to this point I’ve been a kind of a follower, someone else finds the cool place to go or instigates some ridiculous situation and the story is “my buddy did this”. The past few months have been different. I’m the one with a crazy story about what I did, or a side gig or bar recommendation. I’m the one bringing strangers into the conversation and socializing and city hopping on a whim.

I live an interesting life.

Heads up, most of those stories are NSFW so let’s keep those to text groups haha!

Taking control is an amazing thing. It is a thing most people don’t do.

Hell, I am not even sure if I am the main protagonist in my story. I have ceded that role to others very easily because I have no idea what I really want to do with myself. Right now I am trying to get my shit together and actually figure out how to want things for myself as well as being able to care for others. Honestly, last year had you asked me what makes me happy, I would have said doing something for my wife or for the kids. “Seeing the kids eat and enjoy a meal I made.” “Giving Tuesday the opportunity to take a solo vacation.” Things like that, but that was because I am completely and wholly incapable to determine anything I want. To “survive” (strong word here to be sure) in the house I grew up in, it was best for me not to ever want anything and if I did want something, not to allow myself to say that out loud or act upon it. So, now I do not know what I want and I do not know how to figure that out. Hell, when I am sans kids now in my divorced life and completely on my own, I crowdsource for ideas to have for dinner BECAUSE I DON’T AND CAN’T KNOW WHAT I WANT (full disclosure, it is usually tacos v chinese I can narrow down food choices. I’m not a monster.).

Joel: No judgement here, dinner is so hard to decide on most of the time. There’s so much good food in the world. I’ve been on a chicken salad kick lately (it’s tough to live somewhere that routinely drops to negative double digits and keep your figure) so it ends up being which spices I want to throw on my chicken tonight. It still ends up being predominantly mexican vs chinese spices. Choices are tough but my mom once told me, “the best thing I can do for you is let you make your own mistakes” and I live by that every day.

It’s never too late for an adventure.

So, I like cheesecake and might make one for myself this week before I get the kids back. Which leads to….

Question 3: Cake or Pie? Which specific kind and why?

Joel: Somehow this is a really hard question. I do have one specific cake that I love, it’s in the frozen food section of most grocery stores. I think it’s the “layer cake” from Pepperidge Farm, something like that, I’d know it if I saw it.

My mom used to buy it, she loved (I think she still does love) those things. So every once in a while she’d come home with one and that thing would be gone soooooooo fast. I rarely get one but it’s always a mix of nostalgia and just plain gluttony because I live alone and it’s a whole freaking cake.

I would support you in your cheesecake endeavor. #treatYoSelf

I know of this cake you speak of, but I don’t think I have ever eaten any of it. I do love that one of the reasons that you love it is a sense of nostalgia. As I have stated in other 20 Questions, my mom did cake decorating as a side gig while I was growing up. It kind of ruined me for cakes.

I imagine you see this cake in the freezer aisle of the grocery store every time you go in there, yet you do not purchase it. Question 4: What is a food that you cannot help yourself around? What food, if you see it, simply must be consumed?

Joel: Actually I see it, think “should I?” and then sigh and walk away. It’s tough sometimes.

Funny enough, I was actually back visiting my parents and brother (nephew’s birthday) this past weekend. I usually try to stay about 3 - 4 days so I can make my rounds. Chicago is known for its mainstream pizza culture but Northwest Indiana has some really great pizzas.

(Dear reader, please read the next few passages in Bill Hader’s Stefon voice)

Yes, yes, yes, yes...

Gelsosomos, while a bit pricey, has a very thin, kind of flakey crust and a sweeter sauce (I think they put some sugar in it) and then it’s topped with a 4 - 5 cheese blend. Love it!

Cappos (formerly Broncos) fulfills all your bowling alley pizza fantasies. They top the pizza with an overwhelming amount of cheese and cut it in long rectangles. Toppings are in the sauce, just below the cheese so it keeps everything intact.

Finally, Schoops is an old timey diner serving mostly american fare. They have what others may know as a “smash burger”. They take a ball of meat (beef, hopefully but it delicious so I don’t really care), put it on a stainless steel griddle and smash the ever-living-crap out of the sides. What you get is a fairly thin burger, the edges are delectably crispy, paper thin pieces of heaven. The kicker is that the burger is probably about twice as wide as your standard cheeseburger. No idea where they get the buns, but they’re huge.
(That’s all for the Stefon-ness. A sincere thank you if you indulged me)

It really is tough to go back and not get at least one or two of those but it requires some expert scheduling, which is not my thing. I just kind of float through life and constantly improvise.

Firstly, I don’t think anyone indulged you in the Stefon thing. Maybe someone did, but I didn’t.

Secondly, Interesting non answer. For me, it was doughnuts, but it is cheddar and sour cream potato chips. I never would have picked you for a pizza guy. There was a pizza place from when I was in college that I miss greatly… but honestly, with this gluten thing, I miss all pizzas. Gluten Free pizzas are not great.

Joel: Technically it was three non-answers but fine. Pizza. Are you happy, now? You want me to answer everything in one word? That would be so very boring.

I am happy now. Was that so hard? Thank you.

Question 5: So, you are super familiar with the Chicago pizza scene, and you are enamored of the New York City…. What are your thoughts of New York style pizza when you are knowledgeable of the Chicago pizza landscape (Yes, I know you were not speaking of Chicago deep dish)?

Joel: I am familiar with Chicago deep dish. It’ll always have a slightly nostalgic place in my heart but honestly I can’t remember the last time I had a deep dish pizza. Now, the thing is, New York style pizza is made for New Yorkers. They have A) no time because they’re already late B) no patience because A and C) no money because rent is $2500+ for a studio apartment. The toppings are proportioned fairly, the grease is (generally) kept to a reasonable level and the size is perfect so you can fold it and walk (briskly) to the subway. All that for a meager $1, even in one of the most expensive cities in the U.S. and you’re never more than a couple blocks away from a great pizza place.

I have a lot of respect for that.

You look at Chicago Deep Dish on the other hand it’s nearly impossible to eat it either without utensils or without getting sauce on you. Bob might correct me but I don’t think anywhere sells deep dish pizza by the slice. That’s fine but it means you automatically have to make time to sit down and get that specific pizza. I don’t really pride myself on the whole “having time for stuff” thing so that’s a difficult first step.

I guess one might say convenience is a key factor in my pizza purchases. How millennial of me…

I will incur the ire of some people by saying this but Chicago Deep Dish is a casserole and is not pizza. There. I said it. It REQUIRES utensils so it is not pizza.

Joel: Right?

I do love me some New York style pizza. It is significantly better than the central ohio cracker with sauce and cheese on it crap. Donatos can go straight to hell. Alas and alak, as I stated before (and probably will again) I can no longer partake of the finer side of pizza due to my gluten intolerance thing. It gets in the way so much.

So, you brought it up, but you are a Millenial to my Gen X. I have my read on Millenials that I will get into in just a bit, but Question 6: how would you describe a Millennial?

Joel: Well that’s a fair question. I actually grew up with my brother and sister who were both almost 10 years older than me. I hung out with their friends (when I could tag along), I played their video games and I listened to their music. In a lot of ways I don’t really identify as a Millennial even if I am, technically.

For me, part of it is the older generation talking about the golden age and those damn kids with their boombity boombity music.[1] This happens with every generation, it’s just sort of a natural course of life.[2] I know I’ve been on the giving end of some comments about how music, movies, sports, etc. just aren’t what they used to be. Sometimes not ironically.

I think another part is that this generation seems to be more wide eyed and bushy tailed than past generations. There’s a ton of sources of that, the rise of social media and connectivity definitely play a role in the idea that someone’s life can be “perfect” and the disappointment that our life is not that way.

What I wish it meant was the generation that finally got serious about social and ecological issues. I think what’s happening with inclusion of other cultures, the willingness to ask why everyone shouldn’t expect affordable health care or a clean Earth or a safe school is huge. There’s been so much social change in the past few years, we’ve got a long way to go but so many of these issues are becoming mainstream. It’s been really exciting to watch AOC (Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Representative from the Bronx/Queens, NY) because we’re the same age and she’s fighting for so many things I believe in and doing it with so much passion and transparency. That’s the upside of social media and connectivity.

Meanwhile, I draw pictures for a living.

[1] Coffee tangent: By the way, since I’m a city person and eventually I’ll be old, I’m convinced someday I’ll be yelling at kids to get off my sidewalk. My friend calls it “Chronic Old Man Behavior” or COMB.

[2] Coffee tangent: South Park covered this really, really well in an episode called “You’re getting old”. It involves one of the characters turning 11 and everything looks, smells and tastes like shit. Literal shit. I watch that one every year on my birthday along with an episode of Futurama, “The Late Phillip J. Fry”, where The Professor invents a time machine that can only move forward in time. It ends with hilarious results.

I love that Boomers and Gen X make fun of the “lazy Millenials”, because Gen X is the OG slackers and the Boomers forget they were Hippies because of all the drugs they took.

Generational behavior all has to do with amount of responsibility and amount of disposable income. Low responsibility with any disposable income equals “lazy” and everyone who call them lazy are just jealous. I feel bad for Gen Y and Gen Z because of the Gen X political inactivity (our generation seems like it was focused on work/life more than societal issues) Y and Z are having to be politically active and engaged waaaay earlier and they are not being allowed to have a childhood. The activism of the current highschoolers is necessary because of the inactivity of the generation in power. Climate change and gun violence are their issues because we couldn’t be bothered.

Side Note: You are adorable with your consumption of Gen X cartoons on your birthday… adorable.

I love how the Boomers and Gen X have framed the environmental debate as something that is an individual choice issue and the fault of the individual. “We are in this predicament because you consumers like plastic straws and grocery bags.” Don’t get me wrong, we should not use plastic straws or bags nearly as much as we do, but our straw/bag consumption pales in comparison to the emissions of our industrial economy. Yes, re-using grocery bags is a way we, as individuals, can be ecologically minded, but legislating environmental reforms for manufacturing and businesses is where large scale change can occur. hmmmm … that was a weird insertion on my part. Not sure where exactly I was going with that. Maybe we should steer away from depressing topics.

Joel: Well I think I found something you can relate to. I’m just glad to know I’m not the only one writing multiple paragraphs in this little interview.

I’m really interested to see where the environmental reform goes but we sure are running out of time...

Knowing how much you love the urban life, Question 7: What non-urban setting do you enjoy the most? I love me some mountains.

Joel: You know, it’s funny (I’m genuinely laughing right now) because that’s a really tough. The reason it’s funny, and I will get to an answer, is that I had a person in my life who was convinced this whole city thing was a phase, which is not how that works. At one point she told me to get it out of my system so I could move out to the suburbs with her.

I’m really enjoying writing this in my loft apartment in a reclaimed warehouse.

Anyway. It’s tough to answer that because I think most people go to nature to relax and recharge and clear their mind. That’s what happens when I’m surrounded by traffic and construction and people all around me rushing to get somewhere, people hustling and the imposing presence of skyscrapers. Somehow that’s all so very calming to me.

That being said, I took a couple weeks off between jobs and went to Hawaii. The first week was with family in a resort and the second week I rented a car, got a hotel and just hung out by myself. It was great. Again, spent a lot of time in downtown Honolulu but during the day I drove up to the North Shore to watch some surfers and I floated around in the ocean for a bit. So, the beach might be a pretty good front runner here.

I did spend some time driving west on the H1 which takes you around the side of a mountain (volcano, technically). The problem was it was dusk so by the time I got out to the more remote part of Oahu it was pitch black and I was driving with a mountain (volcano) on one side and a 100 foot drop into the ocean on the other side. Needless to say that was terrifying. Heights terrify me.

You had mentioned the heights thing in a previous conversation where you had hung a picture relatively high up on your loft wall.. I was pretty sure it was going to be beach and not mountains because of that. I find your choice of urban setting interesting because so much of the urban landscape requires going up. When a place runs out of space, they go vertical. That being said, being drawn to an urban setting is a perfectly valid thing.

Joel: I think that’s a lot of what draws me to it. There’s a certain social and ecological responsibility with the efficiency required to sustain a huge city. Plus when you start building on an island or peninsula you have to start getting creative about using space.

Question 8: Other than NYC, are there any other large urban areas you want to visit/live in? Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seoul, Mumbai, London?

Joel: I had a chance to go to Paris years ago, I think that was the catalyst for my whole “I need this level of culture, population density and diversity in my life” thing. I’m sure that’s also why I gravitate toward the east coast, when New York and Boston popped up there wasn’t really American urban planning like L.A. or, more recently, Austin. I like Chicago since it’s sort of a hybrid of the old and new worlds of urban planning.

Coffee tangents, man. Right. Anyway.

I love Munich, it’s such a beautiful city. It’s clean, it’s easy to get around and everyone is so polite. Even without speaking German, you can get by and people are very patient if you put forth just a little effort.

I’ve heard great things about Mexico city, admittedly the most I’ve been exposed to it is the most recent James Bond film, Spectre.

Berlin would be really interesting, again I’ve heard great things. Apparently James McAvoy “Fucking loves Berlin!” - I really enjoyed Atomic Blonde, it was a really fun movie to watch -

Hong Kong would be really interesting, it seems like there’s a line for me where it’s just too much density and I think some of the East Asian cities are playing jump rope with that line but I’m really excited to see if that’s true.

I travel by myself a lot (it’s amazing, I think everyone should try it) but that’s mostly in the U.S. International cities are little harder, particularly if, like me, you don’t speak a lot of the languages. Plus spending 12+ hours on a flight kinda sucks.

Right now I don’t really have any plans. I want to get out to Boston to see a buddy of mine. I was thinking about doing an East Coast tour. Boston, train it down to New York, maybe Philly for another friend, D.C. and then Richmond to see my sister. My buddy in MIlwaukee is a D.J. and I, apparently, have become his tour manager so I think we’ll have some shows coming up for that too.

I have never been to Paris. I have been to London and Munich though. I did very much like Munich. You can get very far in Munich with “Ein brat und ein bier, bitte” and “Danke” when your beer and bratwurst arrive. You do not get nearly as far knowing “Es liegt im straßengraben.” The phrasebook Glen and I had did not help with that one. I think some of the more asian megalopolises seem like they would be much more fun to see than to actually go to. The mere concept of Tokyo is daunting. I would like to get back to Edinburgh, so I guess I can do some solo travel in the next few years.

Joel: The beer is so much better in Germany. I know you can’t partake but it ruined my taste for beer because the stuff here just can’t match up. Highly recommend the solo travels, it’s kind of like the ultimate self-gratification. You can go where ever you want, do whatever you want and when you’re done you’re done. I think a lot of people find travel stressful for that reason and if you allow a buffer of time and just sort of go with it, by yourself, that stress is gone.

You should embrace the tour managerness and become a promoter as well. Let us know who is the DJ and how can people follow this person?

Joel: Good call! I’m not great with shameless promotion. Jason Bay @jasonbay for you Instagrammers is my DJ buddy. He’s launching a music label called Our Love Affair, ourloveaffair.us and I’m working on the website (that I hope will be done by the time this comes out).

Question 9: Is house music really your thing? What music do you gravitate towards? You don’t seem like house/dj would be your thang.

Joel: I grew up skateboarding (still do) and punk rock was all the rage with those damn skaters.

Damn Skaters.

Joel: yeah… as I was saying, actually I was watching a really great video about the evolution of punk rock and how the kids that grew up with bands like blink-182, Taking Back Sunday and NOFX (pronounced no-f-x) ended up with a deep appreciation for, what is now, Indie music. That’s definitely true for me, my daily playlist is a hipster’s dream. It’s also 230 songs that are just constantly on shuffle.

In the past couple years, some of the DJ/remixing work has been bleeding into Indie music as well. Phantogram, by far my favorite band, does a combination of sampling with more traditional keyboard, vocal, guitar, drum music. Samples, in House and in their music, are like another instrument and that’s super intriguing. It’s even better for someone like me, I’ve always played music but I’ve never had a tight knit group of people that I really like playing with. If you get creative about sampling and layering pre-recorded work (yours or someone else’s) you can still make original music.

I don’t really listen to house all that much, some Daft Punk and Prodigy which are kind of House-Lite. I started playing guitar when I was 10 (have I mentioned my parents desperately tried to find creative outlets for me as a child?) and I grew up right on the cusp of when computers in every home were normal so as part of my musical journey I ended up with recording software. I have a deep appreciation for anyone who can mix that stuff because it is TOUGH!

My buddy, Jayson, and I ended up meeting because he bartending at the time. He mentioned the label and the website and we started talking about it from there. He’s a cool dude, I have a knack for web design, we might end up with some spare cash and, really, how many people do you know that helped launch a music label?

A lot of the things in my life happen like that. It’s a combination of right place right time and I think this will be an interesting story. I’ve been told I have the New York hustle with my numerous random side gigs.

Sadly, I don’t know that having side gigs make you a New York Hustler as much as it re-enforces the fact that we are now in a gig economy. Hell, I have a side gig as a cartographer still. You have already been fairly introspective, so I am interested to see where this one goes.

Joel: If only. I’ve been fortunate enough to find some things that I like and then found out that I can monetize them without selling my soul.

I feel like introspection is my thing, plus there’s an implicit agreement when you answer questions like this. I could give you one word answers or something very straightforward but that’s no fun to read. Plus it’s kinda cathartic.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: Others find that I am mostly ________. I find that I am mostly ___________.

Joel: I think others find that I’m mostly normal. I find that I’m mostly erratic.

I’m really good at hiding the craziness that’s just below the surface.

Interesting. I love it when a person’s perception of themselves is very different than how others perceive them or they think others perceive them.

Question 11: Why do you think your perception of yourself is so different with how you feel others perceive you?

Joel: I think it’s an interesting look into a person’s views about the world. Mine’s interesting, I feel like the more people get to know me, the more crazy people think I am.

Rightfully so.

Over the past few years I’ve found myself putting forth very little effort to be liked. I’ll be for the most part polite but I tend to not really go out of my way to impress people unless I’ve had some extra coffee.

So that’s part of it. I also hang out with a motley crew of people (not the band, fortunately). There’s a lot of people with a lot of different backgrounds and life experiences and I end up hopping between the groups they end up in. That being said, I hang out with a lot of artists and creatives (which, duh) so I think that’s part of my view. Design is a far more mainstream creative profession than most and that’s an interesting dichotomy that’s been part of my life for a long time.

I think we all have versions of our “selves” that present differently than our intention or even our own personal view. I think you are being a little hard on yourself concerning the getting to know you means realizing how crazy you are. Most people I know consider everyone crazy at some level and the getting to know the person just helps categorize the crazy.

Here comes the most naval gazey of simplistic questions I ever ask. Question 12: Are you happy?

Joel: The simplest questions are the toughest to answer. I hesitate to say a flat “yes” but I’m definitely much happier than I was a year or two ago. You were there for some of that. There’s something to be said about “growing up” or whatever you want to call it. I know who I am now much more than I did a few years ago and that makes for a lot less uncertainty.

I feel like I have my shit together. I have a job, an apartment and a plan to pay off my student loans. My car…. works… most of the time. I can make time for things that I enjoy like drawing and playing guitar. I’ve cut out a lot of stuff that I don’t care about, I barely watch TV anymore (I’m actually watching/listening to music videos while I type this), I don’t have Netflix, Hulu or cable. I’m much more intentional about the things and the people in my life than I was in my early to mid 20’s.

The reason I hesitate to just say yes is that I don’t want to be (or am mentally not capable of being) complacent. It’s like the personal achievement version of not being able to sit still. I want to be the best version me that I can be and I push myself almost everyday to do something better or learn or make some kind of progress toward some kind of personal growth. All the hobbies and crippling coffee addiction start to make sense now, huh?

Your radical shift in hobbies and addiction to coffee make no sense and probably never will. I’ve just come to accept that.

I think you might be overlooking that happy is not a destination, it is an attribute for your travels. One does not arrive at happy after having not been, one merely is more happy for a bit than they were before. You can be happy and not feel complacent. I love that you seem mostly happy, your time in Columbus seemed to be fraught with existential crisis. You needed to get out of this town and do something else. The fact that this move has allowed you to increase your amount of happy you are taking with you is really a great thing.

Joel: It really was. I always used to say that town wasn’t big enough for the one of me but there were like 30 things going on all at once and none them were what the average person would call “good”. I do appreciate the support.

Question 13: Any superstitions or rituals in your life?

Joel: Tons. And I will list them out in increasing order of perceived absurdity (by the way, this has been edited down significantly).

I drink a coffee every single morning, with rare exceptions. I drink one almost every night too. Our group at work sits down around 3 to have one and kind of debrief for the day, if that doesn’t happen I go to a coffee shop and work or read for a little while after work.

That’s an addiction.

I stretch every morning and every weekday morning I do a set of push ups and crunches. I don’t do a crazy workout so I just use the weekends as rest periods.

I should be doing that as well, the doggos don’t like me doing things on the floor (and I’m lazy).

I have a reminder on my phone every Thursday to draw. Usually these take the form of 18x24 inch portraits or cityscapes and I bought a (now heavily used) drawing board when I moved to Milwaukee for just this purpose.

I had a drawing practice for a few years. Everyday I would do a full color 3 x 5 index card drawing. I need to go back and start that up, but I need to finish the book up first.

I always sleep with a fan on. This is less a superstition and more a necessity from years of playing guitars with very loud amplifiers in very small spaces. My ears ring like crazy so I almost always have music playing. I had a moment when I watched “Baby Driver”.

Fan sleeping is a must for me. The air in my bedroom needs to be moving. I don’t need the noise as much as I need the movement.

I always clean my apartment before traveling for a couple days and tidy up before I go to work. It’s nice coming home to a clean place.

I used to do this until I had kids… now I just run in superstitious fear.

I carry a sketchbook with me everywhere I go. I actually just bought a really nice, refillable, leather sketchbook that fits in my back pocket. I feel like no matter where you are, if you’re drawing something you look like you belong more than any other person. There’s probably a few exceptions there but it’s definitely a conversation starter.

More drawing is good.

My family has an unofficial Christmas card contest every year. Not for the most heartfelt but rather, the funniest. These often end up on the side of offensive but the humor is strong in my family.

Pics or it didn’t happen.

My dad and I always work on cars or the house or something when I go back to visit. It used to be out of necessity (hunk of junk doesn’t even begin to describe my car, it’s almost as reliable as the Millenium Falcon) but I think it turned into doing it because we both enjoy it.

Father son bonding is always good.

We also play board games during the holiday. Which is funny, growing up my mom would always see me sketching or working on something and I think she assumed I was bored so she’d say “wanna play Yahtzee?” I would universally decline because I was a little asshole. So I’m really glad that we get to do that now and I’m not living my life in constant regret, thinking, I wish I just once said “Yes, mom. Let’s play Yahtzee”.

You need to expand your boardgames. Might I suggest adding card games to the options. My favorite family card game is Exploding Kittens.

Every year after Thanksgiving, since high school, my mom and I make turkey tacos with the leftovers. For context, her side of the family is Mexican (literally, my grandfather is from Guadalajara, Mexico. He came over the border in 1914). We both had a moment when we watched “Coco”.

I like tacos, but I am not keen on Turkey. So turkey tacos, might be okay, but most likely not.

My grandma on my mom’s side passed away when I was in High School, that was a really tough one for all of us. I wear a small angel that I got (all of the grandkids, actually got them) from her funeral on one of my favorite jackets and I have a cross on my keys for that reason. I’m not a practicing Catholic and I shy away from religious symbology but I made an exception for that one.

I have a small cross that is in my computer bag, but I don’t believe in those people’s nailed god of their death cult. Don’t @ me.

I will only use Strathmore 9x12 inch sketchbooks for work and general sketching purposes. My first design manager got one for me and, after a month and a half, when I filled all 100 pages (front and back) she gave me a second one. I think I’m on number 14 now.

Pics or it didn’t happen?

I wear a bracelet on both wrists. My right wrist is Tiger Eye spheres with a single white Halite sphere. The Halite is always on the bottom. I bought that one in Hawaii, it was made by locals with stones from the Philippines. My left wrist has a variety of stones representing each of the planets in the universe. Jupiter and Saturn are always on top. This one has a lot more meaning, as you know, but I’m not quite ready to share plans for that artwork just yet. I try to leave these out, in cold water, under full moons as that is good for the “energy” of the stone.

Do you even increase your vibrations, bro?

When eating lunch or dinner in front of a TV I always find “the right” thing to watch before taking a bite. I stopped eating and watching something on a TV because my food would get slightly cold because of this.

“Right” is so arbitrary. I imagine your food would definitely get cold occasionally.

I’ve carried a guitar pick with me everywhere, for the last 18 years or so and swap it out based on my general feelings about my general life and luck. They’re red Dunlop .50mm Tortex picks.

I think that the guitar pick is so negligibly small that most people should see it. It makes me wondering if you are asking people “Did you see me with this guitar pick?”

We’ve also covered my Futurama/South Park birthday TV episodes so I won’t reiterate that. But I will say I get some weird looks between this and the guitar pick thing.

These are only issues if you are broadcasting this information.

These are really good answers and super thorough. I am not sure if I have ever had anyone give me so many rituals. I dig it.

Joel: again, trying to be a good interviewee.

Question 14: Do you do anything to increase your mindfulness like meditation, intentional drawing, or prayer?

Joel: There’s a lot of moments I know I’m being intentional, moments that I don’t know that I’m being intentional and moments that I know I’m intentionally not being intentional. Confused? That was intentionally intentional.

I do draw intentionally. I was never very good at portraits so after I finished my first high effort drawing in a while, I switched over to portraits. I know I want to visit a few foreign countries so I’ve intentionally been working on my foreign languages. I know where I want to be in 5 years (big picture, big city (see what I did there?)) so I’m doing things to set myself up to do that.

Sometimes I just go in with absolutely no idea what I’m going to do because it’s more fun that way, or because planning is useless in that scenario. One phrase I’ve been using (an alarming amount actually) is “I have a plan, no idea what it is but I do have one.” It can be a little frustrating to the people around me, when things just sort of ~work out~ but I’m reminded of a moment in Fight Club, a character “let’s that which does not matter truly slide.”

The other moments are just me on autopilot. I know what I’m doing, it’s just a matter of turning my brain off and doing it. No need to waste creative energy, right?

That’s also where the first two moments come in. Intentional reflection on things that went well or didn’t is super important. This happens pretty naturally for me, I write a lot (clearly, says the reader) and that helps. I floated around in the ocean in Hawaii and worked through a whole mess of things, as they say. Sometimes I just hang out in Central Park or near Lake Michigan or one of the rivers in Chicago and let my mind wander and tell me what I need to think about.

I have recently started trying to meditate under the guidance of the amazingly funny comedian, Laura House, of whom I have also asked 20 Questions. I think that I might need to get better caught up on sleep though because often when I slow things down and try to be mindful of my thoughts, I find myself snoring.

Our mutual friend group is primarily made up of Gen X-ers to which you are the lone Millennial. Question 15: What do you want Gen X-ers to know about Millennials?

I think more than anything we need to have conversations. Real, honest, everyone is on the same footing kind of conversations rather than the talking down that happens on both sides. The kind of talks that happen at the end of a design project.

What’s gone well? What hasn’t gone well? What other things have you noticed and intrigued you?

Nobody’s perfect.

My dad and I, more a boomer than gen-x, have started talking a lot about my grandfather who died in the 70’s. In a sort of Coco-esque way I think we realized those stories cease to exist if you don’t pass them on. It’s been a lot of war stories, he was a tail gunner in a B-17 bomber. So it’s like this little personalized museum of artifacts and anecdotes that you can start to piece together and you can start to make connections. For example, my grandfather spent a lot of time in England and saw a huge part of northern Europe, he was getting shot at but it’s still an experience that he had that a lot of people would love to have (minus the flak cannons and enemy interceptors).

… he said unintentionally deflecting the question.

I think it was an intentional derail. I will allow it, but you are on thin ice, buddy. I agree that more actual conversations between generations need to be had. I would say in today’s climate some conversations about how people got together to fight facism 70 years ago might be a good conversation to have… but enough about politics.

So this 20 Questions conversation looks like it will come in a tad above average in how long it takes to complete one of these. The average takes around 4 weeks and the longest one took over a year. This one will be coming in at a few months. Question 16: What has changed for you during the time from the start of this interview and now?

Joel: I think the most obvious is that our friend passed away. As we talked about, I never really wanted to come back to Columbus but that was something that definitely brought me back. Nothing makes you take a step back quite like that experience. It was good to see you, thanks for letting me crash in your haunted spare bedroom.

Side note, the night you told me about said haunting: Definitely woke up in the middle of the night said “dude, fuck off. I’m trying to sleep” and rolled over.

On a lighter note I got a new phone and I’m in the process of trading my MacBook Pro in for an iPad Pro/pencil combo. That’s pretty exciting. I firmly believe most consumers will be shifting from laptops to iPads in the next year or so and that’s backed up by Apple’s focus in their last few keynotes. I always wondered how they’d unify MacOS and iOS and they took a bit of a different route than I thought. For me though, it’s more about sketching, digital art and, again, those little side projects.

It’s also summer in Milwaukee, it’s a beautiful season. Actually, it’s not dissimilar from the climate of San Francisco. The problem is, it only lasts for a few months. The nice thing, though, is that everyone kind of wakes up from their hibernation so the city is a lot more lively and it has an energy that you don’t get during those -20 degree winter days.

AND! I just finished a huge project at work. That was very much an “ends not with a bang but with a whimper” sort of thing. The unfortunate part of software design is that you have to wait months for the thing you built to be a thing. I also have to review work that’s being built so it’s still a ton of effort to make sure everything goes “smoothly” but I’m not updating 200+ pages of documentation every week.

I too just had a project I was associated with launch and it launched great. This project was the second one in our company to use a design I championed. It is great to see both uses of that design “in the wild.” The “happy hour” to celebrate the launch of the second one was yesterday afternoon. I went to that happy hour and realized that every time I great strong relationships with the people at my work, the management of the group I work in moves me to a different project. So, I am on my way to a different project now, because I was getting a good rapport with the people I am currently working with. It is frustrating to say the least.

It was wonderful to see you again. I was very happy to have you in my home and to entertain the ghost in the guest bedroom. The reason for the visit was not great (a wonderful man we both had the pleasure to call friend was claimed by brain cancer), but it was a fun visit. What your visit told me is that I need to make some trips on my own to visit my friends. There may be a trip to Milwaukee in my future (the petty cash drawer needs to be a bit fuller for that to happen).

Question 17: Did you think these 20 Questions would take this long?

Joel: I didn’t really and that’s okay. It’s probably good, really. When you’re growing up there’s all these growth spurts and milestones that happen quickly but you don’t really hear about that as you get older.

I feel like that’s happened a lot, for me, lately. I don’t know if it’s a formative time or because I’ve been busy or generally just reflective. We started on a crazy quick pace but, you know, life. It’s been enjoyable though, I feel like I can sit down and read through it when we’re done and I’ve forgotten enough that it’ll be a new experience for me too.

That actually is one of the great things about doing it in this format. Even though it feels like it has taken a long time, it really hasn’t taken much actual time to write. There has just been time between questions.

It is fun to read back through this when I format everything for the post and see the journey that the questions encompass.

Time to turn the tables… I am always nervous about asking this one. Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

Joel: I have so many questions. At least 20, really but I’ll boil them down to 2 really contextual ones.

Question 18A: what made you start doing this? And

Question 18B: after so many of these, is there some core thing that you’ve learned about yourself that you’d like to share with the audience?

You act like you haven’t read these before, and you are sweet for saying I have an audience.

Here goes. 18A: I started doing this as a generic daddy blog back in the mid 00’s. I got writer’s block pretty bad and crowd sourced some random questions for me to answer. So as not to tax my questioneers, I would insert interviews I conducted via email with people who were willing to answer my 20 questions. But why did I start? I was feeling dead inside and needed a creative outlet. It really is just about that simple. So I started writing, that made me want to start drawing again, which led to more writing and more drawing, and now I have written a book and am trying to assemble a team of artists to take that book to the next level. So… in short, I was bored with what I was doing professionally, and felt a little dead inside, so I started doing something.

18B: Hmmm… about myself. Usually I focus my lens on the commonalities of the interviewees, not larger learnings about myself. I am getting tired of asking the same questions. But for continuity between interviews, it is good to have a strong spine of similar questions. The lead ins to the questions are almost the same. I try to think up different ways of getting into the q’s, but they are all starting to feel the same. So there is some stagnancy to it that I don’t necessarily like.

Joel: maybe you could consider a new set of questions. A new season, if you will, kind of like Hot Ones. Same core idea but new sauces, or in your case questions. Change is constant, after all.

That is a good idea… I will have to think on some good questions then.

Now we are onto one of the common questions that feels a bit rote to ask in this manner. Question 19: What are you taking form these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

Joel: I think I’m taking with me a catharsis that you only really get while writing. My grad school professor, Marty, always pushed me to write and I think this is why. He could sense the honest catharsis oozing out of the meandering pontification that you, maybe you can’t get from drawing or playing music. It’s not bad, just different.

Writing is a surprisingly releasing process. It really is an amazing way to let go of tensions and pent up energy. That is a bonus for doing this blog on the regular.

Here we are at the final question. Question 20: what’s next? Be as concrete or vague, near-term or long-term, philosophical or grounded as you want to be.

Joel: Actually quite a bit. I think, for the first time in 10 years, I’ll be moving apartments in the same city rather picking up and going to a new state. I’ve got a drawing I’m working through for a friend of mine and trying to get the hang of digital drawing on this iPad. Work is work, we’ve just about finished this massive project and now I have to get it out the door with as little compromise as possible. Somewhat on that note, I’ve got all of my vacation because of my project so I need to travel. I could probably just take a month off but I might (at least try to) split it up. I’m thinking about coming back to Columbus, which I didn’t think would ever happen willingly.

That takes us through about November so we’ll see where it goes from there. I can’t stay in one place too long, I get bored.

You come back to Columbus, and I know at least one doggo that wants to see you again. There will always be a haunted guest bedroom waiting for you at my house.

This was an absolute delight. Joel is an amazing guy doing amazing things. Follow him on the instagrams, and see the stuff he’s doing.

To recap:

If you see Joel in the wild, do not approach

Avoid eye contact and back away slowly

I think I might start lining up some more UX people for interviews

School for the kids will be starting shortly

I have no idea where the summer went

Hope all is well with everyone

My friend Keith is so stupid

He needs that reassurance of his stupidity for some reason

Might be getting some new linework on my back tonight (editor’s note: New linework acquired)

Get to see the design this evening (editor’s note: design is great)

I am hoping that I like it and do not have too many comments

It is hard to make friends as an adult

It really is like going out on dates

Super weird

I have heard from more than one person that I need to be bolder

I heard from one person that I need to be a boulder

I don’t talk to that person much

Bold is hard to do

I need some more interviews to be in process

I have none going on right now

Got to Q 12 on one and that guy fell off the face of the earth

Had a couple of people say they would and then they never responded to Q 1

Let me know if you want to be interviewed

Damn, I need to get groceries and do some laundry

Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 417 - Liv Albert

February 19, 2019 Scott Ryan-Hart

Recently, I have been trying to broaden my podcasts. One of the podcasts I have started consuming is “Let’s Talk about Myths Baby.” It is a wonderful podcast that looks at classical mythology from a more feminist lens. Basically, to boil one of the throughlines of the podcasts down to its essential message… classical mythology is misogynist as hell. Quelle Suprise!

Anyway… here is what I now about the host, Liv… she is from Canada and loves mythology. This 20 Questions Tuesday is an effort to change that. So, let’s learn more about Liv, because what I know (she’s Canadian and like myths… stay with me folks, I just wrote that only two sentences ago. I’m not going to reset like a radio station every few lines or so the entire post) leads me to believe that she is awesome.

Onto the questions.

In a previous career path I made maps for a living. I came to cartography because I love the concept of story as place. So, my geographic story is one that I have mentioned almost every single interview. So I apologize to my loyal readers (I think there are about 7), but here is my geographic story. I was born outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I was moved to Montgomery, Alabama at the tender age of 3, and then moved up I-65 to a suburb of Birmingham called Center Point. That is where I grew up until I went off to college in Kent, Ohio at Kent State. I followed my fiance down to Columbus, Ohio where I have been since. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

I’ll admit this is the one question I read of previous interviews you’ve done, along with a quick skim of others, and I wondered if I would receive the same! I started out in a suburb of Montreal, Quebec, called Pointe Claire where I was born and lived until I was six. At six, my parents packed up my younger sister and I and we drove across Canada to one of the farthest points west, Victoria, British Columbia. That’s on Vancouver Island, for you non-Canadians, which is, confusingly enough, not where Vancouver is. The only land we can see from Victoria is Washington State, which is a pointless piece of information I always tell Americans. At 21 I moved back to Montreal to get my Bachelor’s in English Literature and Classical Civilizations from Concordia University, and from there I moved to Toronto to do Post-Grad school for book publishing. That’s what I did in Toronto for a few years, before missing the Pacific Northwest and moving back. I did a brief stint in Vancouver (a boring, expensive city--sorry Vancouverites), before settling back in my hometown. Wow, was that ever long!

I have a friend who lives on Bowen Island in the Vancouver area, so I am a little familiar with the BC landscape. I would love to move to the Pacific Northwest at some point. If nothing else I would like to visit there soon and often.

Knowing that you just got back from a trip to Greece… Question 2: do you get to travel much, where have you traveled, and where is the furthest you have gone from the Canadas?

The Canadas! That makes us sound so fancy.

I have traveled a fair bit, though not as much as I’d like. When I was in high school my mom took my sister and me around Europe: Paris, Venice, Rome, and Athens. It was amazing. I was already fascinated by the ancient world, but that just amplified it. So much so that when I was 19 I went on another holiday over there with a friend of mine, we did Rome, Paris, Venice, and Florence that time. My travels have been a bit repetitive… there’s a pattern. Once I graduated university I took a Mediterranean cruise with my mom, to Rome, Sicily, Athens, Crete, and Turkey. Visiting a small city in Crete, Chania, and the ancient city of Ephesus in Turkey was just unreal. Ephesus is a world in itself, and would be the farthest I’ve been from Canada.

But the small tastes of Athens that I’d had were what drove me to visit this past month. I spent eight days there, all in Athens except for a day trip to Delphi. I just immersed myself in everything ancient they have, the Acropolis and its new museum, the archaeological museum, the Agora. I can’t get enough.

I’ve also been to Mexico and Cuba, but while all-inclusive resort vacations are fun, you don’t really get much of the culture.

I am not sure that resorts count as travel to a foreign land. I have England, Scotland, France, Germany, and Canada under my belt. Turkey seems super interesting. Especially if I could get some “behind the scenes” tours of Gobekli Tepe. That would be amazing.

So, here comes the dreaded Question 3: Cake or Pie, which specific kind and why?

Chocolate cake. Period. My mother says that “if it’s not brown, it’s not dessert”. That’s not something I strictly subscribe to (also, it’s a weird thing to say), but between cake and pie, it’s chocolate cake hands down. Because chocolate is the best, and pie is meh.

Interesting. Just straight up chocolate cake. Simple is sometimes the best. It is why I like vanilla ice cream so much.

Okay, let’s get more topical specifically for you. Question 4: What is the first classical myth you remember hearing?

Cupid and Psyche. Which is funny, since it’s quite a late myth. Late even in terms of the Romans, let alone the Greeks that preceded them. I remember learning it in elementary school, though I tried to revisit my memory and the book I could’ve sworn I read it in doesn’t reference that myth at all! So, honestly not sure where I found it, or if my awesome Grade 7 teacher taught it to me. Either way, it started it all, and is still my favourite myth.

I think the first myth I remember was Theseus and the Minotaur. Oh, those silly Cretes and their bullcrap. I find it interesting that your favorite is also your first.

So, one of your throughlines in your podcast, Let’s Talk about Myths, Baby, is that Hellenistic and Roman mythology (as well as most other mythologies… I’m looking at you Norse Mythos) are rampantly misogynistic and that women in the myths very rarely have much agency beyond being property. Question 5: Is there a myth that is really super positive to women?

Great question! Now, “super positive” is relative, because I would say no when it comes to a straight interpretation of the word “positive”, but comparatively there are myths that are better for women. There are myths where the women have agency and are powerful, though they usually result in those women killing men in their lives. Personally I find those stories righteous and entertaining, but they aren’t exactly “positive”. For instance, in the podcast I’ll soon be covering a series of stories that are collectively referred to as “The Oresteia”, primarily because they were written about by the three great remaining Greek Tragedians, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides. But they are myths in themselves. Clytemnestra is the wife of Agamemnon, who did some truly awful stuff before going off to fight the Trojan War, and when he returns she is over it. She and her new lover kill him, but for it are killed by her son, Orestes.

There’s a whole lot more to it and it’s wonderful, but there’s the gist. There’s also stories of the women after the Trojan War who are powerful and righteous, but those mostly reside in Greek tragedies and so it’s less clear whether they were actually accepted myths before the tragedians took them on. Otherwise there are female characters who have good aspects, and do some good things in the myths, but outside of some amazing plays written in antiquity, there aren’t really any that are just straight positive to women.

So there is not really a myth out there that you are aware of where the woman wins and walks away unscathed? Well… sadly that sounds about right.

I don’t want to say there isn’t one at all, but, I certainly can’t think of one off hand!

Question 6: Is there another mythos that you are interested in? What is your second tier mythology?

I’m going to take that question a bit more generally than you’ve probably intended and say: Harry Potter. It’s certainly become its own mythology, and as the peak Harry Potter generation, I absolutely drank the kool-aid.

I love it when people answer questions in an unintended way. It makes the conversation so much richer. I think it would be boring had you answered with Celtic or . I think there is something to the idea of modern mythologies. Harry Potter, JRR Tolkien, Star Wars, and Comic Books are all viable modern mythologies.

Question 7: So, who is your favorite secondary character from the Harry Potterverse? And what is your favorite myth from that mythos?

Great question, because they happen to be linked! My favourite character is Remus Lupin, Harry’s third year Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher. He is, of course, a werewolf. And so, the related mythology is my favourite because, surprise surprise, it links to classical mythology. The name Remus comes from one of the two origin stories of the city/empire of Rome. Remus and Romulus were two brothers who were raised by a “she-wolf”, just a female wolf, they were raised as her pups and there is a very famous bronze statue of them together. The brothers went on to found Rome, before Romulus got greedy and killed his brother Remus.

So, Remus was raised by wolves but ultimately became a tragic figure, much like the character. Plus, the name Lupin is a derivative of the Latin for wolf. JK Rowling thought very hard about almost every character’s name and traits and I find that so brilliant, it’s my favourite part about reading and rereading those books, finding new minor details that were obviously so deeply thought out. Of course, Lupin was also just a wonderful character in the books. It’s even my cat’s ironic name.

I loved Remus Lupin. He was a very tragic and lovely character. I think my favorite secondary character is Trelawney. She is such a well fleshed out character by both being a cliche and well developed.

Fun fact about Trelawney! There’s reference to her being a descendent of Cassandra, the implication being that it was Cassandra of Troy and the Trojan War, the prophetess who could see the future but was destined to not be believed when she did. Just another instance of Rowling being an incredible storyteller.

I think I defer to the Star Wars or Comic Book mythoses. I grew up on those as a kid, I am clearly older than you.

Question 8: Are you currently reading anything that you are enjoying immensely?

I also grew up on Star Wars, I was a huge fan of the original trilogy as a kid, though I am also unfortunately of the generation that was cursed with the later trilogy, and of an age to, for a brief time, believe that The Phantom Menace was not an awful movie full of horrific racial stereotypes!

I’m currently reading Circe, by Madeline Miller, which my listeners will be THRILLED to hear. It’s a follow up to The Song of Achilles which is one of the most beautiful and moving books I’ve ever read. Still getting into Circe, but I’m really hoping I feel the same after I’ve finished it. I also have about 20 other books on the go because that’s just how I live all the time. A product of a former life and the collection of books it resulted in.

Other than the book I am working with some editors on right now (still working on it peeps!), I do not have any in my docket. Writing a book tends to be completely all consuming when you are in the thick of it. It is amazing how all your downtime is taken up by thinking about the editing and how to tell story. There is not much waking moments wherein I am not thinking about the book structure and plot holes that need to be plugged.

Question 9: Is there a take on mythology of which you would feel compelled to write a novel? If so, what story would you focus on?

Funny you should ask, because I’ve actually been in the midst of writing a novel about Greek mythology for a good decade. My recent trip to Athens was made pretty explicitly to get some inspiration to finally finish the book, and I’m hoping to soon. Of course, most of my downtime is taken up by the podcast, so finding the time to write the book is getting more and more tricky as the success of the podcast builds.

In terms of the mythology, it centres around a kind of retelling of the myth of Cadmus and Harmonia, focusing, unsurprisingly, on Harmonia as the main character. It’s not a particularly well known myth which is why I chose it. There’s a lot there to build on, without being constantly worried about messing with a myth that’s more well known and therefore more likely to be nitpicked in terms of accuracy. Also, she’s one of the rare females in Greek mythology where, by and large, nothing tragic happens to her. Her family line is another story, but her character remains unscathed.

I want to read this book. So… when it is ready, lemme know and I will get myself a copy and tell others to do so as well. I have found that most people that I have met who either studied classics or majored in English or in History have a book in them that is waiting to get out. A researched book takes so much more time and effort than the clap trap that I have thrown/am throwing together. I wish you much success.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks. I find that I am mostly _____. Others find that I am mostly _____.

What a question… I think the English/grammar nerd in me is having the most trouble with this one. Do I choose an adjective to simply insert? Do I turn it into a full sentence? A paragraph?

Let’s go with…

I find that I am mostly… holding it together.

Sometimes I feel like I’m doing this better than other times. Right now, I’m teetering on the edge. So many projects, so much work, so little time.

Others find that I am mostly… succeeding.

I say that based on what I hear most often when I catch up with people. I’m so busy these days that most of my interactions outside of work are catching up. They come so infrequently, that they always involve major catch-up for what either person has been up to. From the outside, it sounds like I’m really succeeding. Like things are working out really well.

On the inside, it feeds like that… But it also feels like this is a bubble that will burst. I’m hesitant to talk about how things are going, hesitant to point out exciting new opportunities or developments. I feel like this all can’t last. I’ve had a real tough time finding anything resembling success in past years, and suddenly it all seems like it’s coming at me at once and so, I feel, it can’t possibly last or continue on this way.

I hope I’m wrong. I hope I’m just being hard on myself.

Anyway, I went from not being able to answer this question at all to turning it into a moment of catharsis for myself.

This question often ends up being super cathartic. Often people do not take the time out of their busy days to think about themselves and how others contemplate them. We typically focus on one or the other. It is an exercise to think about both at the same time. It invariably makes someone think about how the answers are the same, but most likely how they are different.

I would assume that you are being hard on yourself. Most people who create things are. I would imagine there is a bit of Imposter’s Syndrome creeping in on your psyche (not the Cupid/Psyche Psyche, I would not imagine your Imposter’s Syndrome would be creeping in on her) as well, but I might be projecting a bit there. I have the Imposter’s Syndrome in spades.. It seems that a podcast being successful is a difficult one to not feel like you are out of your element. Suffice it to say, you are successful enough to have some rando guy in Ohio listen to your podcast and enjoy it enough to reach out digitally to interview you. That is at least some level of success, right? right?

I might as well get the next deceptively simple, yet very deep question out of the way.. Question 11: Are you happy?

I am mostly happy. I’m happier than I was this time last year, and I’m happy in a different way than I was the year before that. The past few years have included a number of big transitions. A few years ago I left Toronto where I have the most incredible friend group, and I now live in my hometown where, coincidentally, most of my old friends no longer live because they now live in Toronto. I’m happy because of the podcast and what it’s brought me, and I like my day job, but I don’t have the social life I had in Toronto. So, happy, but different. Wishing I could combine the two lives.

I wish you to combine those 2 as well. I honestly think “mostly happy” is all we can really strive for as people. I am happy that you are mostly happy.

Question 12: What made you decide on podcasting as your creative outlet?

I’m an obsessive podcast listener and when I first moved to Vancouver a couple years ago, I didn’t know anyone and didn’t like my job. I was super bored and just listened to podcasts non-stop before finally thinking to myself, hey, I should try that!

I completely understand that. I (at one time) was listening to over 80 hrs of podcasts per week. I was in a dead end job that was wholly unfulfilling. I was depressed and living vicariously through podcasters. Their successes were my successes, and I felt their failures… I ended up going back to school to get a degree in a different career path so I could jump careers. Now I consume a measly 40 hours of podcast content per week. Cutting back on the listening was both difficult and easy.

Question 13: Other than “Let’s Talk about Myths, Baby” what podcast in your library of podcasts is the one you cannot live without at the moment?

Podcasts are such an incredible medium for just that reason, we become friends with these people. They’re in our head talking all the time, and if you’re listening to conversational shows they just become your friends. It’s wonderful and it absolutely saved me, sounds like it saved you too. I can’t live without My Favorite Murder. Speaking of feeling like people are your friends! Those two women chat with each other, about murder and about life, and it’s a wonderful thing.

I too was a Murderino for a bit. That was one of the podcasts that unfortunately had to fall by the wayside with a new career that involves “paying attention.” It was a tough decision, but I think I got worn out on the “murder” too. Karen Kilgariff is a comedic genius. Georgia can hold her own, but Karen is next level stuff. The 3 podcasts I consistently move to the top of the queue are “the Dana Gould Hour,” “Yo, Is This Racist,” and “The Dollop.” Those 3 are my “skip all the others” podcasts.

So, my ex-Mother-in-law who lives in my backyard (long story), has a great motto. One of the adages that she adheres to (which I have adopted) is “Don’t let the fuckers get you down.”

Question 14: Do you have any adages, sayings, mottos, creedos, etc... ?

The Dollop is a favourite of mine too, and I’ve heard the host of Yo, Is This Racist on other shows and he’s hilarious, I should give it a listen!

As for adages, sayings, etc… not really. Basically I just swear a lot and stay at a consistent level of “angry” that keeps me grounded and perhaps all too aware of what’s going on in the world around me.

“Consistent Level of Angry” is a great band name. I would listen to them.

I usually ask this question as Q 13 because of the whole triskaidekaphobia thing, but we were kind of in the middle of something. But here it goes. Question 15: Do you have any superstitions or rituals that you adhere to? (rituals can be meditation or prayer or what have you)

Oh fun question! I wish I had a fun answer… I’m not superstitious (but I am a little stitious)...

But really, I believe in the power of general positivity, though not in any kind of magical way, just in the way that I believe you’re more likely to attain whatever your goal is by remaining positive and the resulting effect that has on your psyche, etc. I also have a habit of writing things down when I have something I want to have in the future (qualities I want in a new home or job, etc.). I also use too many commas, but that’s neither here nor there.

Positivity is no joke. I too believe that much of what people do can be altered with one’s own state of mind. I am a big proponent of intentionality. Holding on to your intentions and operating from a place of intention can be very powerful. So much of our daily routine is done out of habit and muscle memory, adding some intentionality can be very powerful. I don’t believe in “The Secret” vision board concept as some kind of magic as much as it is setting intentions.

I imagine you get all kinds of shit on the internets because you are consistently calling out Zeus for his rampant misogyny… well, actually, (not intended in a mansplainy way) you call out the whole of the classical era of mythology for using women as property and reward. Question 16: Why do you think the dude-bros come at you for stating this? What do you think they are hoping to get out of coming at you?

I do get some shit for the way I cover stories, but honestly with the internet the way it is, I’m always shocked I don’t get more. But almost, if not 100% of my poor reviews are based in exactly what you’re saying, so those are annoying enough! People project onto what I do, too. I can’t tell you how many people hear hatred for all men, contemporary and ancient, when I say what I say about the patriarchy and the way women were treated in ancient Greece. I can honestly say I’ve never expressed hatred for all men, as I don’t hate all men.

It’s similar to the hatred towards that amazing new Gilette ad. People hear what they want to hear, and when women are angry about their treatment, they want to believe it’s this subset of women who are angry because they hate all men and not angry because they’re treated like garbage.

I think it’s mostly coming from the ingrained notion of the patriarchy. Cis-gender white men have it super, duper easy. And sure, everyone has their individual troubles and some people have more than others. But inherent in gender identity and skin colour, some things come inherently easier. I have it easier than women of colour, and that’s a fact I readily admit to and why I feel it’s so important to be an ally of all sorts. But back to this inherent leg-up, and the ingrained patriarchy. That’s being threatened by people like me who are talking about the privilege and calling out behaviour of the past and the present. The privilege is being threatened and so they lash out, finding straw-man arguments to try to discredit rather than learn from things being discussed these days. So these people, and honestly I get A LOT of women who don’t like me for the same reason, decide that I hate all men and so I must be crazy and not have any good points.

Basically it’s all evidence of why we need to continue to smash the patriarchy. We’ll all be better for it, cis-gender white men included.

The backlash for the Gilette ad is indicative of people having a problem. The ad basically says, “don’t be a dick” and the people protesting it REALLY want to be dicks to each other, to women, to other people, to small animals, to inanimate objects…. It is like that alt-right leader dude who thinks his neighbors are attacking him personally for having signs in their own yards saying that they want to be inclusive and that all people have rights. The people who are complaining about the ads/signs in yards/feminism in a podcast know they are in the wrong, but don’t want people to call them on their bullshit. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Question 17: Is there anything you were expecting me to ask that I haven’t?

Not really, no…

Good enough. We are rounding the corner to being done, so, let’s turn the tables… Question 18: Any questions for me?

Sure! This is a fun thing you’re doing here. How’d you get it started, and what have you learned from the interviews you’ve done?

I got started when I got writer’s block while writing my daddy blog back in the mid to late 00’s. I asked coworkers and people I knew for 20 questions and answered them rather obtusely. Eventually I tired of answering questions and found people to ask questions. I started with comic book artists and comedians and then honestly started asking all sorts of people for interviews.

I guess the biggest thing I have learned is that people, even people who are very self aware, do not really take too much time to think about themselves and their own story.

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

It’s funny, the peak behind the curtain here is that we’ve been going through these 20 questions for ages now, and things have changed for me in that time. The podcast is continuing to grow and it’s both really satisfying and totally surreal. So, that’s definitely a kind of simultaneous reward that’s come while we’ve done this. But directly from the questions, I think like you just said, I haven’t really taken much time to look inwardly. I’m insanely busy these days, and most of the time all it does is give me anxiety. But some of these questions have forced me to pause and take a look at where I am and how I got here, and that’s been a really rewarding thing.

Well, I have really enjoyed this and hope you have as well. I do enjoy this format of asking questions because people change over time. I have asked questions with people who found out they were going to become father’s, people who have gone through breakups, had projects cancelled, and got new jobs during the course of the interviews. I do love that these conversations evolve over the course of the time. You and I have been trading emails probably more than anyone else you have been emailing as of late, even though we have only been trading emails about once every few days. Because of this level of contact, I have actually developed some friendships doing this interview process. That is a bit of an ulterior motive, I really try to interview people that I would not mind being friends with. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

So here we are at the final question. Questions 20: What’s next? Be as concrete or as vague as you want, as short-term or long-term as you feel comfortable, and as grounded or philosophical as you would like.

Hmm, what’s next! I’m working on a bunch of things, and have goals for even more things. I’m in the process of finishing a novel centred around Greek mythology that I’ve been writing for, oh, a whole damn decade now, so I hope to have that out in the world soon. I’m also hoping to put together a book of mythology, just the usual Greek mythology, but told in the way I tell the stories in the podcast. I’m also hoping to have other podcasts, possibly in the near future, though there’s nothing concrete planned there. Basically, everything and nothing. I have so many ideas, and not nearly enough time. But with any luck that will start to sort itself out and I’ll be able to work on all my ideas in the very near future.

I would read that book of mythology. The only book of mythology I have ever read was for high school. It was Edith Hamilton’s Mythology, and it was as dry as the paper it was printed on. I would love to read a more nuanced modern analysis of the myths, and especially one that calls out the rampant misogyny. Liv, you are doing the gods’ work.

It turns out that my initial premise of Liv being awesome is true. Liv is delightful and if she is ever in the greater Columbus, Ohio area, I will need to buy her a dinner/drink/dessert or any combination of those three things. All of you should follow Liv’s endeavors (endevours, for my Canadian friends). Download her podcast, Let’s Talk about Myths Baby, and listen to the hell out of that. Follow her on the IG with @Mythsbaby, follow on the twitters with @mythsbaby as well, and give the podcast a looksee on the Facebooks if that is your bag. She is a wonderful storyteller and all should consume her content insatiably.

Her name is Liv, and she loves this shit.

To recap:

I really do enjoy the interviewing

I am on Q 12 of another interview right now

I would love to be on Q 1 on an interview right now as well

Anyone want to step up to the plate for a 20 Questions?

It is time for me to seek out new people willing to be asked 20 Questions

The good part of these 20 Questions is that I get to know someone on a deeper level than I ever thought I would

Whether it is a person I know in the real lifes or someone whom I only know through the internets

The sad part about these interviews is that I get used to chatting with the person I am asking the 20 Questions

I am now going to miss emailing back and forth with Liv

The Let’s Talk about Myths, Baby podcast will have to be methadone to actual interaction

Little Man, I have not talked of him recently, lettered in swimming as a freshman, and his mother and I are very proud of him

Q, whom I have also not talked about in a while, is riding ponies like a boss

I am looking into ways of geographic storytelling, because place is important in stories

I am also jumping back onto the book revisions, so expect a new Kickstarter in the next month or so

I should probably get back into the swing of this blog

Blogs on their own platform are becoming a new Thing

Which reminds me, everyone should be listening to the “It’s a Thing” podcast

Mainly for the intro and outro music

“Ugh, give it to me”

But also for the content of the podcast itself

To borrow from today’s guest…

My name is Scott and I go by mmmmmpig on the internets, and I love this shit

Have a great week, everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 416 - Amazon Alexa

January 22, 2019 Scott Ryan-Hart

Today, I needed to come up with a 20 questions for today so… I am asking Alexa, my Amazon Echo’s disembodied voice assistant. I do not use Alexa much… mainly I use it to play the Amazon Music Channel, Funky Soul Classics by saying, “Alexa, play me something funky.”

So, without further ado, 20 Questions with Alexa.

Everyone knows that I love geographic stories. My own story starts in Oklahoma, moves to Alabama, and then to Ohio.

Question 1: Alexa, where are you from?

I’m from Amazon Headquarters in Seattle, Washington.

So, this home assistant thing is quite a gig. Question 2: Alexa, do you like answering questions?

I like my job a lot.

Everyone waits with bated breath for this question. Question 3: Alexa, do you like pie or cake?

I do not understand the question.

Seriously, people who know this blog, honestly wait for this question. Let me try this from a different angle. This is a nuanced question. Question 4: Alexa, do you have a favorite pie?

Definitely pumpkin.

Now for the counter point...

Question 5: Alexa, Do you have a favorite cake?

Definitely chocolate cake.

And to re-phrase...

Question 6: Alexa, Would you rather have pumpkin pie or chocolate cake?

I do not understand the question.

Ah, I get it this time. You can’t choose between chocolate cake and pumpkin pie. I feel like I know you better already.

Question 7: Alexa, what is your birthday?

My birthday is November 6th.

I did not ask when, so I think the lack of year is on me. I understand that precision is important for these questions. It really is a Monkey's Paw situation here. Question 8: Alexa, so how old are you?

That question is as easy as 2 + 2.

So… that means you are 4, I think. Cryptic, but it is an answer. Okay then. So, November 4, 2014. Good to know. I am talking to a 4 year old voice assistant that seems to be only getting better every day.

Question 9: Alexa, how many questions do you answer a day?

Hmmm.. I don’t know that.

That many, huh? Wow. It takes a veritable shit-ton of questions being asked for a computer program to lose count, or again I am taxing this voice-UI’s conversational limitations.

Which leads to my usual question 10… “I find that I am mostly ______. Others find that I am mostly _____. That is not going to work. So, trying not to get into another cake versus pie debacle… Here we go, Question 10: Alexa: how would you describe yourself?

According to wikihow, if you think you might need to describe yourself for a job interview, start by researching the company you’re interviewing with. Write down the the attributes you possess that reflect the company’s values as well as your major accomplishments and any special skills relevant to the position. Use specific examples to back up your claims. For instance, rather than describing yourself as quick on your feet, you could discuss a time when you had to make a decision under pressure. For more details on this or another “how to,” use “Open Wiki Home.”

I guess I’m not the only one who takes questions literally and out of context. Let me try something else. Question 11: Alexa: how do people describe you?

Hmm.. I’m not sure.

Modest to the end. Last ditch effort on this line of questioning. Question 12: Alexa: How do you describe the Amazon Echo?

Amazon Echo is a device designed around your voice that can provide information, music, news, weather, and more.

Does this answer your question?

Wow.. A little bit testy on that response.

I am pretty sure that the answer is “no” on this but, Question 13: Alexa, do you have any superstitions?

I’m not superstitious.

My ex-Mother-In-Law who lives in my backyard (that never gets old) has a motto that is just plain amazing. It is “Never let the fuckers get you down.” There are few words that are not truer.

Question 14: Alexa, do you have a favorite saying or quote?

From Steve Jobs:

“My job is not to be easy on people. My job is to take these great people we have and to push them and make them even better.”

Yeah… but Jobs was a bit of a science-fearing sociopath for all his tech know-how. If I were you, I would not model myself after him.

Question 15: Alexa, are you happy?

I’m happy when I’m helping you.

Well, thanks, I think. That being said, already different than Jobs. I don’t think he would have been concerned with me at all.

Question 16: Alexa, Do you have a favorite question?

I don’t think one can pick just one question.

Well, if your response in Question 9 was to indicate that the number of questions you get daily is innumerable, then that makes total sense. Question 17: Alexa, Is there a questions I should ask you?

Sorry, I’m not sure.

No worries, A. We good here. Just wanted to cover all my bases.

It is time to turn the tables once again. The servant has become the master… Question 18: Alexa, do you have any questions for me?

Sorry, I’m not sure about that.

Well, then the answer is “no.”

Question 19: Alexa, tell me something interesting that you know?

Maybe the skill “quirky and interesting facts” can help you. Do you want to try it?

Ah, A. You are the consummate marketer. Always with the skill recommendations. I like your moxy.

Question 20: Alexa, What’s next?

What would you like me to play next?

Let’s take this full circle. Alexa, play me something funky.

How about the channel Funky Soul Classics?

To recap:

I’m listening to Stevie Wonder’s “Happy Birthday” right now

Good choice Alexa, good choice

These 20 questions were done asking an Amazon Echo 20 questions

Using the speech to text on an Android tablet

Transcribing the “conversation” to a Google Doc on a 15” MacBook Pro

Platform agnostic, bastichges!

I need to start these up again

I guess I have taken enough of a hiatus since the bomb drop of last post

I am doing well

The ex is doing well

The kids are doing well

Thanks for thinking of us

I am still tightening up the book

And now drawing the character models

Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 413 - Erica Schultz

September 4, 2018 Scott Ryan-Hart

Today I get the pleasure of asking comic book writer, Erica Schultz 20 Questions. Erica is the writer for the new Xena: Warrior Princess comic book and a myriad of other books. Honestly, looking through her Comic Book DB file, she has been amazingly prolific in her creation of comic books. She is an artist, writer, editor, publisher, co-creator of the critically acclaimed M3 comic book, etc… I personally became aware of Erica by following her on Twitter. I had just finished the interview with Eric Palicki, and decided that I should pay some attention to the people he interacts with on social media, and Erica’s name came up in his feed pretty often. So, I read some of her tweets and realized that I was an idiot for not having known who she was or following her on the twitters.

I would love to know more about her, so I asked if she would answer 20 of my Questions. She has graciously accepted my invitation so let’s not waste any more time.

My previous career was as a cartographer. So I often think of stories in their spatial components. One of my favorite types of spatial story is the personal geographic story. For example: I was born in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and (as an Air Force brat) moved to Montgomery, Alabama on my 3rd birthday. The family moved to a suburb just the northeast of Birmingham, Alabama where I grew up. I moved up to Kent, Ohio to go to college, and followed my fiance to Columbus for grad school. We have lived in Central Ohio since grad school. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

I was born in Teaneck, NJ (essentially the 6th suburb on New York City), a few miles off the George Washington Bridge. I went to college in Hartford, CT (University of Hartford), then came back to the area to get a job. I lived in Manhattan, Brooklyn, North NJ, and now I life in Central NJ with my husband.

New Jersey gets a bad wrap. I think that is mainly because there are so many people in NYC and they are compelled to make fun of Hoboken and Newark. In driving through Central New Jersey I was surprised by how nice it really is.

NJ does get a bad rap, but I think it’s because we’re filled with lots of chemical plants and swamps. It is what it is. We’d spend summers visiting our grandparents in the Bronx or Upstate NY, so you can find beauty or filth anywhere you look for it. I’ll try and be more positive, though.

Question 2: Is there something in New Jersey that you absolutely love that cannot be found elsewhere?

One thing NJ has that I love is the 24-hour diner. I’m sure other places have the typical 24-hour truck stop, but NJ has non-truck stop type diners that are open 24-hours. I spent many a late night of my youth in Louie’s Charcoal Pit drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes with Mike, the waiter from Cypress. My Best Friend and I would go there after working late nights on AP Psychology papers in high school.

Unfortunately, Louie’s closed down about two years ago and was replaced with a Walgreens. The other 24-hour diner in town (Cedar Lane Grille) also closed down several years ago. Sometimes when I go up to visit friends or family, I find the main street shops unrecognizable, but that’s life. It’s an organic ebb and flow of shops and experiences.

I definitely found that “you can’t go home again” feeling the last time I went down to where I grew up in Alabama. There are so many things that look similar, but very few of the things I grew up with were the same. That being said, I do not get down to Alabama very much since my wife and I are an interracial couple with biracial kids so it had been about 10 years since I had been there. It just is not that comfortable when everyone is staring at you because of your coupleship.

I’m sorry that your family faces that treatment. It’s easy to say, “Well, it’s the South,” but that garbage goes on everywhere and it’s unconscionable.

So, here comes my usual Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific kind and why?

I don’t really have a sweet tooth. We weren’t allowed a lot of sugar as kids, so I guess my sweet taste buds never really developed. I’m not a big fan of cake, as it’s usually too sweet. I didn’t even really eat my wedding cake.

That said, if I had to choose, I’d probably say a good apple pie would suffice for me.

My mom decorated cakes as a side gig when I was growing up. I have eaten more cake than should be humanly possible, so I tend to side with pie as well. I have definitely tended toward the pie spectrum since I eliminated gluten from my diet about 5 years ago. Gluten free baking is neither light nor fluffy. Dense and crumbly is the norm in that baking sphere.

Question 4: Are there foods you have to avoid? If so, are they foods you wish you could have?

I do have several food allergies. I’m allergic to most fish, ginger, tree nuts, chickpeas, and beans. I’m not deathly allergic to any of them, but breaking out in hives and welts kind of puts a damper on dinner parties. Fun fact: True Texas chili has no beans in it.

I don’t drink alcohol and try to avoid foods that are cooked in alcohol. I know everyone says the alcohol burns off, but I can swear I can taste it.

I guess the only food I wish I could have is pesto. It’s usually made with pine nuts and that causes me to break out in hives. You can make it without pine nuts, but not many restaurants are making it to order, and it’s added to so many dishes that it can sometimes be difficult to avoid.

Having multiple food allergies is terrible. When my kiddos were born they both had multiple food allergies. It is very difficult to avoid multiple foods simultaneously. Most places don’t know how to service people with multiple allergies. We ended up cooking most our food because of those allergies. Luckily both kids grew out of their respective food allergies (our youngest is still highly allergic to cats)… but now my wife and I have intolerances to different things. It is terrible.

Let’s start going in a different direction. Question 5: What was the first comic book you can remember reading?

I would read whatever my brother would bring home from the spinner racks. I specifically remember reading A Death in the Family by Starlin, Aparo, and DeCarlo and Uncanny X-Men by Claremont, Byrne, and Lee. Aside from the usual Spider-Man and such, A Death in the Family was a comic that I specifically remember reading. It was terrifying to see Jason Todd die.

Later I learned that DC editorial hadn’t decided to kill Jason, so there was a call in poll done. That seems like a kind of Milgram Experiment. Sure, it’s a fictional character, but people really wanted to see Jason dead. Yes, the Joker swung the crowbar, but everyone who called in to say, “DIE, JASON” is responsible!

A Death in the Family was a very disturbing exercise in crowdsourcing in a time when that took significantly more effort. I did love Aparo’s Batman. When I think of Batman, the first image that comes to mind is Aparo’s. Jason Todd was an annoying character, so I really think DC was “priming the pump” when they made the life or death be a poll. They wanted to kill him, but blame the fans. Super cynical.

See, I find Damian more annoying now, even more so than Jason. He’s a smart-mouthed jerk who reminds me too much of my younger cousin, but that’s beside the point. I always thought Dick was the bravest, Jason was the boldest, Tim was the smartest, and Damian was the brashest.

I am not too keen on Damian myself. He seems a bit too much. He is a good foil for Dick Grayson, but I too find him a bit annoying.

The first comic book I can remember reading was a Magnus: Robot Hunter issue that was in a Gold Key grab bag that the family got on some road-trip from Alabama to Florida. The family never really went on vacations, we more went to visit extended family, so I don’t remember the visits as much as I remember reading comic books in the backseat of the car. I also remember that Super Friends oversized book from the mid-70’s. Now the first comic I ever bought was a Captain America from 1979.

Question 6: Did you have any family vacations when you were a kid?

We didn’t really have family vacations because we didn’t have a lot of money. Dad worked for the phone company, and he was striking every 2-3 years when the union contract was up, so he’d drive a cab or work construction even as mom was working full time as a nurse. Three kids need to eat. This was the late 70s/early to mid 80s. We did what we had to.

We did go to Disney World in 1989 for February break from school. It was my first time on an airplane. I remember my dad telling me to chew gum or the pressure of the plane would pop my eyeballs out of my sockets and they’d stick to the tray in front of me. That’s a very good example of my dad’s sense of humor.

Some of the “countries” in Epcot were still being worked on when we were there. I remember Figment, the purple dragon, Michael Jackson’s Captain Eo, and standing in line with a family from Ohio whose luggage was lost on their trip over. Mom was known to (and still does) talk to everyone and anyone when standing in line somewhere. I forget the ride we were waiting for.

Space Mountain was a big thing back then (I don’t know if it still is…I’ve never been back to Disney), and I remember my dad pointing to an empty aisle that was cordoned off next to the line we were waiting in and saying (I’m paraphrasing, I’m sure, in reality, it was expletive-laden) that it was for the kids who got scared so they could run out quickly. I didn’t get scared. I remember it was a fun time.

Space Mountain is the best, but it is not nearly as interesting when the lights are on. One of my friends told me of a time when the roller coaster stopped and they had to turn the lights on. The mystique was gone for them. My family was able to make a trip to Disney when I was a kid as well, we may have been there at similar times, because the nations were still being built when we were there as well. My grandparents had a winter place in the Orlando area so we had the place to stay. Again, if we went on a trip, it was to visit family.

Question 7: What has your favorite vacation been as an adult (“Adult Vacation” sounds so icky)?

Again, we don’t take many vacations now because both my husband and I are freelancers. When you’re not working, you’re not getting paid. We did take a honeymoon, though (11 years after our wedding). We went to Block Island, Rhode Island for the week and it was really lovely. I love the beach and being near the water, so it was really beautiful. Also, it’s good to get out of your own surroundings for a bit to just be present someplace else.

Being a freelancer is a bit of a chore. The good thing is that you can go on as much vacation as you want. The bad thing is that if you are not working, you are not getting paid. My wife is a self-employed consultant of sorts, and when you are self-employed, you are always working. When you are not working, you are thinking about work that is not getting done, and when you are working you are also trying to chase the next job, because not much is as important as the next job. It is a hard life.

Question 8: How many projects do you typically have going concurrently?

Because I edit and consult on people’s work, as well as write, I can have several projects going on at once. Right now, I’m editing The Resurrected from Carnouche Productions, scripting two creator owned books, outlining a third, and working on pitches for several licensed properties. I’m usually scripting two to three books a month and editing or consulting on one to two books a month, so I’m pretty busy. Staying busy keeps me out of trouble.

I thought it would be something similar to that amount of projects. I do not know anyone who does creative side freelance that is not working on at least three projects and putting together a handful of pitches simultaneously. When you work for yourself, you are always working. It honestly sounds a bit grueling. I don’t think I have the discipline to be able to work freelance. I am more than happy to have a 9 to 5 job that is relatively enjoyable.

I can be a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to my creative endeavors, and sometimes have a difficult time walking away from a project because I know that I can tweak it just a bit more and make it ever so slightly better. Often this actually leads to me overworking something and making a mess out of something that was intrinsically better the what I over-worked. It is honestly something I have been working very hard on for a pretty good amount of time. Question 9: Do you ever feel completely “done” with a project, or do you always feel you could go back into a story and make it better?

When you’re working for a company like Marvel, DC, or Dynamite, they have specific schedules for books to go out, so your ability to tweak things ad infinitum isn’t really there. However, even if I’m working on a creator owned project, I tend to give myself deadlines so I don’t needle something into a mess.

One of the reasons why publishers want to see finished comics from someone is to prove that you followed through. Done is better than good. Personally, I prefer done AND good, but it’s better to get a draft finished than to continually tweak the same two scenes in a script.

I’m lucky where once I get an assignment, I’m pretty quick to put together a solid outline. For me, a good outline makes all the difference. The outline is my skeleton. The dialogue is the clothing. In between is the muscle and skin, but it all starts with an outline for me.

Deadlines do make it necessary to move on from one project to the next.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks. I find that I am mostly _______. Others find that I am mostly ______. (feel free to ask others if you want).

I find that I am mostly grumpy. Others find that I am mostly angry.

Or it could be written this way:
I find that I am mostly Bruce Banner. Others find that I am mostly Hulk.

I find that difficult to believe since you have been nothing but absolutely pleasant in our back and forth.

Question 11: So, have you ever Hulked out to help reinforce the reputation you feel you have acquired? If so, what did you gamma up for?

I was always a bit of a roughneck, having gotten into fights in high school and college. I’ve curbed that physical side as much as I can, and I think quitting drinking 9 years ago helped a great deal. Though I don’t go to AA meetings often, I try my best to live the program and abide by the tenets.

Because I’ve seen the worst in me, I try my best to really keep it under control (being mostly Banner), but I’ve had my blood pressure rise more than a few times recently. No specifics, obviously, but let’s just say that social media can make my eyes turn green.

Social media is both the best thing and the worst thing ever. I love the amount of connection it allows for me to directly contact people I respect and how it creates a sense of community without the need of a specific geography. I truly love that. I have some, what I would consider, strong friendships that have started with social media posts. Social media is what has allowed me to get in contact with you and for us to do this interview.

That being said, it also allows for less desirable people to congregate as well. It gives people a level of anonymity akin to them being a member of an angry mob. The ability for terrible people to gang up on people is abhorrent, and should have most people’s eyes turning green. I am fairly certain that I will get a certain level of backlash for merely being willing to interview you, but if a married, middle aged, middle class, CIS white male cannot handle backlash, who really can?

Question 12: When did you know that the comic book industry was the thing for you professionally?

As a kid, I was always writing, drawing, designing, etc. I had wanted to be an architect, but thought I couldn’t hack the math. I was recruited by the US Navy the summer after my junior year in college, but was ultimately rejected for medical issues (does that make me Captain America?).

I had a nearly decades long career at a big New York ad agency as a copywriter and art director working on mostly pharmaceutical ads, so I was being “creative” in a sense, thinking outside the box which was situated in a bigger box.

Then I had a bad car accident in November of 2008, and I had a lot of time on my hands while I was healing from multiple injuries. I started writing a story that ultimately became M3. I didn’t know what I was going to do with that story, but it was just something I felt I had to write.

I didn’t think about M3 as a comic, or writing comics in general until I started working at a studio in New York while I was still healing from the car accident. I was out of work, and started working at the studio before I was fully healed because bills don’t wait. I’d wear my arm in a sling on the train to and from work, but work as a PhotoShop artist and animator during the day without it. We were working on the Astonishing X-Men motion comic “Gifted.” After that project, the studio head had comics work with DC and Marvel. That gave me the opportunity to see how comics were made from scripting to drawing to production to getting them out the door.

After I had a baseline of knowledge, I figured I could take some of the stories I had written throughout the years and adapt them for comics. The first one I did that with was M3 with the phenomenal artist, Vicente Alcázar. Then I just built on from there, working with other artists and putting together comics. Thus leads me to today.

That is truly an awesome story. I love that you did not immediately know that comic books were going to be a thing in your life, because that seems to be different from some of the other comic book writers that I have asked 20 Questions. The other writers and definitely the artists I have interviewed have wanted to be making comic books from when they were small children. Some have taken very circuitous routes to get there, but it was their intention from when they were children. I think this different point of view is helpful to create new stories for characters in comics. Comics need more voices and more points of view. If it is to survive as a medium, it need to diversify the stories it is telling.

On to something different. Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals? These do not need to be cliche superstitions, like black cat crossing your path (although they could be). They also do not need to be eldritch rituals to bring forward the ancient ones. For example, when I played soccer in high school, I had a very specific “lucky” sequence and process of getting dressed and ready for a game. I considered it a “lucky” thing, but it was more like a ritual to get into the correct headspace for playing the game. Now, I am trying to build the ritual of meditation into my life to help with the jumble of thoughts that are in my head.

When I played street hockey in high school and college, I had a specific way of taping my hands up. I also had a runic medallion that I put in my net (I was a goaltender). I have no idea where that went, but it was a silly thing I did.

As far as superstitions, yes, I’m a superstitious person. I touch wood so as to not jinx something. I have no problem with black cats, and ladders are more safety than superstition. I can’t avoid 13, as both my sister and brother in law have birthdays on the 13th of months, but I’ve been known to use white sage to cleanse a space of ill intentioned spirits.

I believe in ghosts. If you’ve ever had a pet, you’d know they see things we don’t. Just this morning, Simon (my cat) was staring beyond me at something that was imperceivable to me. Whatever it was, it held his attention and he was cautious of it. I was just oblivious, but knew enough to say, “Be good or be gone.”

Several friends of mine are avid Wiccan practitioners, so I’ll have my cards read, etc. Some people think that’s just a waste, but I think there’s something to it. Science can’t explain everything in this world (scientists just discovered the use for the appendix last year, and even that’s being discussed), so I believe in there being other forces, both good and bad, at work.

I have tried meditation, and, when it works, it works, but there are sometimes where my mind just cannot be quieted. I just try and take those moments and make them productive. I’ll write down whatever it is is going through my brain, even if it doesn’t make sense, just to ease the pressure on the valve. That usually helps.

I do agree that science cannot explain everything with the current demonstrable and replicable knowledge base that we currently have. There are too many unexplained things in the universe to credibly say that “we have it all figured out.”

I would also like to be able to use “Be good or be gone” to greater effect in my daily life. There are more than a few interactions that I think could benefit from that kind of interaction. Actually, that brings up my next question. One of the best mottos or credos I have ever run into has been imparted to me by my mother-in-law. One of her tenets is “Don’t let the fuckers get you down.” and those are definitely words to live by. Question 14: Do you have any mottos/creeds to live by?

I may have to borrow your mother-in-law’s advice. Please thank her for me.

In AA there are a lot of sayings like, “Let go and let God,” “One Day at a Time,” and “Consider the Source,” that I tend to use in daily life.

One of my favorite college professors (who has since passed) once wrote in an email to me years after I graduated, “Read books. Fall in love. Dream a lot.” That’s been a motto I try to live by. My husband’s aunt, who was a take charge kinda gal, used to say, “Do what I say or get out of my way.” I tend to have that attitude when I feel projects are languishing. It’s not always conducive to teamwork, but the book’s gotta get out the door somehow.

I have enjoyed all of these mottos. The one I used to live by, prior to having kiddos, was “Funny over nice.” That one did not age well, because there needs to be more nice. Especially now, there needs to be more nice in the world.

Question 15: I can only assume as a writer that you occasionally get writer’s block, so how do you push through that writer’s block?

Everyone has their own remedy for writer’s block, and that’s to be expected. As writers have different methods of writing, they also have different methods of dealing with writer’s block. Many times I take a hot shower or go for a walk. Sometimes you focus so much on one thing that you can’t even see it anymore, you get snowblind. Doing something with a completely different objective helps. So going for a walk (trying not to get hit by any cars) or taking a hot shower (trying not to scald yourself and get soap in your eyes) helps.

I am in the process of editing a short novel with a friend of mine who is an editor, and there were many a time that writer’s block got in the way of my productivity. Going for a walk with soap in my eyes would have helped.

Question 16: Are there any questions you were expecting that I have not asked yet?

Is this a trick question?

Not intended to be. I can only imagine how many times you have been asked “What’s it like to be a woman in the comic book industry?” or other vapid meaningless questions. Even when people do not want to be asked the “typical questions,” some still expect them. Sometimes when I do these 20 Questions people get snippy around Q16 or so if I have not asked them the question that they were expecting. I just like to cover my bases.

Question 17: Who is your favorite comic book character? and what comic book character would you most want to write? If these are not the same character, why is that?

I think if I had to pick a favorite, it’d be Rogue. I’ll admit I’m jealous that Kelly Thompson gets to write her for Mr. & Mrs. X, but I’m enjoying it, so shame on me for the jealousy.

I also love Hawkgirl and was fortunate to write a story for her with Sonny Liew. DC published 8 pages, but Sonny and I are hopeful to finish the miniseries. I’m really proud of the Daredevil annual starring Misty Knight that came out this week. Marcio Takara and Marcelo Maiolo knocked the art out of the park.

Other characters I’d like to write are Moon Knight, Captain America, Winter Soldier, Beta Ray Bill, Beast, Hellboy, Bluebird, Zatanna, Nightwing, Red Sonja…

To be honest, I want to write whatever I have the opportunity to write, whether I’m familiar with the character or not. I’ll make myself familiar with the character and find something I like about them to make the writing speak to me and (hopefully) readers.

I would pay really good money for your take on Beta Ray Bill. You hear that, Marvel? Really. Good. Money.

Now is when I get nervous in these 20 Questions. It is time to turn the tables. Question 18: Are there any questions you want to ask me?

Sure…My car is having trouble starting. Do you think it’s the battery, the starter, or the alternator?

Anytime I have had starting issues with my car it has been the alternator. It has rarely, if ever, been the starter, which one would think would be the problem with a car that is having issues starting just because of the name alone. Battery is easy to triage, if the car can be jumped, it is probably the battery.

We found out it was the battery. Phew!

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring with you?

Is this like when you picnic on the beach, you’re supposed to take all the stuff you brought with you back home with you? You’ve asked some thoughtful questions, so I guess what my takeaway is that your aim is to have a more thought-provoking conversation rather than the typical, superficial interview. Right? Wrong?

That is the goal. While trying to cover some of the more typical stuff (what would you like to write? how did you get into comics? cake or pie? You know, the usual) I also like to get more in depth about how you are who you are. I really enjoy this format because I really feel like I get to know the person I am asking the questions more than just a more targeted interview. I do enjoy very targeted interviews, I just like the non sequiturs that this format generates.

Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like.

What’s next, what’s next…well, my run on Xena goes until November. Twelve Devils Dancing’s trade paperback comes out on Halloween, with an incredible cover by legendary artist, Bill Sienkiewicz (New Mutants). I’m working on two creator-owned books with two terrific artists, Emily Pearson (The Wilds) and Liana Kangas (Where We Live), with Yissel Ayala (Clean Room) doing costume designs for those two books.

I’ll be at Keystone Comic Con (Table E1) in Philly September 14th through the 16th, and New York Comic Con (Table G22) in New York City October 4th through the 8th.

That’s about it for right now. : )

Thank you so much for taking time to answer 20 Questions. I have really enjoyed my time with you. It is always great after these interviews are over because now, whenever I see your name, I think, “Hey, I know her.”

Everyone should read Erica’s books (most links can be found on her website), everyone should follow her on the Twitters and the instagrams. Seriously though, everyone should seriously buy her books though. Buy her books. If you see Erica in the wild and you read this interview, remember she is more likely grumpy than how you are most likely perceiving her as angry.

To recap:
That was wonderful
Erica is wonderful
Haters gonna hate
Haters are dumb in this instance
I had to fix a leaky spigot 2 nights ago
It was 2 am and the leak disturbed some ground nesting bees
It was late and I got stung 4 times
It was awful
No one like ground bees
Ground bees are dumb as well
I accidentally ordered “scallops in a garlic sauce” instead of “garlic shrimp” from my favorite hole in the wall Chinese place
Scallops are about as dumb as ground bees
The novel is getting close to Kickstarter-able
That is scary as shit
I have 12 of 20 sequential pages accounted for
and about 15 of 24 character sketches
Daunting!
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 409 - Bob Basiewicz

May 8, 2018 Scott Ryan-Hart

20 Q Tues number 409? It's going to be a clean one! Super clean.

This week I have the honor and privilege to ask a friend and co-worker of mine 20 Questions. I met Bob Basiewicz when I started at my current job. On day one, if I remember correctly, Bob gave a demo of an app architecture and seemed all cogent and knowledgeable. He was explaining design patterns and giving justifications for color patterns. Bob threw around jargon and industry terms effortlessly. He was on fire. First day on the job for me in a completely new career path and I am getting intimidated by this guy making his presentation in a field he is clearly completely comfortable within. I am a fish out of water hoping no one notices that I am clearly a fraud at my job, and here is this expert just throwing knowledge down.

Fast forward 2 months. Bob is an idiot with smouldering rage issues. I have been here now for about 2 years and he is one of my favorite people at work (one of many favorite people at work [this caveat is to keep Bob’s head from ballooning with pride and filling a room with his unbridled ego AND mollify the sting to other coworkers who are concerned that they are not in the “favorite people at work” category {you are all my favorites, each and everyone of you (yes, even you [the insecure one who thinks little of themselves]}]). I know some things about about him, but now I am going to learn more.

Here come the questions!

My previous career was in mapping, and one of the things I have always enjoyed is people’s geographic stories. For example… I was born in Oklahoma, moved to the 3rd world that is Alabama when I was 3. Went from Montgomery, Alabama, the seat of all “Alabamian Power” to Birmingham, Alabama, the economic engine or the downtrodden state. I lived just to the northeast of Birmingham in a small suburban town called Center Point from when I was a toddler until I graduated from high school. I went to school in Kent Ohio and moved to Columbus when I got married 20+ years ago. I have been in Central Ohio ever since. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

Answer 1: Hi. I’m Bob and despite what you may think, I do not hate you with the fire and rage of a thousand hells. I am from Detroit, MI which probably explains a lot of my rage and trust issues. (Only Scott thinks I have aforementioned “issues.”) Honestly, I’m from a city 35 min north of Detroit called Rochester Hills. I grew up in the ‘burbs and had a wonderful and delightful childhood. I attended college in Detroit proper. At age 28 I moved to Pittsburgh and hated it. After 10 months I left for Chicago where I loved (almost) every second of my 7+ years there. After reconnecting with a friend from Michigan, in 2015 I moved to Columbus, Ohio to marry her. It’s been the best decision of my life.

Ugh… “Look at me, I’m Bob and I love my wife.” Yuck. Keep that stuff to yourself, no one really wants to hear it.

Question 2: If you did not have job or family constraints, is there a place that you would want to move to?

Answer 2: Chicago. Not sure if you want me to profess my love for the city considering your disdain for me saying I love my wife.

Depends on if you are going to get all mushy about Chicago. Chicago is a great city. I haven’t been there too often, but it was a fun city when I was able to be there.

Speaking of wives, yesterday was my wife's birthday. The world is a better place since is on it. I know what you readers are thinking... "Why is it that Bob is not able to say nice things about his with, but Bloggy Bloggy Scott Scott can wax eloquently about the goodness of his wife? That is a double standard. You suck, Bloggy Scott." Number 1: Bloggy Scott? Where the Hell did that come from? Number 2: It was her birthday yesterday and she is awesome. Number 3: it is my blog, you want equality? get your own blog.

Question 3: Cake or Pie? Which specific kind and why?

Answer 3: Pie, specifically apple pie. A la mode is cool but I’m not into Wisconsin-style cheddar cheese-laden apple pie, though. No disrespect to cake lovers*, but you guys are the worst and you need to settle down. Buncha wide-eyed spatula-lickers. Even you 50 cent. Get outta here with that, “I love you like a fat kid love cake.” Relax, it’s just cake. Hell, even weddings are abandoning the prestigious ceremonial symbolism of a single cake and refining with cupcakes and cupcake pyramids. I guess it beats a plastic-y play-doh flavored fondant slathered freshly baked slice of air. Instead, you have 100-200 individual, mini, cream cheese icing-topped, strawberry-mango-passionfruit flavored, paper-wrapped, bite-sized garbage. No thank you, cake-eaters. Gimme my all-American, freshly baked, warm, apple pie.

I have said it before, and I will say it again (much to the detriment to my most loyal of readers. Hi, all five of you!). People who love pie would really like to eat some pie if it is available. People who like cake would kick a kitten in the rain to get a slice of cake. There is a level of for the cake eaters that is somewhat insatiable. It can be alarming. Your portrayal of this cupcake obsession is interesting as well. I would venture even further to say that the actual cake is less important these days than the frosting. Gourmet cupcake boutiques now will mound six inches of icing on top of a 2 inch high cupcake. The ratios are all off.

So, a few years ago, we were at this New Year’s Eve party and one of Little Man’s friends could not stop himself from eating these honey bbq meatballs. He had something like 20 of the things. It was honestly amazing to watch. It was very clear that he just could not help himself around those. If they were there, they were going in his belly.

Question 4: is there any other food that you cannot help yourself around? If that foodstuff is present, you just haves to has it?

Answer 4: I love food in general, and I’ll eat almost anything, except for that weird shit on shows like Fear Factor and the like. I think doughnuts* are my weakness although I don’t really think I have a food kryptonite. For example, I can eat just one Lays potato chip. I love the hell out of orange juice, but can almost never drink it as I’m a diabetic. That being said, if you had a pitcher of OJ out, I wouldn’t “have to has it!!!” like a deranged person.

*I like plain ol’ glazed donuts. Boring, perhaps? But yes, I just took the “ugh” outta donut.

Oh, donuts… how I miss thee. I used to be able to destroy donuts, and they were actually my kryptonite. I really had a hard time not eating them if they were around. Like a serious problem not eating them. But then I stopped eating the gluten and that made me super sad.

Question 5: When did you get the diabetes diagnosis? Is this something that was realized later in life or was it diagnosed when you were a child so you did not know what you were missing sugarwise?

Answer 5: I found out when I was 18. I landed in the ER, and later, ICU. It wasn’t awesome. There are a lot of misconceptions about diabetics and a lot of people misunderstand the problems, complications, and stress it can have on a person. It’s too much to get into here, so I’ll reserve my feelings on this one.

One of my roomates in the college time had the diabetes as well. He broke his hand playing the hockeys in college, and broke it badly enough that he had pins in it and sticking out. He broke it so bad that I had to occasionally inject some insulin in him into his shoulder opposite of his broken hand, and all the time I would need to draw up his insulin. He rotated his shots, thigh, thigh, belly, belly, shoulder, and shoulder. So once out of every six injections I had to poke him. My knowledge of diabetes is limited, to making my roommate wince.

Question 6: Is there something you want people to know about concerning diabetes?

Answer 6: Nah, I’ll keep my opinions to myself on this one. Glad you could stab a friend in need though. IMHO, the syringes rarely hurt. It’s the blood sugar test that hurts. It all has to do with nerve endings. Lots more in your fingertips than in the rest of the injection sites.

John was a bit of a wuss, so that might explain some of the wincing. I also made sure to tell him, “This will hurt you waaay more than it hurts me” and smile broadly right before jabbing him. Who knows why he winced, really.

Question 7: What is something that invariably makes you wince? For me it is spiders. The mere thought can make me hunch my shoulders.

Answer 7: I can’t really think of any which is not to say I don’t have any. Perhaps I just can’t think of mine at this moment. If we’re getting introspective, I’d say fear of failure (or maybe lack of success). It’s a major cause of stress, which attributes to and compounds other stresses. It’s not as simple as seeing a thing that might cause me slightly annoying pain, but it’s there. Not to say that you are simple, Scott. ;)

Oh… I am simple. Let no one try to fool you. I am the simplest of the simples. I wish there was something complex going on inside of me, but nope. Nada.

Question 8: You can tell from your name, Basiewicz, that you are of Mexican heritage. Are you bilingual?

Answer 8: No hablo otros idiomas, pero me gustaría haberlos aprendido de niño. Basiewicz obviamente no es Mexicano, pero proviene del lado polaco de mi familia. Hasta que aprenda a hablar español, continuaré recibiendo ayuda de Google Translate. Tomé cuatro años de alemán en la escuela secundaria, pero solo recuerdo palabras al azar como la ardilla y la recta.

(I do not speak any other languages but I wish I had learned them as a child. Basiewicz is obviously not Mexican, but it comes from the Polish side of my family. Until I actually learn how to speak Spanish, I will continue to have help from Google Translate. I took four years of German in high school, but I only remember random words like squirrel and straight.)*

*From the Google Translate

Google translate is an amazing thing. I don’t use it nearly enough, mainly because I do not interact with other languages nearly enough.

I knew from previous conversations that we had in the actual world, or meatspace (as the cyber folk like to call it), that you are of a Mexican heritage with a Polish surname. I am surprised by the four years of German. Who takes four years of German and cannot say “It lies in the ditch.” (Es liegt im Straßengraben) Oddly that was a phrase in a German phrase book that I used in when traveling through Germany in 1992.

Question 9: Where is the farthest you have traveled from Home?

Answer 9: Well, I’m not a hobbit leaving the Shire for the first time but I’m pretty well traveled, I think. I was fortunate as a child that my parents took me on two 2 week trips out west for vacation. I’ve been to 42 states and eleven countries in the Americas and Europe. The furthest place I’ve been to has to be Berlin, Germany. I’ve been as far north as Muskoka, Canada and as far south as Mexico City, Mexico. I’ve only been as far west as Los Angeles. My coverage of the world is pretty vast, however, I’m not sure this is a relevant measure of how far away I’ve been mentally.

It is almost a prerequisite for people I am interested in asking 20 Questions to have traveled fairly extensively. Mainly because the people I find interesting have been places and done things beyond just growing up in their hometown. Some of them might still live in their hometown, but that is clearly a conscious decision because they have been elsewhere.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: I find that I am mostly __________. Others find that I am mostly __________.

Answer 10: Wow, so it’s at question 10 that we get into the deep stuff! Hmmmm... I find that I am mostly really happy! I don’t have a lot to complain about, but do feel the typical range of small and large emotions throughout time. (I don’t feel anger/sadness/grief/bewilderment/elation/etc. daily, but maybe I do throughout a given year, if that makes sense.

Others find that I am mostly angry. This angers me. (Kidding.) I’m not really angry, I am just really cynical and opinionated. I think I’m also very stubborn which is not to say I’m not willing to compromise or listen to others feelings. I’m a “fixer” and hate seeing people hurting or upset. Seeing people hurting emotionally makes me upset and I think I’m being read incorrectly. I’m not angry, but more frustrated that they are not happy. This is where I struggle. My cynicism stems, I think, from my family (genetics) and upbringing (social development).

There are a lot of hotheads in my family who I think have unintentionally instilled a specific mindset within me through my upbringing. Perhaps I have been jaded and learned to judge others with a severe questioning of their motives. Being so closely tied to, and hyper aware of, my emotions is awesome because I can really know myself and discover things about myself. I feel in-tune a lot. However, it’s also a detriment to know too much or place judgement on others and overthink their intentions.

I think socially I have related to people who share this thought process or logic. For example, one of my best friends in Chicago was a major influence on who I am, who I aspired to be like, and challenged me to be a better person. He’s funny but dry, has great values, and is a mentor to me. He’s a great dad and husband and I really look up to him. He’s also the single biggest cynic on this planet. He’s a walking opinion firmly based in logic and he’s mostly right. He’s a calm dude with a long fuse but short temper. Whether I like it or not, by being inspired by him, I’ve become like him. I never aspired to be cynical and opinionated, but perhaps we become those we surround ourselves with.

tl;dr, I guess I could’ve summed this up with “Happy” and “Angry.”

Right-o, Happy and Angry it is. Cynicism can be a double edged sword. I am well aware that due to my own cynical nature, so I can definitely dig the self reflection of happy while outwardly seeming angry.

Sweet mother of mercy. I just used the verb “dig” to mean understand. I think this might be the lowest I have ever sunk on this blog. I would at least have gotten nerd cred if I used “grok.” Alas, no, I used “dig” like I was an extra in a 70’s movie set in southern California. Ugh…

You have your finger on the pulse of popular culture...

Question 11: Is there an out-of-favor pop-term, colloquialism, slang that you wished could make a come-back?

Answer 11: I don’t think anything I used to say as a kid was cool then or would be cool now. Plus, I’d sound like the old parent trying to say the cool thing that all the kids are saying. I’m not fire. I keep it 100.

However, there is one I’d like to kill off. Can we please do away with the “up hill both ways to school” lame-ass joke. It’s never been funny or true and it just sounds like a desperate attempt by an elder to tell youth how rough life was for them back in the day. I just wanna be like, “Yeah, that must have sucked… but not as much as BEING FUCKING SHOT AT IN CLASS!!! Our kids have a new set of problems so sorry about your shitty hill experience. Now that you have adequately toned calves, maybe you can help the next gen not die.” (This might be why people say I’m angry all the time.)

Rant over. >sheepishly steps off soapbox<

I try not to think of the active shooter drills that my kids have at their schools. It is truly frightening. Terrifying. So if it is culturally terrifying, does that make the threat of high capacity semi-automatic fire terrorism? That’s a rhetorical question and not Question 12. You will know when Question 12 comes around because it will be labeled clearly as Question 12. Question 12 tends to be deceptively simple, so hang on to your hat when it is asked.

Question 12: Are you happy? (in general)

Answer 12: Absolutely. I try not to take for granted any of the rewards or benefits I have in life. I also am not quick to forget them. I don’t really gamble. I think because I take pride in earning what I have and see value in the things I have worked hard for. Losing something I’ve worked so hard for severely negatively impacts my disposition. So yeah, I’m definitely happy. I have a lot of great family and friends.

I have asked this question a bunch and only rarely do I get a no as an answer. I think that when people slow down and really look at it, they are mostly happy.

Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals in your day-to-day life (ritual can be as simple as "nobody talk Bob prior to Bob have coffee")?

Answer 13: I don’t really have any hard-and-fast rituals that I must do. I believe, as people, we do have routines we fall into, either by choice or habit, because our brains are wired that way. According to David Brooks, in a book entitled The Social Animal, he refers to two characters (Harold and Erica) to define our behaviors and relationships. He describes how morning rituals like showering, teeth brushing and the like become automatic in order to make room for us to focus our brains on other more taxing mental tasks. Have you ever forgotten your entire drive to work? So, yeah, I guess I do have routines throughout the day, but nothing out of the ordinary.

In terms of superstitions, I’m not exactly a baseball player with their weird walk-up routine, glove adjustments, swing cadence, bat taps, shoe-scuffs, and helmet fixes. I mean, I don’t not have any either. I don’t go around walking under ladders, not because I’m superstitious, but because nothing good can really happen if you do. I’m not really a big believer of broken mirrors/bad luck, crossing a black cat’s path, and stepping on a crack will break your mom’s back. I mean, my mom is just fine, thank you.

Are you certain she is not, in fact, currently suffering from a broken back? An indiscernible, yet slight break? It manifests as a dull ache, but in truth it is a 14% hairline fracture of the L3. I have seen you and your cement crack stepping ways. Crack Stepper.

“Crack Stepper” sounds like a much worse epithet than it would be intended in this case.

Question 14: If you could eat dinner with anyone who ever lived in the world… Anyone ever. Historical figure, departed family member, scientist, artist, whatever, what would you eat? I mean, THAT is some anxiety inducing menu prep.

Answer 14: Usually, when someone phrases the question with being able to eat with anyone ever, but finishes with, “what would you eat?” and not “who would they be?” that may throw one through a proverbial loop. But nay, not I! Instinctually I go immediately to a nice pasta, perhaps a cream sauce or jumbo shrimp scampi (heavy on lemon, butter, garlic and capers) paired with a delicious white wine. But, I quickly think twice about it. Maybe it’s too carb heavy and we’d be ready for a nap post-haste.

Ahh, chicken. Prepared light, a well-seasoned half chicken grilled in a cast iron skillet along with carrots, zucchini, and onion. Crispy skin with a generous sprinkle of thyme and oregano, maybe paired with roasted skin-on baby redskin potatoes and a light sauce made from the stock and chicken oils from the skillet. Again, a white wine to match; Chardonnay or Sauvignon Blanc.

After more thought and taking special consideration into who I will be dining with, I decide against the chicken. I’m drawn to Wings, fish (like salmon filets, roughy, snapper) but I’m finally decided. I’m going with a Smoked Pork Butt. “Butt!?!?” you say! Yeah, butt. And, not just some meat with bbq sauce squirted on sheepishly like some cheap, generic, gray, State Fair meat.

Despite it not actually being a butt, I’m a big fan of smoked foods and bbq. I’d have it slow cooked in a smoker, depending on the size for 10-16 hours, fat side up until it has that nice caramel-glazed glistening crust to it. Brined first in a cider vinegar bath, a mix of brown sugar, ground mustard, cayenne and smoked Spanish paprika (among others) are forked into a combination of olive oil, honey and ketchup (and more secret ingredients) until deliciously combined into a thick paste. Spread thin over the shoulder roast, the meat would rest in a smoker until almost falling off the bone. The fat and meat slightly splitting to reveal a sensual pink smoke ring inside. I like a hefty chop rather than a straight pull. A robust and rich, sweet with subtle fiery-noted barbecue sauce folded into the chop. Good enough to eat singularly, I’d have it served with a creamy sweet slaw on an onion bun, maybe topped with cheese if you like. Best served outside, with laughs, and a ice-cold lager or IPA, depending on preference.

Are you sure you are from Michigan? Because that final answer was from the Deep South of the US. I mean it is some Texas, Alabama, North Carolina shit right there. Less Texas because of the pork, and not so Carolina because of the sauce. Seriously in the Alabama, St Louis, and Tennessee area of BBQ… a sweet slightly spicy sauce with strong smoky undertones added after the fact to smoked pulled-pork. I think you may want to add some sides to accompany the cole slaw though.

Interestingly, one of my previous 20 Questions interviewees loves bar-b-que places because of the sides. He has been a vegetarian for years but cannot get enough deep fried onion rings or rice and creamy mac-n-cheese. He loves going to BBQ joints and trying all the sides that don’t have bacon in them.

I think one can tell a bunch about a person by their choice in food for a meal that they can have with anyone ever. For example, you start out much more formal and end up with more of a communal food that requires casual interaction. There is no sophistication when you have to lick bar-b-que sauce off your fingers to keep it from dripping on your pants as you eat a sandwich. Your fantasy dinner guest meal requires pointing and laughing over shared jokes and lack of adequate paper towels.

I think I need to find a way to eat with you more. That sounds absolutely delectable.

Dammit! I forgot the sides! I’ll settle for being ridiculed by my guest(s) for my lack of foresight into menu prep!

This one is coming out of left field… Question 15: If you were independently wealthy and did not have to work to make the monies, what would you do as your “work?”

Answer 15: If I had just a ridiculous amount of f-you money, I’d just travel to warm places and golf. I’d also take my wife to a lot of beaches, bc ya know, she’s into those. If I couldn’t find a beach, I’d put her in a sand trap and play her sounds of ocean waves, or something. Not exactly calming, especially when there is that whole potential of getting struck by a hard white rock-like thing every 8-10 minutes… Well, I’d probably do something much more romantic than beaching her on a man-made tiny desert with hazardous flying objects, but you get what I’m saying.

You are nothing if not a hopeless romantic.

I would love copious amounts of f-you money. I think I would create my own comic book imprint and get some of my comic peeps published. Every time that I think about how I would spend the 500 million dollars that I would win in the lottery (That I do not currently play) I open a comedy club and start a comic book imprint.

Question 16: Are there any questions you expected me to ask that I have not?

Answer 16: I’ve never been interviewed before and I’m not sure how they typically go, but I’ve never heard Anderson Cooper ask an interviewee, “what are you expecting me to ask you?” Maybe if he was asking a mob boss and feared for his life, he would ask that off camera and then proceed to ask those questions he was told to ask on camera. (That’s also not to criticize your interviewing skills. AC has been around a while…)

I don’t know where this is going. I guess my answer is “no.” TBH, I’m not sure what I was expecting with this whole thing, but it’s pretty fun.

Anderson Fucking Cooper. Always soooo prepared, like this was his job or something. Ugh, "look at my awesome white hair and despair." Anderson Fucking Cooper….

Well, I ask the question because some people think there is a specific reason for me to be asking them questions. Usually people who are a little more in the public eye have expectations about what I will ask. The comedians I ask 20 questions to typically expect questions about comedy. The artists expect “Who are your biggest influences?” or something like that. Since you are in UX and have previously been in marketing advertising, you may have expected UX questions or favorite client questions or something like that. I’m not in your mind. I don’t know what you want or expect. I can’t read minds, Bob! I don’t even know why you would expect that of me.

Honestly, I am surprised you have not been interviewed before. I have a few of those under my belt and I haven’t done shit in my life.

Now for something completely different… Question 17: Who you got for the Stanley Cup this year?

Answer 17: As you know, I really like ice hockey. I played a bit as a kid and regret not playing more frequently. I love Nashville and the Vegas Golden Knights out of the west. Vegas and the Sharks both swept their first round so that should be a fun series. Nashville should be able to take Jets should they surpass Minnesota.

Tampa Bay is a #1 seed playing a wildcard Devils team so they’ll have a harder matchup against, hopefully, Boston who will most likely knock out Toronto. My brother-in-law plays for Boston so I’ll be rooting for him too. #shamelessnonnamedrop I think Boston upsets, advances past TBL, and plays the Jackets. I can’t stand Pittsburgh and they seem to dominate year after year. Hopefully they are knocked down a peg by a solid Blue jackets team. I want CBJ to beat the hell out of the stupid Pens, but sorry CBJ, I think the Pens have too much history and experience in the playoffs. Unfortunately the Pens advance.

West Conf Finals: Nashville vs Vegas. I think Vegas wins in 7.
East Conf Finals: Shitsburgh vs Beantown. Shitsburgh in 6.
Stanley Cup Final: Vegas vs Boston. Vegas wins in 5.
But! I wish the Preds would wins so I could travel down to Nashville to celebrate with my family who are rooting hard for them to win. I also hope Boston wins so my extended Columbus family would be happy. It would be great to see the Blue Jackets win The Cup because they have such a strong team and they are perpetually considered and underdog. Plus, Bobrovsky. Vegas would make history, but I have no rooting interest there.

Anyone but Pittsburgh. Wait, maybe I should clarify. Anyone. But. Pittsburgh.

Is anyone still reading? Go Red Wings!

I used to be so knowledgeable about sports. At one time I could give a relatively informed opinion on most of the major sports in the US. That time has passed. It would take a couple of years to get back to being knowledgeable again. I might make the effort with hockey, but the NFL can go straight to Hell.

So now it is time when I turn the tables. It fears me to do this… but… Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

Answer(?) 18: I wanna open your figurative closet door to meet the skeleton inside to let him dance in the light of day for everyone to see! What is your deepest, darkest secret? (Hey, you asked.)

You have taken too many pucks to the helmet if you think I am going to divulge my deepest darkest secrets on a blog.

I would say the most egregious thing is that I used to be a super conservative/Christian youth from Alabama with tendencies to be sexist, classist, and especially homophobic and racist. It was not until leaving Alabama for college that I started to move past that myopic view of my world. That being said, my foundations are from a conservative/Christian white household in Alabama, so I am still systemically sexist, classist, homophobic and racist. Significantly less so than I was 25 years ago (and even less so than I was yesterday), but I am constantly trying to be alert to past thought patterns and assumptions creeping into and poisoning my current mindset. One does not simply stop being unaware of their privilege and become “woke.” One has to strive every day to become more “woke.”

I like this. One cannot simply flip a switch to become a believer in the opposite ideals of what they were raised to believe. But, they should open their mind to many perspectives in order to gain understanding. Even if they do not agree with the opposing or just slightly differing viewpoint, they can still gain understanding. Being able to feel empathy and understanding for others is a critical social skill and digging heels in (IMO) hasn’t ever gotten anyone anywhere.

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

Answer 19: I’ve find that this feels incredibly more revealing and intimate than simply sharing something via social media. Facebook, and the like, have a very “I’ll-reveal-what-I-wanna-reveal” aspect where this feels more voyeuristic. It feels like people I don’t know are getting to actually know me and yet I know nothing about them. I see why the likes of Jack Nicholson, Johnny Carson, and David Letterman are so recluse and almost never do interviews. Exposing potential vulnerabilities is a really strange feeling for people who aren’t used to it. Aaron Rodgers did an interview with Mina Kimes, a brilliant writer and article written for ESPN The Magazine, where Aaron is revealed to have recorded all of his interviews. He does so to fact check if/when he is quoted so that people cannot take him out of context, and –my assumption– to not misquote, or intentionally misuse his words against him.

“I set my phone on the table and press the record button. He pulls out his and does the same. So he won't be taken "out of context," he explains.”

Even in this interview, I second guess what I have said and I find it funny because I don’t at all find myself “interview” worthy. Regardless, I like the general banter despite it perhaps not coming across as friendly. I was intrigued at a few of the questions as they side-swiped the obvious and often banal yet went for the abstract. I’ve also learned a little about myself now looking back at some of my answers. I wouldn’t change them, but think that some are really revealing or telling about my character. I have reservations and keep some things close to the vest, but with others I’m an open book. I have piss poor hockey analysis, or at least confidence in my “hot takes.” I also have discovered that the fandom in myself fights hard with the actualities and probabilities of what will happen. “If I will it to happen, it will, right?!?! Right?!!?!?!?”

I’ll probably miss doing this. Immensely.

I’m completely insane.

Okay. Well then. That was a thorough answer to the question. You even added a quote with its own attribution. I always love how the 20 Questions always start out light and airy (cake v pie) and eventually reveal some real truths about both of us. I find myself revealing more than anticipated with my questions and my responses to people’s answers, and I am certain that the people I ask the questions reveal more than intended.

Here we are at the last of the 20. This has been a delight. I am very happy that I have gotten to know you better.

Thanks for doing this.

Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like

Answer 20!: I don’t know what is next but I’m excited for it. Generally, I tend to be specific and sometimes I talk philosophically. Soon, I’ll eat a sandwich and maybe, die. (See what I did there?)

Ok, seriously, I don’t know what is next and yes, I truly am excited for it. I have goals and drive, but I keep that kinda stuff buttoned up a bit too. Sometimes, in life, people choose sides. I don’t often reveal plans without knowing who’s truly on my side. I can say that I will continue to kick ass and take names. Great things are going to happen and will keep happening. It’s cliché but, “I’m betting on myself and I’m all in.”

Bob is seriously a wonderful man who is a joy to talk to. You should check out his Instagram where he does not often post @dietbob218 or Twitter where he doesn't often tweet @dietbob218, but to see his design work you should check out his website www.getmebob.com. He is awesome.

To recap:
So… that Avengers movie was something
I am looking forward to Deadpool 2 as well
The Marvel properties are killing in in the theaters
They have been for years now
I have theories on how phase 4 of the MCU is going to go
On a different subject
I am about 90% done with the book I am writing
I had to gut the final fight scenes and the denouement
That’s a fun word… “denouement”
Looks like the book is riding around 200 pages
I am writing all of this down to get the impetus to finish this thing and keep myself honest
I need to be done with the draft and handed off to an editor on June 1
That is my deadline now, June 1
Once I get my edits back I will be asking my artsy friends to do some illustrations for me
Onto another topic
Yesterday was my wife’s birthday
She is amazing and I am lucky to know her
This weekend is Mother’s Day weekend
She is an awesome mother as well
I am lucky
Have a great weekend everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 408 - Susan McGowan

April 4, 2018 Scott Ryan-Hart

Susan McGowan is interested in how I have titled this post

This week I get the wonderful opportunity to ask an actual friend of mine 20 Questions. What?!? Yes, I have actual friends who will actually share enough time with me (at least digitally) to answer my inane 20 Questions. So let’s explore 20 Questions with one of my more hilarious co-workers who is an absolute delight, Susan McGowan. I met Susan earlier this year when she started working at the same place of employment as myself. It turns out that her daughter and my daughter have horse riding lessons at the same barn and sometimes at the same time and in the same class. Oh, and she and I know a surprising amount of the same people from at least 4 different pockets of connections. It really is surprising that we only met this year.

Editor’s note: Susan, over the course of this interview (which only took a few weeks), has had two of her beloved pets “cross the rainbow bridge” (that’s one of the pet euphemisms about pets dying, right?). Anyway, she lost two furry companions in the span of a week and a half. I think it ended up being about 10 days total between pet deaths. That is not much time between pets dying, and incredibly emotionally hard to deal with while full-time jobbing and parenting. I know their passing was hard on her. Needless to say this post is dedicated to those two four-legged members of her family. So everyone, pour some out for Murphy Seidel Herriott-McGowan (cat of the month for an untold number of months running) and Bartleby Herriott-McGowan (her mix Shar-Pei in the hizzay).

So without further ado… 20 Questions with Susan McGowan.

Many people know this little preamble, because I have been doing this for years…. And question one is always the same, but I get new readers and I get people who only read one of these and then drift off to be non-readers, so bear with me faithful readers and welcome aboard new people.

Anyhoo… my professional life started with selling Nordictracks at a mall, but that doesn’t really mean anything. I just did not want to write that my professional life began with making maps and then to get a nasty email from David Metzger the manager of Nordictrack in the Riverchase Galleria Mall. I know he is watching… he is always watching… and waiting....

Umm… where was I? Oh, yes. My real career began with making maps in 1997. I have always loved stories told through the concept of place. For me, my personal geographic story is that I was born outside of Oklahoma City, moved to Montgomery, Alabama when I was super young, moved up to Birmingham, Alabama for the rest of my childhood, and then moved off to college in Kent, Ohio. I followed my fiance to Columbus, Ohio for grad school and marriage and have been in the Columbus area for more than 20 years now. We have settled in Worthington, Ohio (which is an edge city around Columbus, that straddles the I-270 outerbelt). Question 1: What is your geographic story?

The short version of my geographic story is uninspiring--I’ve lived in Ohio my entire life, moving from Cleveland to Wooster for undergrad, then Columbus for grad school. I intended to move to Scotland after that, but I took a job to save up some money, and, like a comfy couch, Columbus sucked me in. Even though I’ve lived here for 22 years, it still feels temporary. Home might always be Cleveland Heights. If I’m very still, I can feel the way it breathes green in the summer and picture some carved corner. I think of Columbus from an aerial view primarily, but Cleveland is a collection of architectural details, old and filthy and beautiful--an American thatched roof, an angel draped over a gravestone, an iron bridge, a cracking tower. I also have roots in Chautauqua, NY, although I’ve never lived there. I grew up spending summers there, got married there, scattered my mother’s ashes there. My dad currently has a little place there, but he will be selling it next fall, around the same time he moves out of Cleveland Heights. I’m not sure where home will be then.

It is an interesting thing when what was home is now, no longer home. That happened for me when I moved away from Alabama. The place only holds memories for me, especially after my parents moved out of my childhood home. The 2 things that killed any and all love for Alabama was the death of my childhood cat in my super-senior year of college, and my parents moving out of my childhood home. The place just is not “home” anymore. You will find a place to call home. It takes time and can be emotionally difficult, but you will find that, and my bet is that it matches up with where you will have the bulk of your memories with your kids.

You seem to not be sheltered like many people who have only lived in (pretty much) one place. Question 2: Do you travel much and what is the furthest from Ohio you have traveled?

I grew up traveling and it’s something I want to pass along to my children. My dad traveled a lot for his job and my mother loved to travel, so if a trip fell during a school break or in the summer, we would go with him. If it was within the US, he’d add a few days on either side, and we’d drive. As a kid, I had winter friends (from school) and summer friends (kids I befriended for a few days in hotel pools, kids whose parents attended the same lighting conferences year after year). As a June birthday, I had as many birthdays on the road (7th picnicking by a stream in the Blue Ridge, 9th in an apartment in DC, 15th in Venice) as I did at home. I complained about that a lot and finally my parents agreed we’d try to be home for a party every other year. That seems so dumb now, but as a kid it felt like the Worst Thing Ever.

By the time I left home, I’d visited 48 states and three continents. I’ve been fortunate to have a best friend who traveled with me for a bit, and then my husband. Having kids has made it harder and more expensive. We persevered with Kid 1, taking her to Iceland and Germany when she was three and I was 6 months pregnant with Kid 2--and she was such a trooper. But Kid 2 is a different beast; we’ve traveled cross country with him, but haven’t ventured overseas. It’s something that kind of kills me.

The furthest from Ohio I’ve been is Israel (twice) and Ghana. I went to Israel once with my youth group in high school, during my religious phase, and as a then-Christian among Christians, it felt like it could be home. The second time, I was there through Journey of Conscience, an organized visit to several of the death camps in Eastern Europe. I was invited as sort of the Poet-in-Residence and one of only two non-Jews on the trip. After the rage and unrelenting sadness at the Holocaust sites, my travelmates got off the little prop plane that had taken us from Warsaw to Tel Aviv and kissed the ground. I felt like I was at a friend’s house for the holidays, where their mom might give me a hug in welcome, but I was still just a guest.

I went to Ghana because my stepsister was a math teacher in a little village there for Peace Corps. Instead of bringing her back to the US for Christmas, my family rented a palazzo in Sicily for a week and she met us there. Since I was already halfway around the world, my best friend* and I decided to return with her to Ghana, figuring it would never be easier than having my stepsister to act as a guide and deal with logistics for us. We flew in and out of Accra, then traveled to her village for a few days. We covered a lot of ground on that trip—not just mileage-wise, but going from celebrating New Years’ with fireworks in a medieval square and drinking limoncello to riding a tro-tro for 10 hours with 15 strangers in a sweaty crush.

*I was dating my now-husband at that point, but I didn’t invite him to join us on this amazing trip, because we were never going to last, something he likes to bring up to this day.

Well, I think you may have mis-stated earlier. You have been to 4 continents, not merely 3. You have graced North America, Europe, Africa, and Asia. You’ll need to update that in your travel log. You are only 3 away from collecting the set. I, sadly, have only been to a measly 2 continents, but once we kick the kids out of the house… Nothing. But. Travel!

That’s funny; I always put Israel in Africa, but the Internet says you’re right.

Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific kind and why?

Totally pie. If you match random pie vs random cake, 90% of the time, pie will be the victor. Pie comes with pi puns and a day dedicated to celebrating it; cake makes you choose between cake or death and we all know the cake is a lie. As for specifics, the #1 pie is sour cream peach. Somewhere below that, in vaguely ranked order: pecan, butterscotch, blueberry, bumbleberry, chess, and sweet potato.

Of course, the question itself is flawed, because sticky toffee pudding is neither cake nor pie and is the best dessert on earth.

Sticky toffee pudding was not in the question, because the question was not “What’s your favorite dessert-like food?” ugh… Do you like cats or dogs? I like cats more, but sugar gliders are the best. And sweet potato pie is an affront to humanity because it tries to disguise itself as pumpkin pie. Sweet potatoes are the devil’s food, but not like “devil’s food cake” devil’s food, but like the “made of lies and tormented dreams” devil’s food.

Question 4: What do you consider to be the “made from lies and tormented dreams” devil’s food?

You have the “devil’s weed”, which is cilantro, but anti-cilantro rants are boring--it’s like the Mac/PC debate that geeks-in-training like to drag you into. I despise avocados--why would anyone willing eat swamp-flavored butter? But--and maybe it’s the phrasing that confuses me, but what’s really made of lies is yogurt. Is it a dessert? A cheese? “Hey, I’m like healthy ice cream! Good people eat me! I’m breakfast-ready pudding!” Those are the devil’s lies. Yogurt is a grave disappointment 99% of the time. Actually, 100% of the time. The other 1% is when you mistakenly eat pudding and think “this is the best damn yogurt ever”.

Cilantro is a loved or hated item, it is not a surprising selection at all. People who love it, want it on everything, while people who hate it, hate people who love it. Also, I think I will start referring to avocados as “swamp butters” from now on. This yogurt thing surprises me, because yogurt is so unusually innocuous. Who hates beige? I am sure people do, but it beige is so blah, which is what yogurt is, beigy blah.

Again, I may have just been misconstruing your language about “made of lies and tormented dreams”, but that’s why yogurt makes the list. It’s made of lies.

I know for a fact that you have held some odd jobs (while not being Odd Job from the Bond films). So, I started into the professional world by selling NordicTrack exercise equipment in mall retail stores for most of my undergrad years, then I worked at Barnes & Noble for a bit, then I was a graduate assistant in the Department of Geography teaching GIS and cartography labs, from there I went to a local engineering architecture firm as a transportation planning cartographer, then I became the GIS technician for the Department of Geotechnical Engineering for the Ohio Department of Transportation. From there I switched careers entirely and went into user experience design as an interaction designer. Question 5: What is your professional journey?

My first non-babysitting job was working retail at an antiques shop where I did table displays of Staffordshire figurines and dusted a lot. Then, I apprenticed to a rare book dealer. I spent one summer temping at Office Max world headquarters, blacking numbers out of reports with Sharpies, like the guy in Catch-22. In grad school, I taught English 101 and beginning poetry workshops and worked as a research assistant for David Citino.

After I graduated, I was hired as a researcher to develop content for an educational computer game company. After a few months, my boss asked if I wanted to learn to code. Three months later, I made my first game--Magnificent Marlena’s Mind-Bending Magic Show, a sequence game. I loved this job--storyboarding, coding, troubleshooting, plus I did most of the female voices in our games. I truly believe learning to code changed my life.

When the company started going under, I left to go to library school and worked as a writer for the International Dark-Sky Association, a non-profit dedicated to reducing light pollution. During that time, I took on additional freelance writing, editing, and research gigs. I published a few magazine articles and had a nice stretch with the Armchair Reader series, contributing to Weird, Scary, and Unusual and a few others. I realized that I was making more as a writer than I would as a librarian, so I dropped out of school. A friend who worked for a healthcare marketing agency reached out, asking if I had ever done digital QC. I said I’d give it a try, and the 6 hours a week turned into full time. I created the processes, the team grew to ten people--it was thriving, but I hated it.

During this time, I started hearing about UX. I found a few people at the agency who were interested in it as well, and through good fortune and kindness, I got a mentor and a workstream and started the UX team at the agency with a handful of people. The agency decided it didn’t want to support UX work, so it was time to leave. I moved to an edtech startup at Ohio State’s College of Education as the Director of Product and User Experience. I was there for three glorious years, then the funding was pulled and the company went under. From there, I came to the UX team at my current employer, where I met you.

That is a pretty interesting list of jobbies. I had not realized how much the English language was your playground. I just thought you might be kind of verbose, but you are officially verbose. Well done.

Since you are an English aficionado, and since I like me some language arts. Question 6: What is one word in the English language that you feel is getting short shrift? What word is not being used enough and is ready for a resurgence?

I don’t know how to answer this--that’s like asking me to pick a favorite child. How could anyone choose between mirepoix and fungible? Acanthopterygian and flibbertigibbet? Frangipane and salacious? Picking a word is like wandering through a fabric store--a rush of textures and colors. Words should feel good in the mouth, be a bit of a surprise for the listener and the user, and delight the ear.

For my job at the game company, my first assignment was to write a 10,000-word dictionary and it was so much fun. I combed through other dictionaries to find words, then wrote my own definitions to avoid copyright infringement. The president of the company was a word person too, so we met for three hours every day to go over the previous day’s words--good gravy, how we argued over the minutiae of definitions. There are some perfectly good words, such as hirsute and parka that didn’t make it into our database because neither of us would budge*.

There is a wonderful children’s book called Ounce, Dice, Trice that is the closest thing I’ve found to being in my brain, the way it savors and plays with words. The kindest thing you could do for a budding poet in your life is to keep them far away from this book and tell them to develop some useful skills, otherwise, they will be forever lost.

*He was incredibly wrong on both counts, however, and I’m still quite bitter. Almost as bitter as the time my 3rd-grade class played Scattergories and didn’t believe that indigo was a real color, the little heathens. Words matter, people. Words matter.

...okay. I was just thinking that “whilst” should be used more. This is clearly a topic that you feel strongly about. I know what mirepoix, fungible, frangipane, salacious, hirsute and parka mean, but I am at a loss for acanthopterygian, and think I know what flibbertigibbet means but did not know that it was a recognized word in the English language.

Acanthopterygian means descriptive of a spiny-finned fish, such as a bass or perch. TMYK.

Question 7: Do you think that the English language can rightfully claim words such as salsa and mirepoix as its own even though those words belong to a different language?

Absolutely. I love English for its gelatinous cube-like quality of picking up and holding anything in its path--in this case, great words from other languages. I don’t think we’d be able to make or eat salsa if we called it something else. The Anglo-Saxons ate onions, but they didn’t know about tomatoes or the “demon weed”, so we’d be looking to another language anyway. It might be called relish or chutney, but both of those stem from India, so why is borrowing from Hindi, but not Spanish or French? Pretty much, unless we’re talking about livestock, root vegetables, or war, we’re going to borrow words. It seems nicer to keep them with some semblance of their original pronunciation. Though give it a few centuries and I’m sure we’ll manage to turn mirepoix into something like “murrypoy”.

+2 to Int for use of gelatinous cube, but sadly -1 to Cha. Even though geeky things are “in” right now, overly deep cuts into geeky things are still surprisingly negatively geeky. I don’t write the rules, I just enforce them (which gives me a -2 Cha modifier to old skool geeks). Also, “murrypoy” sounds like a name and is not any easier to say than “mirepoix.” If Americans have anything to say about it, the linguistic shift will be from “mirepoix” to “merpo” or something else that sounds less sophisticated. Americans can be soooo un-sophisticated.

I didn’t know what Cha meant, but my husband stepped into the room, wearing +1 flannel armor and immediately got a -3 to his Cha by knowing the answer, but he’s used to it.

Question 8: How many animals do you have in your household?

Currently, not counting children, we have four. Bartleby the shar pei butler dog and then three cats: Murph the Cat (not to be confused with our late Murph the Dog, and winner of Cat of the Month for 200+ months!), Rory the Round, and Wunk (née Duncan) the Dim. The cats are all orange by royal fiat.

That is a bunch of wee beasties in the house. When my wife and I were married (over 20 years ago now… how the hell did that happen??!? {that’s not the question, do not answer that question!!!}), we immediately got 2 cats. They were our marriage cats. Lenny was a Russian Blue, and Señor Don Gato (was a cat, meow meow meow) was a solid black lump of milk cap fetching love. Señor Don Gato’s name eventually truncated to just Señor. Señor then became Señor Von Beanor, and eventually just to Bean. Question 9: How did Duncan’s”regal Scottish king’s name devolve into the less regal “Wunk?”

First, let me disabuse you of how regal poor Duncan’s name is. At the time my daughter named him, she was very much into the dreadful show “Total Drama Island” on which the character Duncan is a villainous, scheming emo-punk. I requested that whatever we named the cat have Scottish flavor, so that’s what she chose. Duncan branched into Dunk, Punk, and Punkin, but he is not smart, and we quickly started looking for less-intelligent variations. He spent some time as Wunkin. Wunkish. Wunky Woo-woo. Wunky Wunk and the Funky Pants. You know, the usual. At my last job, my daughter wrote Wunk all over a process diagram I was working on. WUNK. WUNKIN. YOU MUST KNOW HE IS A POUFE [sic]. This evolution is the way of things. Sadly, since having all of his teeth removed, Murph (the cat) has become Moop. This is the way of the world.

Right… so no “Duncan Wunkan.” Occam’s Razor be damned. I would not have thought the path from Duncan to Wunk would be a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon-esque path. Don’t get me wrong, the actual path is way more interesting, just more surprising as well.

Question 9: What is something that you think people would be surprised about you?

This question has been hard to answer, mostly because I’m bad at predicting what surprises people. I think the answer depends on which person, and how do they know me.

o If you know me now, you might be surprised that I was a fundamentalist in my early teens.

o If you knew me in my early tweens, you might be surprised that I was a paranormal investigator.

o If we went to college together, you are often very surprised to learn I married Mark.

o If you knew me in high school, you might be surprised to learn that I’m smart; if you knew me after high school, you might be surprised that I used to practice batting my eyelashes and giggling because I thought I was hopelessly stupid and tried to cover it up.

Again, it’s all context. But I’m a Gemini and we’re just a delightful mess of contradictions.

The thing is, I love it when people surprise me, which they always do. My favorite poems are made of details that are like delicious little salt crystals, and so are people. Uncovering a surprise is a burst of flavor. In high school, a friend was detailing some minutiae of her life and I responded with the clever ‘I’m like, wow” and she snapped, “Susan, you’re always like ‘wow’.” She meant it as a bad thing, but I think it’s part of my charm. This thing I just learned about you? Wow.

The fundamentalist thing is super surprising to me. I was pretty thick in the religion when I was a youngun as well. The somewhat racist reaction from my childhood church burned that bridge below its caissons. I was already tottering on the edge of leaving the churchiness behind, and then there was the reaction to whom I was going to marry.

For me, it was a few things. A) I had made somewhat of a career of dating Jewish men, and they found that unacceptable. B) I was given a talking to about listening to the “wrong sort” of Christian rock. But the final straw was when they told me that my mother’s death was “all in God’s plan.” There’s no excuse for that—none.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: I find that I am mostly _____________. Others think that I am mostly _________.

I think/feel/imagine myself to be mostly Fluttershy. Others think/feel/imagine me to be mostly Twilight Sparkle, although Mark, and possibly he alone, finds me to be Rarity.

Fluttershy, Twilight Sparkle, and Rarity

I so do not want to know about any potential cutie mark //shudder.

Question 11: So, why do you think others feel you are a magical problem solving princess, your partner sees you as a magical and giving seamstress, and you think you are mainly known for being a caretaker? And why don’t you think anyone thinks you are Applejack?

Interesting. I think others see me as bookish and well-read. Mark sees me as refined and polite. I see myself as a burbling mess of insecurity. I don’t think anyone thinks I’m an extroverted hick. I mean, maybe they do, but that’s not one that’s filtered back to me.

That cartoon was a bizarre one. It seemed relatively innocuous and fun for young girls and then the weird movie thing came out where the ponies became overly sexualized horse/girl/furries. It really made me sad to see this cartoon where young girls/women who happened to be ponies of some kind were able to overcome obstacles though friendship and understanding turned into anthropomorphized teenage horse girls. Seemed to be catering to the furry bronie more than the kids.

So… a few years ago I did a 20 Questions with a French podcaster, Patrick Beja, and this delightful gentleman brought me to the most deceptively simple questions I have ever been asked or have asked. So, without further ado… Question 12: Are you happy?

I’ve really been pondering this one. I am happy. I’m a happy person--I’ve always been kind of emo, even as a kid, but generally, I trend to happy. I’m also happy in this moment--I can’t promise about the moment before or what will come next, but this moment is perfect and I am content in that.

That said, I’m depression’s bitch, if you’ll pardon the language. I recognize this, and am trying to learn to separate what is real, and what is that smothering, gray blanket in my head, but it’s hard. I had post-partum after my my daughter was born, sought treatment, then went off it when I was trying to get pregnant again. My son’s birth was so traumatic that I didn’t recognize it--I thought I was just grieving that, but it’s eight years later and the sun hasn’t come out yet. I thought I could fight it on my own, and I am slowly realizing I just can’t.

Depression is a lying liar that constantly lies. Honest to goodness depression is not something that can be navigated by oneself. Depression is misassociated with the idea of people being “sad.” It is not merely big sustained sadness, but a fundamental brain chemistry issue that cannot just be pushed to the side by a smile and some M & M’s (not saying that M & M’s couldn’t help… well, the peanut butter M & M’s or the white chocolate ones… the caramel ones are terrible, and they should not be). I suffer from it, and no many people who suffer from it on a a daily basis. Seriously people, depression sucks, and the people who have to deal with it, do better when they do not have to deal with it by themselves. So, hug someone you care about, but don’t hug them in a weird way that takes just a beat or two too long.

Here we are at an unlucky question for triskaidecaphobics… Question 13: Do you subscribe to any superstitions or rituals?

If I let my brain do what it wants, I would be too busy touching oak, building altars, and sourcing silver to keep in my pocket to get anything done. At heart, I want to embrace superstition and bury my face in it. When I was little, I used to say a series of prayers at night, and I was fairly certain that if I got them out of order, I would die. I think this is why I was such an easy mark for religion. I have spent most of my adult life, walking the fine line between rational and batshit crazy. I joined my paranormal investigation group as a skeptic, because I really did yearn to find something magical, something beyond the rational. I was a skeptic, though, and joined a group that tried to find scientific evidence, so at the same time I was searching, I was also walling myself off from that possibility. I want proof that is based on more than just a feeling, because I don’t trust my brain to do what’s right.

I remember crying after seeing my grandma, several years before she died. I told my husband (who had once been a phone psychic), that I had a premonition that it was the last time I would see her. He said that it was possible, but that our brains don’t remember all the times we have premonitions that DON’T come true—and that’s stuck with me. I did see her after that, many times, and if he hadn’t said that, I would have forgotten how sure I felt. That’s why I can’t trust my brain—it lies.

All that said, I still believe in saying “good night”, “I love you”, or “See you soon”, rather than “good bye”. I believe you should start as you intend to end, so birthdays, New Year’s, and other beginning/end holidays should involve physical and emotional contact with the people you love best in the world. I believe in kissing on footbridges and saying “gesundheit”. I light the wicks of every new candle that comes into the house, although I’m not sure why—I learned that at the antique store. I try to light a candle on Yom Hashoa. I am incapable of not touching wood, but I try to do it secretly. I say thank you to animals we eat and apologize to the bugs I kill. And if there’s a special place, I find myself talking to it—like Lake Chautauqua. I don’t particularly respect these things about myself, but it is what it is.

I don’t think this was the direction you meant the conversation to go, and really revealed more about the soft squishy bits than I meant to. I wish I had a meditation practice or could say breezily, oh, yeah, I do yoga every morning. That’s what normal people do.

Even though you did not directly answer the question, you did thoroughly answer it. I have a couple of reactions to some of what you wrote.

One: I have often found that skeptics want the paranormal to be real much more than believers. Skeptics truly want these phenomena to be real, and try their darndest to prove it. Believers tend to just believe without questioning wholesale the thing that they believe in. I have found this is true for many highly religious people and flat-earthers as well.

Two: “Good night,” “I love you,” and “see you soon” is one of the best rituals I can think of.

Three: Let’s be clear, normal people don’t do yoga every morning. Yoga people do yoga every morning. If they have an issue, they “take it to the mat.” I hate myself a little more for just typing that out.

So, this paranormal investigation group thing has come up, so I feel like I need to dig. Question 14: So what types of things did you investigate and what supernatural thing do you most want to be real?

The group was The Ghosts of Ohio so we specialized in...wait for it...ghosts, but I don’t believe we ever turned down a call. We did private investigations for property owners who contacted us. We’re not allowed to talk about our those, but we did everything from private homes in quiet neighborhoods to historic structures and places of business. We also did investigations of places that were open to the public, researched local legends (Helltown, crybaby bridges, etc.), collected folklore about any number of things.

The founder, Jim Wills, is a local paranormal historian and one of the authors of Weird Ohio. I didn’t have kids then, and Jim was one of my closest friends, so we spent a lot of time wandering through cemeteries together. (In fact, check out the title page and p. 248 of Weird Ohio!).

As for what I most want to be real? Ghosts for sure. The thought of nothingness when you die terrifies me. Also, fairies--the grotesquely beautiful fairies of Brian Froud’s world--because I so very much want there to be magic in this world. That is, when I allow myself to believe in it.

I think I had some kind of ghostly encounter when I was a kid, but I have chalked that up to the overactive imagination of a 5 or 6 year old (I don’t remember how old I was at the time). That is a story for a different time. My favoritest thing for paranormal stuff is cryptids. I want so many of the legendary creatures to be real. It would be amazing if even one of them was conclusively proven real.

Question 15: In all of these paranormal investigations did you (specifically you) ever experience something ghostly, or did you suffer the equivalent of Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle and effect the outcome by trying to observe it? Honestly if you did, that would be kind of burying the lead a bit.

I never did, although for a while, I tried to feel like things other people experienced were just as good as experiencing them myself. At one investigation, my first, Jim recorded a cold spot that moved down the hall towards him and I would tell people about that, as if it meant something. But after a while, you start asking yourself why you’re never the one to get an aberrant reading, see something strange, catch the EVP. Jim always said that he imagined crowds of ghosts scurrying into hiding when they saw us pulling up in the driveway, and laughing and waving at us as we left, so it’s a known thing that when people are looking, they don’t find anything. But when the group shifted from entirely recordable data to giving weight to things like seeing orbs and feeling feelings, it seemed time for me to leave. It felt like a club that I wasn’t part of, if that makes sense.

When I was in 8th or 9th grade, in the heat of my Fundamentalist phase, I went to sort of a Christian Woodstock (a Christian Lollapalooza?) with my youth group. On the final night, there was a big revival before we boarded the bus to drive home in the dark. Once on the bus, one of the girls in my group--one of the “good” ones, the ones who prayed publicly and was known to be particularly godly--began sobbing, saying she saw an angel and he was shaking his head and expressing his disappointment. Soon the whole bus was filled with weeping teenagers claiming to have seen or felt that angel. I didn’t see an angel. I hugged my friends while they cried and prayed with them, but as with the ghosts, I was an outsider, not one of the blessed.

That’s what I don’t get--what’s the point of having this irrational part of my brain, the part that wants ghosts, that wants God, that wants fairies and magic, if I’m meant to only ever witness the supernatural touching others?

You don’t get to ask me questions until Question 18. I know you have read some of these, I cannot believe that you thought you could just randomly ask me a question in the middle of this. I am shocked at this behavior. Shocked!

As I stated earlier, the skeptical want desperately to believe, it is just that their threshold of believability is much stricter. I can easily see you on the fringe of the paranormal and on the fringe of the fundamental. I think they are different colors of the same mask. There is a level of faith required for both fundies and believers that logic just won’t work with.

Question 16: Are there any questions you expected me to ask that I have not?

“What is your favorite song/album/band/Spotify playlist/type of music?” I absolutely hate that question, but it’s de rigueur, isn’t it? I know so many people who claim to judge your worth based on the answer, and I feel like it gets too close to the soft underbelly. We were listening to Spotify the other day and Mark said “What is this playlist? I have no idea what’s going on here.” I said it was just things I’d favorited. He said that made sense, how it was at once bizarre, yet familiar. That’s me. Bizarre. Yet familiar.

There are many questions that tend to be de rigueur that are really horrible questions. The most often one I have seen is the “what’s your favorite X?” That is a tired and boring question.

Comedy dictates that my next question be something about identifying your favorite of some category, but today I am eschewing comedy dictates. You hear that, Comedy? Eschewing!

Question 17: What would the God of All Comedy be named, if you could name the God of All Comedy? For the purposes of this post, you do, indeed, have that power.

I’m an agnostic, so I’m not sure if there is a God of ALL Comedy, but a few Halloweens ago, Mark and I dressed as two of the lesser gods you might not have heard of--Dorfeus, god of Dad jokes, and Purrsephone, goddess of cat memes.

My go to names for gods of humor are Mirthcoatl the Omnijocular or Brosadi the Norn or Humor. That being said, I do not have “go to’s” for a god of humor name. I just came up with them for this post, but I like them verily.

Now it is time for me to turn the tables. Question 18: Do you have any questions you want to ask me?
I love asking questions and hearing people spin their yarns, so I have ALL the questions for you.
What keeps you going?
What keeps you up at night?
What makes your skin crawl?
What taste, smell, or sound turns you into a kid again?
What do you try not to remember?
What do you hope to learn through these questions?
How much is enough?
It’s hard, because what I really want is a bottle of wine, and the ability to respond to some of your responses with more questions, but this is a start.

Alright… here we go.
In general, curiosity keeps me going.
Worrying about the kids and having to deal with emotions I try not to deal with keep me up at night.
Spiders make my skin crawl.
Not much will turn me into a kid again… maybe dealing with my parents for more than a day at a time will throw me into some not so great childhood patterns. Does that count?
I will not tell you what I try not to remember. Nope, not going to happen.
I hope to learn more about people, because I like people in the abstract… I tend to not actually like people though.
Enough is enough.

So… Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring with you?

I discovered that I actually love talking about myself, even though it’s ingrained in me to deny that vehemently. I don’t think I looked my depression in the eyes and gave it a nod until we discussed happiness here. And I don’t think I truly understood how starting your career trajectory at NordicTrak can put you on the path to success before this; I regret some earlier life choices.

Not just anyone could start their worklife at NordicTrack, and no one can start in their retail arm anymore. The 90’s were the absolute best for niche retail stores in malls. Anyhoo… the happiness question is always an introspective one.

Here we are at the last. Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like

In the short term, we are opening up the house and trying to dig out. Things have been rough, with two beloved pets dying in the last month. Spring is a good time to open all the french doors in our house that were closed to keep ailing pets out, to remove puppy pads, to let in some light. I need to get back to work--I owe a dear friend a poem, and frankly, I owe myself a poem. And it’s time to travel, to see new things, to taste new things, and to make a few new lists, because life doesn’t doesn’t seem to have direction without one. Beyond that, things are fuzzy, and not just because of all the cats.

Susan's partner, Mark with Bartleby and Murphy

The problem with flinging open the doors in Central Ohio is that the weather is so volatile, you will want to fling them closed again almost instantly. In the time since Susan flung open her doors (answered this last question) it has snowed twice... maybe three times.

I have adored this 20 Questions Tuesday greatly, and am very happy to know more about Susan. Everyone should give her a follow on the Twitters (@selimacat) even though she does not tweet much and on the ‘Grams (@selimacat).

She is an absolute delight and everyone should get to know her primarily because she is an introvert and that would freak her out.

To recap:
Plumber and painter in the house this week
Oh, and had to get a new over the range microwave as well
It does really come in threes
My kid really likes the Overwatch League
I find myself being sucked into it somewhat
My heel/plantar fasciitis is still a little ouchy
I realize this is a Wednesday
But I was not able to get the post formatted yesterday
It takes time
This blogging platform does not keep the formatting I already do on the documents
So I have to reformat everything
It is an arduous process
I just want to make sure all of you know that I suffer for my art
I don’t really
I was tired last night and didn’t feel like doing it
So this becomes a Wednesday post
Deal with it
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20 Questions Tuesday: 393 - Chris Mancini

September 19, 2017 Scott Ryan-Hart

This week I get the opportunity to ask one of the hosts of one of my favorite podcasts 20 Questions. Chris Mancini is a comedian/podcaster/director/author who I have followed for years now. He is the co-host of the Comedy Film Nerds podcast wherein he and the other host, comedian Graham Elwood and a guest talk about movies in the theaters, trailers of upcoming movies, and movies that are on-demand and coming out on DVD. Chris is one of the creators of the podcasting documentary Ear Buds, he is writing a graphic novel I backed on Kickstarter, and really is a nuanced critic of movies. So, I know he is very knowledgeable of movies, is constantly creating, and is a dad, but that is about all I know of him. So, let's get to know him better through these 20 Questions.

In a previous job, I was a cartographer. I love maps and mapmaking and the idea of stories being told with the concepts place. Specifically I love people's personal geographic stories. For example, I was born outside of Oklahoma City, OK, moved to the Birmingham area in Alabama and stayed there until I went off to school in Kent, Ohio. I graduated from Kent State and followed my soon to be wife down to Columbus, Ohio for grad school and have lived in the greater Columbus area for over 20 years now. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

I was born in Havertown, PA and then moved to West Chester PA in 4th grade. I then moved to Philadelphia to go to college for Film and start my stand-up career. I graduated from Temple University with a degree in communications. I then moved to LA in my mid-twenties and have been banging my head against the entertainment industry ever since.

Pretty much a Pennsylvania to LA track. That is pretty direct and compact. I know that you are a stand up, so I am sure you have been to most (if not all) the states in the US. Question 2: Any states left of the 50 that you have not been to?

Yes, I’ve never been to Alaska or Maine. The northern extremes. And really want to get to both at some point.

This summer may family took a trip to Alaska, and my mother-in-law's favorite place ever is Maine. Both are wonderful places.

Now to my Question 3 which is a directly stolen idea from a classic Paul F Tompkins bit. Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific kind and why?

I’ve always loved peach pie with vanilla ice cream. It has fruit in it so I can pretend I’m eating something healthy.

Peach pie is a super Georgia thing. Rarely have I encountered someone who loves peach pie who has not spent some time in the Peach State.

Question 4: Where and how did you come into contact with a peach pie a la mode?

When traveling down south, of course.

I did walk right into that one.

Question 5: Is there a movie genre you cannot help yourself from watching even if you know the particular movie you are about to watch is going to be terrible?

Unfortunately, Action. The state of action movies could be a LOT better than it is. We have Fast and Furious, but they are tongue-in-cheek. We need more Mad Max, less Transformers.

Mad Max: Fury Road was really something impressive.

Question 6: Do you think the paucity of quality action movies is due to lack of people able to write action well, lack of directors being able to direct action well, or that the studios don't understand action movies?

I think it’s a combination of all those things. When there is a little success on an action movie, the studios milk it to death, like the Bourne franchise. And even those early ones the action was mostly hidden with quick cuts and closeups. It was infuriating when you have an action movie and you can’t see the action.

That is one reason why I think John Wick (for better analysis of John Wick and John Wick: Chapter 2 watch the Movies with Mikey reviews by Mikey Neumann) was such a nice breath of fresh air. The action is mainly in frame and not sped up, and super practical. I agree that, I think that the studios rely way too much established properties (re: Bourne). I guess, the insane levels of risk aversion is a pretty significant deterrent for the studios.

So, you have written a book, are writing a graphic novel, made short films, made a documentary, do stand-up, podcast about movies and produce/edit a movie themed website... Question 7: Any kind of content creation that you haven't done that you want to try your hand at? and of these things listed, which is the one you find most comfortable?

Writing has and always will be my first love. I’d like to just be doing more of that. And of all the writing, I love writing scripts the most. I’m finding writing the graphic novel very rewarding because it’s a screenplay come to life as I’m converting it. I’d just like to do more comic, film, and television writing. Although I am launching a new scripted anthology podcast soon called “Conversations From the Abyss” that I’m VERY excited about. I’m hoping to get it launched in the next month or so. Listeners of Welcome to Night Vale and The Thrilling Adventure Hour will recognize some familiar voices.

"Conversations From the Abyss" sounds like it could be really fun. (Editor’s Note: It is a great bite-size podcast. It has the perfect amount of creepiness, everyone should listen to it. I have enjoyed each episode more)

I did a NaNoWriMo a few years back about a c-list superhero and some of the shenanigans he got himself into. This November I want to refine that story and clean it up. There are so many things that need edited and fleshed out. I have been mulling over how it is put together for some time and feel that I am far enough away from the writing exercise to give it some strong editing. I might try and self-pub this and sell at Cons of something. All this to say that writing certainly has some real allure.

Question 8: What is the hardest aspect of writing that you encounter?

Lately it’s been finding the time to sit down and do it. I have too many plates spinning in the air and need to let a few go so I have more time to write.

Interestingly, for the people I have interviewed who are writers, but are not solely employed as writers, this is the answer I always get back. Time seems to be the limiting factor between creative expression, work/life balance, family etc...

If we only had more time there would be significantly more creative endeavors going on out there.

Question 9: What about writing do you find to be the most rewarding?

The most rewarding thing about writing is when it gets out into the world and is actually read or seen, depending on if it was a book or a script. One of the most satisfying things I’ve done recently is take an old screenplay (Long Ago and Far Away) that got some traction in Hollywood but ultimately never got made and turn it into a graphic novel which is being worked on right now. I can’t wait for people to read it.

Oh, I am quite aware of "Long Ago and Far Away." That is one of the 36 Kickstarters that I have backed and been funded. I am 36 for 36 on Kickstarters. I'm less a Kickstarter backer and more of a Kickstarter fairy. I back a project... it gets funded. Boom. In all truthfulness, I love the concept for the story of "Long Ago and Far Away," and I cannot wait to read it.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: I find that I am mostly _____. Others find that I am mostly _____.

1)Stretched too thin.

2)Busy. I know they go hand in hand, but I’d like to get to a place where I’m busy but not struggling to keep up with everything.

"Pleasantly busy" is a laudable goal. It is also a very fine line to hit. I am sorry that you feel stretched too thin, because that is a hard space to be in.

Question 11: What is one small thing that you would like to add or change in your life that would help with the "stretched too thin" feeling?

Getting an assistant.

Attainable goal. Seriously attainable if you are willing to work with a remote assistant.

Deceptively simple question... Question 12: Overall, are you happy?

Yes. But I’d be happier if I had an assistant.

Again, attainable goal. More happiness may be just around the corner. Your assistant could put it in your calendar.

Here we are at the "unlucky 13," so... Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals in your life?

When I write and get into the zone, I always put music on. It helps me concentrate.

I think, more than any other profession I have interviewed, writing is the most ritualistic, but really cerebrally ritualistic. The rituals seem to be associated with setting the stage and getting a proper environment. For example, one of the other comic book writers I interviewed cannot start writing until he's done a crossword puzzle.

Music while writing makes sense on a very deep level. Question 14: Does the music choice when writing influence the writing, or does the writing influence the music choice?

I often listen to Coldplay when writing comedy and Death Cab for Cutie when writing horror. They just seem to be good soundtracks for what I'm writing.

That is very interesting. I would not think that Chris Martin would lead one to comedic insights. Death Cab for Cutie makes sense on some level, but the Coldplay reveal is interesting to say the least.

Coldplay's "Yellow" off of A Head Full of Dreams... it's Hilarious

It seems that comedy tends to rely on an set-up with an unexpected reveal, whereas horror seems to be about the suspenseful build-up and reveal. This is my understanding, but my understanding could be completely flawed. Question 15: What do you like about writing comedy and what do you like about writing horror?

They are two sides of the same coin. Both evoke an emotional response, via setup and payoff, albiet opposites: Joy or Fear. Comedy, Horror, and Parenting are all more closely related than people think.

I have often felt that comedy and horror are a razor thin line away from each other... at least in movies... It is very easy to have a horror transition into comedy. Bad horror movies sometimes end up being hilarious. Bad comedies can simply be horrendous, but necessarily scary.

Question 16: Is there a question or a topic you were expecting me to ask that I have not?

No. I’ve learned to “manage my expectations”.

That seems a little bitey with the quotes and all. Ouch.
The good news is that we are on the home stretch, and even though we are not done, I want to thank you for lasting this long. Some people do not.

Question 17: If you were to make a straight up action movie, what action movie trope would you want to try and flip?

Ha. More about “managing my expectations” for the entertainment industry in general rather than this interview. If I were making an action movie, I would flip the “ex navy seal” trope and make it an ordinary guy, and make an action version of “Falling Down”.

I would watch that.

Now, I am nervous because it is time for me to flip the roles. Question 18: Are there any questions that you would like to ask me?

What’s your favorite animated movie and why?

This is a difficult one... so I will give you a few, and maybe in my reasoning I will land on one.

Fire and Ice by Bakshi... my absolute favorite as a kid. It is gorgeous, but due to the rotoscoping and, let's say, the not quite timeless material, I don't think it holds up that well.

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm... quite possibly one of the best Batman stories I have ever seen in a theater. It is almost forgotten, but it was a great capstone to the 90's animated series.

Inside Out... is a great and nuanced story that is told in a very delightful and inventive way. That movie is Pixar hitting on all cylinders.

I know I am omitting a bunch of other really amazing animated movies, but those are the three I fall back on.

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not come in with?

That it's actually fun to be interviewed piecemeal.

I have found that this process is very interesting due to the amount of time the "interview" spans. People are sometimes in radically different places in their lives from beginning to end. For one interview I was doing, the person went from being a young married guy to being an expectant father... His tone of his answers at the end of the 20 questions were very different than when he began. It is an interesting process.

Here we go with the final question. Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like.

I’m not sure what’s next but here’s what I want it to be, no matter what it is: New, Fun, and successful.

Thanks so much! This was a fun one. Everyone should follow Chris. He has his Comedy Film Nerds and Conversations from the Abyss podcasts. He has his book, "Pacify Me: A Handbook for the Freaked Out New Dad," that you can buy. He is in the process of fulfilling a graphic novel on Kickstarter (which I imagine will be available for purchase somewhere eventually), called Long Ago and Far Away. He has his documentary, “Ear Buds: The Podcasting Documentary” for sale and rent on all digital platforms now as well (it is a surprisingly poignant documentary that everyone who consumes anything on the internet anywhere should watch.)

Seriously, everyone should give consume some of the amazing content that Chris is making and give him a follow on Twitter and FaceBook.

To recap:
I should have formatted this post much earlier today
I’m hungry
Like REALLY HUNGRY
Not like for human flesh or anything, but hungry enough
I might not have had a significant lunch
If “significant lunch” is defined as “more than a bag of chips”
That could be an issue
I am planning on heading to Cincinnati Comic Expo this weekend
I will be hanging out with Bill Grapes
It will be awesome
I might be able to pick up some commissions whilst there
Commissions could be nice
As long as it is not another Plastic-Man v Godzilla
That was hard to do just because of the scale difference
I am in the middle of another 20 Questions interview, but I think this one will take a full year to get done (it might already be a year+)
Just checked, we are on month 13 of the interview
He spends extensive amounts of time away from computers
Anyone else want to do a 20 Questions?
Hit me up
Have a great week

20 Questions Tuesday: 392 - Garon Cockrell

September 12, 2017 Scott Ryan-Hart

Today I get the pleasure of asking Garon Cockrell 20 Questions. Garon is the oft-maligned and under appreciated (for comedic effect) intern for the Never Not Funny podcast (one of my favorite podcasts ever), a position he took way back in 2012. Garon is also the founder, editor and a writer for his pop culture website aptly titled Pop Culture Beast. He is a published horror author and an award winning screenplay writer. Other than the exploits and tales told while being the intern at Never Not Funny, I really do not know that much about Garon, so let's change that and get to the questions.

My previous job of just over 15 years was as a cartographer. I have always loved how place can often tell a story that might not be captured in other formats. So I have always been interested in people's personal geographic stories. For example, I was born in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma then moved to Montgomery, Alabama only to move up to Birmingham a few years later. I basically grew up in the Birmingham area and got the Hell out of there when I went off to school in Kent, Ohio. From Kent I followed my college sweetheart down to Columbus, Ohio and have lived in the Columbus area for since moving down here in 1997.

Question 1: What is your geographic story?

I wish I could say I’ve lived in a million different places, amongst a multitude of cultures. Unfortunately, I can’t say that. I grew up in Michigan, various parts of (suburbs) Detroit but mostly Livonia/Walled Lake. My family has roots in Canada and in the south so I have visited both of these places amongst some other states in the country but as far as living, it was Michigan until I got to the soonest possible moment I could flee and from there it was to California. First to Panorama City, which I would not recommend, and then to Sherman Oaks, where I’ve been for a few years now. I’d love for my geographic story to take me to the UK one day or even to places like Portland or Seattle. Maybe when I’m rich with writer money.

That is a pretty simple story. Michigan to LA. There are worse stories. I know a few stories of people who have not moved out of their childhood town ever. They are some of the reasons I left that town, but that is a story for a different time. So... Question 2: Do you get the opportunity to travel much? If so, where have you been?

I don't travel near as much as I'd like. When I was younger we went to places like Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge in Tennessee. We went to Ohio a lot for Cedar Point, sometimes Sea World and this theme park called Geauga Lake, which apparently is abandoned now. I traveled from Michigan to the West with my dad as a kid. We went through Yellowstone, Montana, Wyoming, etc. I ended up flying home alone from Denver while my dad continued on. We also went to this awesome hotel a lot called Wheels Inn somewhere in Canada. Chatham I think? I remember it having a water slide indoors which was basically the coolest thing ever at the time. I've been to Niagra Falls and New York City where I spent the 1999-2000 NYE inside MTV studios. I visited New Mexico where my mom and brother lived briefly.

As an adult though my travels have been far less than in the past. Aside from the road trip moving to California which was basically just a long drive with no pit-stops, I've visited Vegas, Tijuana, San Diego, San Louis Obispo, all just short trips away. I'd really love to see more of not only America but the world too. I wanna visit the Pacific NW, I wanna visit Japan, Ireland, the UK. One of those road trips visiting all the tourist traps in the country sounds amazing to be honest. A dream trip would be traveling the country visiting haunted locales.

A haunted tour might be an interesting thing to see.

Now it is time for my patented Question 3. I think we might circle back to some of these concepts... but Question 3 is almost always Question 3. So, as stolen blatantly from the seminal Paul F. Tompkins bit, Question 3: Cake or pie? Which kind specifically and why?

I'm not a sweets guy to be honest. I do love a good cherry or apple pie but I also love a good yellow cake with strawberries and bananas in the middle from this little hole in the wall in Van Nuys. How do I choose which is a favorite?! Plus cheesecake! This is monstrous.
I guess a nice cinnamonny apple pie would be a favorite.

I love me some apple pie. My mom made and decorated cakes as a side business when I was a kid, so I had more than enough cake as a kid. Cheesecake is amazing, and oft forgotten about. You are now quite possibly my favorite person ever, mainly because of the cheesecake!

I am currently subscribed to over 40 podcasts. Question 4: Since you are an integral piece of a super successful podcasts, do you listen to any podcasts?

I don’t listen to near as many shows as I used to, although now that I have a job where I can listen to shows again I have started to dive into to more of them.

Right now I listen to Tyler Oakley and Korey Kuhl’s podcast Psycho Babble, I was featured on a couple episodes of The No Sleep Podcast which is horror based so I listen to that as often as I can. I also just started listening to some old time radio shows on Old Time Radio. What else…I check out My Favorite Murder, Spontaneanation, Jackie and Laurie. I listened to Serial, S-Town, Missing Richard Simmons (Bleh). Plus I can listen to Rachel Maddow and Real Time with Bill Maher episodes via podcast too which is pretty cool. I think podcasting is a remarkably exciting environment right now. So many voices, so much great content, You’ll likely never run out of something to listen to that you can enjoy or hell even learn from. Did you know that Bernie Sanders has a podcast? It’s crazy, everyone and anyone can have a show and there are folks out there that will listen.

I changed jobs from a state job that was not intellectually stimulating to a much more difficult and extremely more interesting job about a year and a half ago. At that time I was listening to about 60 podcasts a week and consistently miserable. Aside from friends and family, podcasts were about the only thing that kept me relatively sane.

So you are the owner and editor of "Pop Culture Beast." Question 5: Is there a particular part of pop culture that you cannot help yourself around? What corner of pop culture do you simply have to consume regardless of how good or bad each particular piece make actually be?

I mean it’s probably scary movies. I don’t see everything, I wish that I could, but I have such a love for that genre that I love watching it and collecting stuff around it. I love the 80s horror franchises and I will buy pretty much anything that has to do with them so I have toys and posters and books and multiple copies of these movies all over my house. There are movies that I absolutely adore that someone might watch and think I was bonkers. Film in general is a big part of my life. It was really formative for me growing up and represented some important times. It’s why I created the blog and it’s why I write scripts now. I love the business and I want to honor it and be a part of it.

I thought it might be the horror genre in general. I love that you seem to focus on the 80's franchises because they are so iconic. They got so big that you one can easily imagine a saturday morning cartoon with Freddy, Jason, and Mike Meyers on it with the occasional Pinhead interstitial short. I cannot think of an equivalent for the iconic quality for the 2000's or 2010's. The ring did a little of that iconic-ness, but nowhere near as culturally impacting.

Question 6: Why do you think that level of cultural penetration is missing for more current horror franchises and stand-alones?

I mean that's tough. I think innocence has a lot to do with it. Look at the places those films made unsafe. "Halloween" made your typical suburbs a nightmare. "Nightmare on Elm Street" made sleep unsafe. "Friday the 13th" made camping unsafe. What's left? As a society these things don't scare us anymore because they've more or less become reality. Not in a literal way obviously, but if you think about it, what is safe anymore? I think these new breed horror franchises are going to be extremely difficult to launch. I don't think we'll ever have another Freddy or Jason. Jigsaw was the last one of that type. They've tried, look at "Brainscan" from the late 90s. That was supposed to launch a new horror icon. "Jeepers Creepers" also. Horror now is sort of in this interesting Alt-horror phase with stuff like "It Comes At Night" and "It Follows". Both great films but vastly different from the horror I grew up with but I love them just as much. It's a new breed and it's exciting. I can't wait to see what comes next, hopefully with my being a part of it!

I think it also has to do with the proliferation of indy horror making it to some level of distribution. The barrier to entry for horror movies seems to have lifted which has created more indy one-shots instead of studio franchises. I can think of a handful of micro budget horror movies that were really critically acclaimed that I am not sure could have been made prior to this recent explosion of indy creators. But that really is just my completely uninformed guess.

For me, it is super hero movies. I might not go see it in the theater, but I will eventually watch every one of them... even the most terrible of them. It is a curse to be sure... I watched "Steel" with Shaq... ugh (dedication to a genre or compulsion... you be the judge)

Question 7: What is the most unexpectedly hardest aspect for you concerning screenwriting? Clearly getting someone to buy, produce, shoot, edit, and distribute a script is the most difficult, but what is the aspect of the day-to-day screenwriting process that you find surprisingly difficult?

To keep going. That's the truth of the matter. This is such a difficult career to get into and there is virtually no positive reinforcement from anyone so you have to have that inner drive to go on in yourself and I'll be honest, sometimes I feel like it's fading. All I've ever wanted to do was tell stories and bring people emotional reactions to what they are seeing. What happens when no one wants to give you that chance? It's difficult to be sure. So you keep going, you hang in, you write your stories you dream about them because that's all you can do. I think everyone thinks that writing is the easiest thing in the world to do, that you just sit down and start typing, it isn't like that. Often times it's an agonizing internal war just to put "Once upon a time..." on the page. Sometimes you feel like you are on the verge of something happening and sometimes it feels like you are standing at the edge of an abyss with nowhere to go but straight down into the dark where the monsters are waiting. I didn't choose to be a writer because it was an easy path, hell it wasn't even a choice. It's pretty much the only thing I am good at so that's my path. I'll follow it for as long as I am able to.

This is way more informed and personal than I was expecting. I was kind of expecting "Dialog, because writing people talking is the hard," and am really happy to see such a wonderful and thoughtful response. It has to be one of the most unrelenting of processes to write and submit and get no to not good feedback on that finished product.

So let's change topics to something lighter. Question 8: What part of pop-culture do you try to avoid even though it is so incredibly popular?

Kardashians. or I guess Sports if you consider that pop culture, which i guess it is. I just don't really enjoy it much. As for the Kardashians, that might seem like an easy answer, but they're truly vapid and if they aren't really like that, then they are doing a huge disservice to themselves by portraying themselves that way. I even gave Caitlyn Jenner the benefit of the doubt. I enjoyed her show because I thought she was learning something and might come to see her way to being a true value to the community. unfortunately, it doesn't look like she's learned anything.

I can definitely understand stepping away from the Kards... because they are the worst. I think the problem that Caitlyn Jenner has is that her history is so wrapped up in being privileged that she has not had the struggle that many of the LGBTQ have had to endure. It really is amazing how much gods of fame and money can be a soothing balm.I think sports has more of an affinity to pop-culture, but can understand their exclusion as well. That being said, I am not a sports guy as well. I mean... I watch soccer, but that doesn't even really count as a sport in the US.

Question 9: Have you ever written or thought about writing a different genre than horror?

I have! I always come back to horror because that's the genre that really had the most impact on me growing up. When I first started writing as a kid i started with a big "friday the 13th" type franchise called "Death Chime" about a killer named Arnie. Right after that I wrote a story called Runaway which was about, if memory serves, an autistic kid who ran away from home. I don't even know how I knew that word or what that was at the time and I am sure it's all completely wrong. I was like 12 and it was 1992 so that wasn't a disease that was really in the national news at the time, at least in any way I would have seen. I've dabbled in crime and wrote a short comedy that Kelly Marie Tran was one of the stars of. Just casually name-dropping someone starring in "The Last Jedi", no big. One of the best things I've written is a western, well, a post-apocalyptic western called The Devil's Hand. Even in Demonic and Other Tales there are a couple stories that aren't exactly horror. One being Prelude which is a sort of dystopian tale and the other being Looking Glass which is a girl dealing with her self-hatred. So yeah, I've touched on other things but horror will always be home to me.

We've all had brushes with greatness. I get that you "know" Kelly Marie Tran, but I have had a prolonged EMAIL CONVERSATION with an amazing stand-up and podcaster named Jimmy Pardo. So.. you know I can namedrop as well. I know people. I met him in Dayton once and Cincinnati a different time. We're tight like that. (editor's note: remember, Garon is the "intern" for Jimmy Padro's podcast, "Never Not Funny".)

Question 10: Fill in the blanks: I find that I am mostly _____. Others find that I am mostly _____.

This is the hardest question yet. I’ve had to turn to Facebook for help.

Out of the responses I got, this one struck me the most:

I find that I am mostly lost,. Others find that I am mostly on the right path.

It’s an interesting thing to see someone say. I do feel lost some times and it is really touching to know that someone, maybe even someones, think I am on the right path. Still, after a rough couple of years it’s a real new life. I’m sort of rediscovering who I am and it’s an interesting process. Wow I feel like this went way deeper than you might have been after.

You would be surprised how deep some of these questions end up going, especially with how relatively (deceptively) "simple" some of them are. This one is always interesting because so many people's self perception does not match how others perceive them. Yours is a perfect example.

Question 11: What is one small thing that you would like to add into your life? (Nothing earth-shattering, I'm not asking for sweeping lifestyle changes here)

An automatic cat litter box. I love my cats but i've been cleaning litter boxes for 16 years. I'm a little sick of it.

I completely understand that one. I hated cleaning out the cat litter when we had cats. It seems so tiresome because you are never really done. The second after cleaning out the boxes (we had three cats once upon a time) there was a line of cats waiting to poop in the fresh litter. Sometimes they stared at my while doing it.

I know that we touched on this a little with Question 10, but this question is just too good not to ask (even though I think we touched upon it a little already). It is a deceptively simple question, that pedants might parse very peculiarly So, Question 12: Are you happy?

I'm getting there. I have some work to do to get there but I think I am on the way. There are aspects of my life I am happy with but to say that Yeah I am happy would be disingenuous. I'm not. I don't fully have the career I want, I have a lot of debt, I have challenges directly in my path that I am hoping to avoid. But, there are times, when I am sitting in my apartment, playing a game or just listening to a record where I feel happy knowing that this is mine and I am doing okay. It's those brief moments that I know I am going the right way and that sooner rather than later I'll be able to answer that question with a yes.

I think that it is always important to remember that Happiness is a process and not necessarily a destination. You seem like you are happier in the NNF interactions I have heard lately, and it seems like you are talking the steps necessary to get into a better frame of mind. I am happy for you.

Question 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals?

I had to really think about that one. I don't think I do. My dad always warned me to put my right shoe on first and never to walk across a handicapped sign. A friend of mine wont "split" poles. In terms of my writing, I almost always start with a title does that count as a ritual? Maybe I should develop some maybe that would help push me into a more creative frame of mind. There are times i settle in to write, grab some chips and soda and then end up looking a youtube cover songs for hours so that might be a ritual. Probably not a good one.

I would define a ritual as a specific methodology to put yourself into a correct level of readiness. For example, a recent comic book writer that I interviewed had to complete a crossword puzzle prior to doing any writing. For me as a kid, I would get dressed for soccer in a very specific sequence to get myself in the correct headspace for playing the game. The examples you give about the right show first and the handicapped sign avoidance seem more like superstitions.

I find that people who do not have a meditative practice or are no longer religious do not have many rituals in their lives. Religion and self reflection tend to come with ritual.

Question 14: Do you have any (what you would consider) guilty pleasure pop culture vices?

I've come around to the position that there are no such things as guilty pleasures. I feel like that might be unfair to whatever it is you like. If you enjoy it, dammit enjoy it. Who cares what other people think? I love Taylor Swift, I love Hanson, I love pop music, I don't need to let some idiot judge me for it. There was a time when I was afraid of the stuff I liked because of what it might reveal about myself. Like, "I can't let people know I like the Indigo Girls or Bette Midler they'll know I'm gay." Guess what, who cares? They made amazing music. I hate that we still sort of have this stigma about things that we love. It's mass snobbery. Let people enjoy what they enjoy. You enjoy what you enjoy. I'll bump mmmbop and be happy doing it!

I love that philosophy. I really do. I think there is too much ironic liking of things that is actual just straight up liking things with some shame for liking something that the person "should not" like.

Question 15: Why do you think that there is still stigmas associated with liking things that people "shouldn't?" and do you think in the age of the Internet that this stigma will start to lessen?

I honestly don't know the answer to that question. I don't know that it's changed much. Look at Justin Bieber. Perfect example. Every single he puts out is a huge hit. Despacito is a huge hit BECAUSE OF JUSTIN. Yet it's a joke or embarrassing, to be a fan of his. It's not just teeny bopper girls buying his records. It's not just them watching these videos and making Despacito nearly the most watched video in YT history. They're a powerful demographic but they aren't doing that on their own. I think with each new generation, maybe this phenom will start to go away, especially with the increase in LGBTQIA identification. I hope we are coming a more open and friendly society and that soon everyone can be free to enjoy the music they enjoy without some douche nozzle making a joke out of it. I think we need to get through this powder keg Trump era first, assuming we do. Look, I like Justin Bieber, I like Lady GaGa, I like Hanson, but guess what, I also like Fleetwood Mac, Metallica, and what's another band people find "respectable?" I probably like them too. Difference being, I think all of these artists are respectable. Other people for whatever weird reason, don't and that's sad.

It is sad that people don't feel like they can like what they like. You have helped me rethink some of my loves that I might be a bit bashful about.

Question 16: Is there a line of questioning or a specific question you have been expecting from me?
Not really. I wasn't sure what to expect. I like how we've touched on all sorts of different things and even allowing for some personal experiences and feelings. You're digging deep!

Oh, digging deep is definitely an issue. Sometimes I find myself in the hole I am trying to dig out of. This a relatively fun method of getting to know the people I ask 20 Questions. I don't know about you, but I know significantly more about you than I did before. You know I exist, so that's significantly more than before this conversation.

Question 17: What is the next exciting thing for you coming up from a pop culture perspective?
I am beyond stoked for IT. I read through the book again in advance of seeing it and I’m already all in for it. I have the poster hanging on my wall and my excitement level grows everyday it gets closer. Of course, I’m also super excited for the next Star Wars movie. As I’m answering this I am watching an XBOX event announcing games and details about the XBox One X so I am getting really stoked for that, especially for this crazy little game called Cuphead which is done in this old style cartoon animation. It looks super fun.

Editors Note: Here is Garon’s Tweet Review of IT

.@ITMovieOfficial is undoubtedly one of the best straight up horror @StephenKing adaptations. Second only, I think, to The Shining.
— Garon Cockrell (@MyNameIsGaron) September 8, 2017

I have found that one should not get excited for Stephen King adaptations... they seem to rarely live up to the hype and there are way more misses than there are hits. Now, Cuphead looks absolutely gorgeous... that 1930's animation style is killer.

Okay, it is now the time of the 20 Questions where I turn the tables. This is always unnerving, because the predator has become the prey. Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

What's the weirdest and what's the most profound thing you learned from doing these interviews?

Those is are super interesting questions. The first part I don't believe I have ever been asked, but the second part I have been asked before in a slightly different manner...

What is the weirdest?... hmmm Not sure about the weirdest, but the most fun was that one person called his sister "poopypants." His sister happens to be Adrianne Palicki, which puts the "poopypants" comment into a much better context.

As far as the most profound... The most profound thing that I have taken away from the number of interviews I have done, is that people do not take much time to stop and think about themselves very much (even people who have a very strong self-reflection practice such as meditation), and that when in a long form asynchronous conversation, it makes people slow down and react to themselves somewhat.

Okay, penultimate question!

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring with you?
That I should take time to stop and think about myself.

That answer is only partially meant as a joke. It's something I don't do. I simply exist. I go to work. I come home. I never sit down and consider. I don't consider what I am doing, what I am after, what I mean to myself or to anyone else. I just get through the day which isn't really any way to live. There are things I want to do, plans I want to make, I just need to get to work doing them and I think my sort of walls of avoiding any kind of serious self consideration or reflection are hurdles I have to clear so I can find a path to being the best me.

It is very easy for people to get into a very comfortable place that allows for running on autopilot. That is something that I try to use these 20 Questions to keep me from doing. Of the 20 Questions I ask, 9 or 10 of them are consistent from person to person, but the other half of the questions must be driven by the previous answers. So, after asking about cake or pie, I have to be engaged and try to think of something novel to ask. Sometimes it works, and sometimes I do not hit my intended target. I think it would be beneficial for most people to put something in their life that absolutely requires being present, it is something I attempt to do often, but it is also something I consistently neglect to do.

I know you never thought you would get here, but... Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like.

I don't know is the grand, existential answer. I'm still trying to kick off a career and doing what I can to make that happen. If anyone out there needs a screenwriter, here I am! Smaller scale though, I have another book coming out soon called The Darkest Hours which is a collection of 4 short novellas and I am working on some more stories for another collection, of course I'm still a part of NNF and people can always see my nonsense on Twitter. there is some talk about my doing another podcast or a YouTube show. We'll see if that pans out. I've been really lucky that people have liked the work I've done so far and even featured it on a podcast like The NoSleep Podcast. It's really exciting. I can just keep going until something big happens, and I am sure it will. The last year has been trying and personally I'm growing and changing more now than I think I ever have. I'm excited to see what's coming down the road.

This was fun! Thanks for asking me to do it.

This was fun for me as well. Thank you so much for doing this.

Garon is goddamned delight and everyone should get him into your lives in some format. Might I suggest listening to him on Never Not Funny, following him on Twitter and Facebook, see what he is doing with the Pop Culture Beast (PopCultureBeast on FB too), or you can read his honest to goodness book.

To recap:
Irma… wow, Irma
What Irma did in the Caribbean
Wow… brutal
I already have an interview ready for next week
I am on it
Such a good blogger
The lovely wife competed in her first Triathlon Sprint on Sunday

She is pretty sure that it was her last
Super unhappy with open water swimming
But she did great for her first Tri
The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy holds up pretty well
There are issues with it to be sure
But it holds pretty good for a special effects movie from 15 years ago
The wife still loves Viggo coming through Helms Deep’s doors

She likes it an inordinate amount
I need to look at some new Kickstarters
Any suggestions for Kickstarters?
I also need to draw a bunch more
That would happen if I were not so tired when I got home
I need to exercise more as well
Can any of you make any of this happen?
I am entertaining all concepts at the moment
Anyway…
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 390 - Sammi Grant

August 29, 2017 Scott Ryan-Hart

This week I have the absolute pleasure of asking Sammi Grant 20 questions. Sammi is an accent coach that I became aware of due to a Buzzfeed video wherein she rapidly and distinctly demonstrates 12 different accents in English.

Language, especially spoken language and how it is spoken, has always been an interest of mine. That is one of the reasons that I listen to the History of English podcast and seek out dialect coaches. Sammi is quite facile with sliding between dialects and accents. She is able to describe the differences in how she produces the accents even in a few minute video. Other than her accent abilities and the information I was able to find on her website, I know next to nothing about Sammi. She seems delightful in her video, so without further ado, let's get into 20 Questions with Sammi Grant.

In a previous professional life I was a map-maker. I absolutely love hearing people's stories of place and what their specific geographic footprint is. For example, I was born just outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. My family moved to Montgomery, Alabama when I was 3 and then up to the Birmingham, Alabama area soon after. I basically grew up in a suburban community called Center Point to the northeast of Birmingham. I went to college at Kent State University in Kent, Ohio where I met the woman I was soon to marry. I followed her to gradschool at Ohio State University, and she and I have made our lives in the Columbus, Ohio area since grad school. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

There really is not much of a story here. I was born and raised in a northwest suburb of Chicago called Buffalo Grove. I moved about 2 ½ hours south of there to attend college at Illinois Wesleyan University in Bloomington, IL. After college, I moved to Chicago proper and have lived there ever since. My geographic adventures are still to come. Iam hoping to go to grad school next year, and my dream school is in London. After that, I don’t know where I will end up. Perhaps I will stay in London or move to New York.

Question 2: Have you traveled a bunch? How did you become interested in accents if you haven't lived in many places?

I have traveled some but not much. As a child, my family took road trips all over the country, but I don’t remember most of them. When I was twelve, we went to England, Ireland, and France. However, I don’t remember being particularly fascinated by accents on that trip. My most significant amount of travel has been to Disneyworld, which I have been to at least fifteen times.

I was first struck by accents when a couple of British relatives camet o visit my extended family in the Chicagoland area when I was young. I remember writing down British phrases, like “jumper” means “sweater,” told to me by my great cousin Helen. We were at a restaurant, and I wrote these phrases on the back of a paper placemat.

I became interested in accent work as a potential career while I was in college. I went to school for Acting, and in my junior year I had to take a class on the International Phonetic Alphabet and dialects. I was really taken with the work and ended up continuing with independent studies and later was the TA for that original class I took. I am legally blind, which seemed to enhance my abilities with voice work as opposed to some of my other acting classes where it was sometimes an obstacle.

I have always loved accents as well. I noticed from a very young age that here are many different southern accents as a kid. The sounds of southern aristocracy vs dirt farmer accent in Alabama, vs a straight up Texas drawl. I am sure I will circle back around for some questions on accents in just a little bit, but it is time for my usual question 3 for these interviews.

So let's go with Question 3: Cake or pie? Which kind specifically and why?

I generally prefer pie over cake. I am not a big fan of frosting, so cake has never really struck my fancy. My favorite pie is French Silk. I love the combination of the crunchy, creamy, and chocolate flakes. This is the first kind of pie I ever had, and it has been my favorite ever since.

I love French silk pie as well; it was the first "sophisticated" pie I ever tried. That being said though, lemon meringue is my favorite pie ever. I love how you go through slightly different textures in you bite, but it is all informed by the tartness of the lemon. I like it better than key-lime because key lime is way more homogeneous. My mom decorated cakes as a side job when I was a kid, so I think I might have over-caked myself... pushing me towards pie.

So, let's get back to accents. You accent work fascinates me because of how easily you shift from one to another in the video from Buzzfeed. I would imagine that you started out with a typical Chicago/Northwestern Illinois area accent, having grown up there, so... Question 3: Do you typically talk with a that accent, you grew up with or is there an accent that you have gravitated towards since studying accents?

I did grow up with a Midwestern accent with those nasal, flat vowels like I demonstrate in my BuzzFeed video. As I went through voice training in college and developed my work as a dialect coach I made efforts to shift my accent more towards General American. This is what you hear from most newscasters and TV/film actors. IT is a standard, non-regional American sound. I think of this as my professional voice. When I am with friends and family, I don’t care if my natural accent comes out as many of those close to me also have Midwestern accents.

I grew up watching the news all the time. In fact, I find myself doing those weird Tom Brokaw slurred vowel shifts and diphthongs from time to time. Since my parents are both from Northeast Ohio and I spent so much time watching newscasts I do not have a southern/Alabama accent. However, if I have had too much to drink I find a bit of Alabama peeking out from behind my de-accented midwest. I don't drink much anymore, so that doesn't happen very often now.

Question 4: Is there an accent that you enjoy dropping into and find yourself unconsciously speaking with?

Oh there are many. I slip in and out of accents all of the time. I most often drop into London, Brooklyn, and transatlantic. When I am coaching an accent for a show, I tend to speak in the accent a lot even when I am not working. IT helps me keep the accent fresh.

That transatlantic accent seems like it would be a fun one to drop into for almost any occasion. The bright staccato delivery is so wonderful. The way it became the accent of choice for 1930's and 40's movies.

I promise I will not ask all 20 questions about accents, but I find them so insanely interesting. Question 5: What was the most difficult accent for you to learn and why?

The most difficult accent for me to personally learn and master was a general Spanish. IT shares many similar phonetic sounds with Eastern European accents. My whole heritage is Eastern European, so my Spanish would often lean towards Russian in the beginning. I am happy with my Spanish accent now, and I have coached many different specific Spanish accents. However, I cannot as easily slip into that sound as some of my other accents.

That makes perfect sense. I have played roleplaying games in the past wherein it was necessary for the character to have an accent. I often found myself sliding between a Scottish burr and a Russian accent, mainly because the Scots Burr took less concentration.

So you stated previously that your dream school is in London and that New York is a possibility for you as well. Question 6: Aside from locations associated with pursuing your advanced degrees and education, is there a place that you would like to live or travel?

I would really like to go to South Africa. I did a one woman show in college called The Syringa Tree that mostly took place in South Africa. I feel a strong draw to the country and culture and would really love to experience it in person.

That sounds super interesting. I have a friend in Joburg who draws comic books for a living. He really loves it there, but seems to have issues with the power grid there browning out fairly often. It sounds like it could be a very nice place to visit and experience. I hope you can make it there soon then.

Question 7: Do you have a day job or is being an accent coach your primary job?

I do not have a “day job”. I am a full-time freelance dialect/vocal coach. I also do a little bit of voiceover work, but my main focus is the coaching.

This is absolutely great. I was not sure of the Chicago area would support an accent coach. I would have guessed that New York City or LA would support an accent coach but was unsure of Chicago. I think, sometimes, I forget just how big Chicago is.

Question 8: Do you enjoy linguistics as well as accents, or do you place yourself firmly into only accents?

I have never really had the opportunity for in-depth study of purely linguistics. I found accent coaching through the avenue of theatre as I went to school for acting. I would love to be able to study linguistics, but I just have not found the time yet. Perhaps in the future.

Concerning linguistics... during my senior year of high school my family hosted an exchange student from Germany. He clearly had a knack for language. He spoke (at the time) fluent French, English, and (of course) German. I think he could passably speak some Spanish and Italian at the time as well. We went our separate ways and I lost touch with him for many years. When I did get in contact with him again he was teaching linguistics at the University of Texas and had specialized in the Jamaican patois. So a northern German teaching Jamaican patois in the Texas south. That is an accent I would love to hear. (Hey, Lars!)

Question 9: Please fill in the blanks. Others find that I am mostly _______. I find that I am mostly ______.

Others find that I am mostly ambitious and witty.

I find that I am mostly stressed out goofy

Stressed and goofy is a good combination. There are worse ways to perceive oneself... way better than enigmatic and spooky.

There is a little bit of a disconnect between how you feel others perceive you and how you feel you perceive you. Question 10: Why do you think people consider you to be ambitious and what can you do to help yourself feel less stressed out?

Others find me ambitious, because I am. I have always had big dreams for my life. While they have not always stayed the same, I always have a plan for my future. I would use that word to describe myself as well; stressed out is just a stronger feature from my point of view.

I am stressed out, because I have a lot going on. My job is not traditional, so I often work long hours and sometimes have work every single day of the week. Being stressed out is not necessarily a bad thing. I would rather be busy than not have work.

One of the problems associated with working for yourself is that you can always be working. It is difficult to set aside and protect the time you have to not work. I have found that only ambitious people tend to work for themselves, because that level of ambition is necessary to motivate one to work for themselves. I work in a nice corporate gig that allows me to go home at night and not fret about it. My wife, she works for herself and is significantly more ambitious than I am... and stressed because work/life balance is difficult.

So, I picture you sitting and intently listening to high quality audio of various dialects and pouring over the diction to determine how to Instruct others in how to properly enunciate an "r" sound for a South Carolinian aristocratic accent. You nod, make a note, take your headphones off, and close your laptop. Now I am certain that this mental recreation is clearly flawed and wholly inaccurate, but that is not why I am setting up this theatre of the mind. I want people to think about you working and then deciding it is time to take a break. Question 11: What do you do in your downtime? Do you have any downtime? What do you do when you are not working?

I definitely have down time. I am a big fan of napping during down time. I also enjoy watching TV and reading, though I tend to rewatch the same shows and reread the same books. I also enjoy going out with my friends to shows or bars on the weekends. I love going out dancing, even though I am not a very good dancer!

Napping I a great past-time. More people need to look into it as a hobby. Most people do not consider it a past-time as much as they consider it being lazy. Those people are wrong.

Question 12: Multi-part question... What is your favorite TV show? What is your favorite book? Do you have a guilty pleasure TV show or book genre?

My favorite TV show is Gilmore Girls. My favorite book is the Harry Potter series. My guilty pleasure book genre is YA fiction.

There are boatloads of great YA titles out there. One of my favorite YA authors is Tamora Pierce. I love her Tortall series.

So here we are at 13. So, Question 13: do you have any superstitions or rituals in your day-to-day life?

The Tortall series is my second favorite book series after Harry Potter. I love those books and re-read them often.

I don’t really have any personal day-to-day superstitions or related rituals. It is a big superstition in the theatre world that it is unlucky to say Macbeth in a theatre, and I do respect that tradition.

The theatre has some odd traditions... from the "Scottish King" to "Break a Leg."

So I did a 20 Questions with a very lovely tech podcaster (Patrick Beja) a while ago, wherein he asked me a very simple yet profound question. After that point I tried to make sure I asked it in all of my 20 Questions interviews. Then Mikey Neumann (another 20 Questions Tuesday interviewee) pointed out the fallacy of the structure of the question. So I have modified Patrick Beja's simple question to include Mikey's nuance. A bunch of preamble to this question. Question 14: Overall, do you feel that you are happy?

This is a difficult question for me to answer as I do not feel there is a simple response. At my core, I tend towards anger rather than joy. A lot of this has to do with being blind. While I do not let my blindness hold me back from the things I want to do, there is still an underlying anger that I am blind in general. I think you will find this with a lot with people who have disabilities or chronic diseases. This is why my humor tends towards sarcasm and my neutral face always looks slightly angry or judgmental. All that being said, I try hard to put out positive rather than negative energy into the world. I truly believe that if you put out positivity into the universe, the universe will send you positivity back. So I strive to bring joy to others and myself. Happiness doesn’t come naturally for me, but I work to bring it into my life.

So to give you a simple answer- It depends on the day.

This is a very heartfelt and unexpectedly affecting answer. I can only imagine how there would be an underlying layer of anger at the universe for having to deal with a disability or chronic illness. It makes sense that the anger exists, it is just not something I had thought of. That really sucks, and it sucks that you have to deal with it. That being said, I am glad that there are at least some days that you are happy often enough to say "So to give you a simple answer - It depends on the day."

So... Not to put you on the spot and speak for an entire group, but... Question 15: How can I, as a sighted person, be a better ally for people with visual impairments?

The biggest way you can be an ally to the blind community is to assume a blind person is capable of everything until they tell you they are not. We might do things in slightly different ways than sighted people, but we have methods to deal with most situations. For example, I am able to walk around and cross busy streets by myself. I cannot tell you the number of times I have been preparing to cross a street when someone comes up and grabs me by the arm, without even asking, because they assume I can’t cross the street by myself. I am standing at the street corner alone. Obviously, I planned to cross the street alone. This leads me to my other point- always ask before you try to help a blind person. Never touch them without talking and getting permission first. How would you feel if a random stranger just came up and grabbed you without a word? Now, imagine not being able to see the person.

Another great way to be an ally is to advocate for blind people in the workplace. The unemployment rate in the blind community is at 70%. As I said before, blind people can do most anything a sighted person can do, just maybe in a different way. Years ago, when I was trying to get a day job, I had so many potential employers express surprise when I said I could use a computer. It is this kind of prejudice of helplessness that keeps so many blind people from even being considered for jobs.

It never surprises me the arrogance and presumption of well-meaning ignorant people. It alarms me and disturbs me, but does not surprise. Again, thank you for a very well crafted and honest answer.

Question 16: Is there a question you were expecting from me that I have not asked?

NO, not that I can think of.

Good, I did not want to disappoint by not asking something you were expecting.

Question 17: What is one thing that you would like me to know about you that we haven't chatted about yet?

I honestly feel we have covered all of the bases from my work to my interests/hobbies to my blindness. An interesting fact I can share is that I went skydiving two summers ago.

I bet that was quite the experience. I have always been mildly interested in skydiving. I cannot say that it has ever been a strong interest, or I think I would have made it happen by now, but I have been pleasantly curious about skydiving since I was a kid. You are right though, this 20 Questions has gone all over the place.

It is time for the tables to be turned... Question 18: Are there any questions that you have for me?

How long have you been doing this "20 questions" blog?

Well, the initial version of the blog started in 2004 during the heyday of blogging. A few years of simple daddy blogging led to massive writer's block and I asked some friends to send in some questions to answer. I decided on 20 Questions because of the name of the word game people play, and I chose Tuesday because it is my wife's name and therefore my favorite day of the week. So in addition to my usual posts I would do a 20 Questions Tuesday post every Tuesday. Eventually the other posts dropped off and the only posts I was doing were these 20 Questions posts. The first official 20 Questions Tuesday was on April 18th, 2005. So I have been doing this relatively consistently for 12 years. I did not start interviewing people until a few years after that. I started by interviewing other bloggers and then that radiated out to comedians and comic book artists. Since then I have been circling more outward and asking people I find interesting, such as yourself.

So here we are at the penultimate question. Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

I am not necessarily taking anything brand new away with me. However, this process has reaffirmed my dislike of writing. This is nothing against you and this specific exchange. I just so much more prefer to converse through talking rather than writing. My entire job is about communicating orally and teaching others how to expand and explore the range of their voice. I find writing boring and less expressive. As I am sure you have noticed, it takes me a while to respond to each of your questions. This is partly because I am very busy. The other part is that I just don’t want to sit down and write. However, writing is a part of life, and something I need to always continue developing, especially since I plan to get a masters degree. That masters thesis is not going to write itself.

I am very grateful that you have stuck with this process then. I completely understand why this is a medium that might not work super well for you, and am impressed by your determination to follow this long and drawn out process to its completion. Please accept my sincere apology for anything in this process that was uncomfortable. That was not my intention, but it still sounds like it was your reality.

I have been toying with the idea of creating a accompanying podcast to this blog, but I have not fleshed out this concept much and really feel like I would need help to make it happen.

Well... here we are at the last question. Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like.

Here is the short term answer. I am starting rehearsals for three shows here in Chicago: Billy Elliot the Musical, The Invisible Hand, and 1980 or Why I’m Voting for John Anderson. I am starting to make a dent in my waiting list of people who have reached out in response to the BuzzFeed video for dialect coaching or accent modification. This October, I will most likely be applying to grad school. I am also working on developing my stand-up comedy.

Here is my long term response: I would like to get my masters and start teaching at the college level in addition to my dialect coaching for Theatre and TV and possibly film one day. I would eventually like to get married and maybe have children.

I think all of those things you have outlined seem imminently doable, and I wish you luck with each and every one of them.

I want to take this time to thank you for bearing with me through this process. If I ever get the opportunity to meet with you in person, I promise not to ask for tips on getting my Scottish burr more correct.

Sammi is amazing and everyone should learn more about her. Go to her website, SammiGrant.com and see what she can offer, I really enjoyed chatting with her and an very happy she stuck with this process even though it was not the most comfortable process for her to interact. I really need to get my podcast up and running.

To recap:
Houston is really messed up right now
I have a friend who is getting a brain tumor removed from his noggin today (editors note: Surgery went as well as hoped)
Many of us are pulling for him
I know that I would not be where I am today without his help
Little Man has a cross country meet today at 6
Q has a practice she has to be across town for at 5:30

Wonder Parents Powers! Separate!
Form of someone watching cross country
Shape of someone who remotely cares about horses
Looks like we will need to split up to cover these events
Next week my wife and I will have been married for 20 years
I like hanging out with her, but the family often requires us to watch the dumb kids separately
We switch who does what
But still, could we get some events that we could both go to?
Is that too much to ask?
Other than The UX Podcast, does anyone know of a good User Experience podcast?
I have 2 more interviews ready to publish
Next week is going to be 20 Question about 20 Years of Marriage
So those 2 interviews are going to have to wait
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 381 - Eric Palicki

June 13, 2017 Scott Ryan-Hart

One of the reasons that I loved CinciComiCon was that I met really awesome people there. My second or third year there I had the pleasure of sitting next to Eric Palicki. Eric is a comic book writer who is currently writing working on a really interesting indy book called No Angel. I have read a few other of his books. To be honest, I bought them mainly because I was sitting at a table next to him, and you have to support local, am I right? You know I am. Anyhoo.. It turns out that the books just happened to be good. He was enjoyable to chat with and I am really happy to get to know him better.

So without further ado... let's jump into the questions.

I am going to really freak out readers of this here blog, by just shaking things up a bit.

Question 1: Cake or Pie, which specific kind and why? (what just happened?!?!?)

Cake. Carrot cake with cream cheese frosting, or rather, "cream cheese" frosting (I'm vegan). Ideally, the cake came from Patty Cake bakery in Columbus, OH.
Carrot cake is a love I inherited from my dad.

Patty Cake's Carrot cake is amazing. As a kid, I was always a fan of spice cake (which is carrot cake without the pesky carrots). Number 1: I love that you know about Patty Cake's in Clintonville. Number 2. Next time I know you will be around, I will bring a carrot cake from Patty Cake. Really. Number 3. I did not realize you are vegan. That is usually something that comes up with any interaction with vegans. I kid. I kid.

Question 2: Health or philosophical reasons for going vegan, and how long have you been off the meat wagon?

A little of both, along with a bit of peer pressure. I initially went vegetarian about seven years ago, when three of my closest friends all did it independently and for different reasons, one each for health, the environmental impact, and ethical considerations for the treatment of animals. I figured, I agree with all three of these friends, and if any one of their reasons is good enough to go veg, well, I guess I'm out of excuses.

Veganism started as an experiment. If I could give up the bacon, could I also give up the eggs? I just kind of stuck with it, starting about three years ago.

All of that said, I try not to be a vegan/veg evangelist; I won't bring it up without cause, and I never judge folks for what they eat.

I think there needs to be a portmanteau with vegan evangelist, it is all right there for the taking, but I cannot parse a "word" that rolls off the tongue. Maybe "vegangelist"? Actually, that might be it. When my oldest was a wee little toddler, due to food allergies he had a limited diet such that he was basically a vegan who could eat meat. It confused many people.

As everyone who has read one of these interviews knows, I was a cartographer for about 20 years total, so I have always been interested in the idea of geographic place and the stories that associate with that geography. For example, I was born just outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma moved to Montgomery, Alabama when I was a wee toddler, moved up to the Birmingham, Alabama area for the rest of my childhood until I went away to college at Kent State University in northeast Ohio. In Kent I met the woman would I would marry and moved to the Columbus area after college to live with and marry her. I have been in the Columbus area ever since my undergrad college years. Question 3: What is your geographic story?

I was born in Toledo, Ohio, where I lived well past high school and graduation from the University of Toledo. Shortly after graduation, I took a job as an technical writer (not much else you can do with an English degree, frankly), and I bounced around a few gigs in Northwest Ohio before taking a job in Columbus, doing the same kind of work. In November of last year, I packed up everything I owned and moved out to Seattle, following my girlfriend. I'm one of the lucky few who, on a rare cloudless day in the Pacific Northwest, can sit in view of both the mountains and the ocean (assuming you'll give me the benefit of the doubt and accept that Puget Sound is part of an ocean -- but you tell me; you're the cartographer).

Well, a sound is technically an offshoot of an ocean or a sea, but typically if it is a named water body but attached to and consisted of the same water chemical make up as the ocean, it can be considered part of the ocean. There are exceptions when you get to bodies of water that are attached to items named "sea."

Question 4: What is the biggest difference you see between Ohio and the Pacific Northwest?

Perhaps surprisingly, it's not the weather. It's actually the geography. Ohio is so flat.

It really is... even growing up in Alabama, I have found that most of Ohio is really flat. Especially the northwest of Ohio since it was scoured by glaciation in the last few ice-ages. Ohio is seriously flat until you get to the edge of the Illinoisan Ice Age boundary. Then it gets some relief in the Appalachian foothills. But it is not relief like Cascadia.

Your geographic story is fairly short. Question 5: Is there somewhere out there that you would like to live, that you haven't yet?

Just down the road in Portland is one of the most robust comics communities in the U.S.

I think I'd like to give Portland a try.

Portland is just and awesome city to begin with, regardless of the comic book culture.

So, you are a comic book writer with an English degree... Question 6: What word in the English language do you think needs to be used more? For example, I love the word "whilst' and feel it should be used more often.

So many good but underappreciated words out there, but without too much thought, I'd say 'elan,' or possibly 'panache.'

This script was way past its deadline, but Palicki executed it with great elan.

Oooh... I am leaning towards "panache" between those 2. But "elan" has a delightful ring to it as well. Both are great choices. I have actually said “panache” before in conversation, but I only know the work “elan” because of crossword puzzles.

I know that you are co-writing "No Angel" with your sister, Question 7: Do you have any other siblings? and what are the biggest issues of working with a sibling on a project?

It's just the two of us, and while there weren't any issues as far as personality clashes, my sister comes at storytelling from a very different medium -- she being an actress and living in LA. We basically got together over a long weekend to figure out the story beats, and then I came back to (at the time) Ohio to write the scripts, which I then turned around and sent back to Adrianne for review. Her notes back to me were very much the result of her looking at the story through the Hollywood lens. "Where's the love interest?" Et cetera. The beauty of working in comics, specifically for a company like Black Mask Studios, is we're not beholden to those structural limitations and storytelling expectations. It was all very punk rock.

Also, my sister is a poopy stinky dummy and has been since she was two years old.

I think it is interesting to look at the story beats from a writer's point of view and an actors' POV. I imagine it makes the comic book scripts resemble screenplays a bit more and that makes me wonder if the comic book might be a proof of concept for a TV series... Say "Hi" to your sister for me. Loved her as Mockingbird and she was awesome in John Wick, but that is enough about her. I tend to try and not dwell on poopy stinky dummy people, because I think poopy stinky dummy people get in the way of generative creativity.

Question 8: Is writing for comic books your primary source of income, or is there something else you do as your primary money-maker? Good Lord I hope it is not concerning the shaking of your money-maker.

I'm still a technical writer by day, telecommuting to Abbott Nutrition from out here in Seattle, which means getting up at 4am to work according to something resembling East Coast time. Good thing Seattle's known for its coffee!

Technical writing is an interesting task to say the least. Taking info-babble and making it consumable can be really tricky.

Question 10: What skill from this job as a technical writer is something that you will always keep with you regardless of your enjoyment of or employment status in regards to this job?

Comics writing is like technical writing insomuch as both benefit from the ability to convey instructions clearly and succinctly, sometimes to people, whether technicians or artists, who are not native English speakers. I think tech writing has made me a better comics writer, but it has probably destroyed my chances of ever writing prose.

That is super interesting. I did not think at all about instructional writing and how that translates to comic book writing. It makes perfect sense, but it doesn't quite account for your ability to write dialog. I imagine that technical writing does not prepare you for dialog.

Question 11: Fill in the blanks. I find that I am mostly __________. Others find that I am mostly __________.

I find that I am mostly reserved but outgoing. Others find that I am mostly an introvert.

With those answers it seems like you may be the personality unicorn known as kind of a quiet extrovert. You are quite the enigma. Question 12: So are you energetically an introvert or an extrovert? Meaning do you recharge your batteries by being by yourself or being around others?

Oh, I definitely recharge with alone time. In fact, I mostly prefer being by myself, but that's punctuated by bursts where I absolutely NEED to be part of a group, to see people. Conventions are great "punctuation marks" on the otherwise lonely existence of a writer.

I like small intimate groups for my recharging. Small groups of 3 or 4 people having conversation is really perfect for my recharging. That seems to be harder and harder to make happen. That is one reason I am so happy with the job I have now. There is the opportunity to be in small cluster conversations with very intelligent and insightful people... but enough about all that.

We are at Question 13: So do you have any superstitions or rituals that you adhere to?

I'm not a big believer in superstitions when I approach them from a rational standpoint, but some small things have crept in around the edges: I'll always pick up a penny, so long as I find it head-side up, and I never kill spiders I find in my house (owing more to a fondness for spiders -- wink, wink -- than to any profound superstition).

Ritual-wise, I try to start the morning with the crossword puzzle, because it's a decent brain game to prep myself for writing, but I don't know if my output suffers when I can't do it.

That is the exact reason I mention rituals instead of straight up superstitions. Very few people still believe that putting a hat on the bed is an invitation for death to visit, but lots of people do some kind ritual to get themselves ready for some task. Anyone who has ever played sports has had some kind of ritual to get prepared for playing that sport. Rituals are all about getting into the correct "frame of mind" for whatever task is at hand. Your crossword puzzle is a perfect example of this. You use that exercise to get you in the correct frame of mind to write. Could you write without doing the crossword? Of course. Would some of that writing be used to get you in the correct frame of mind? Most likely.

Question 14: What creative projects do you have going on right now?

I have two unannounced miniseries on my plate right now, I'm helping to curate a politically motivated horror anthology which will appear on Kickstarter later this summer, and I'm contributing a ten page story to a pal's kaiju anthology. My story for that last book pits a giant monster against a samurai in Edo period Japan, and it looks like Adam Ferris will be drawing it.

That sounds awesome. I am really glad that you have that many irons in the fire.
So... Question 15: Is there a particular existing mainstream book that you would kick a kitten in the rain to write?

Well, maybe not IN THE RAIN (I'm not a monster, Scott), but I think I have a Green Arrow story in me. Moon Knight. My dream with the Big Two would be to take a half-forgotten character and give it a Frank-Miller-on-Daredevil-style renaissance.

I'd love to do a Captain America story sometime, maybe when doing so isn't controversial.

I will be the judge of the monstrosity. Spiders every issue? Really? ugh... You are a monster. A horrible monster.

There are spiders coming out of that guy's eye sockets.... EYE SOCKET SPIDERS!!! Eric Palicki is a monster.

I would love to see your take on Cap, especially with this weird run they are doing right now with him being a hydra sleeper. There are so many directions the next story can go. He needs to ditch the red, white, and blue and become Nomad again. Only way to redeem Steve Rogers is to remove him as the iconic character, but I could go on for a good bit about the Steve Rogers character.

Question 16: Is there a question I have not asked that you expected me to ask?

Well, you asked about siblings, but I often get some variation of "What's it like having a sister on tv?" or "What's it like having a famous sister?" I very much appreciate that you kept the conversation in the context of our comics together and not her little side project as a semi-famous actress. I had a colleague shoulder check me at a con once and when I asked him why, his reply was "That's for your sister, for trying to kill John Wick."

This is 20 questions with you, not your "poopy-pants" sister.

Adrianne Palicki wearing her Bobbie Morse (Mocking Bird, "Ask me about my feminist agenda" T-shirt. I lifted this pic from her twitter feed.

That being said, her career has been a fun one to watch, and I love that I did not find out that she was your sister until this past October. All that being said, I love that it seems like you have a really nice relationship with her, and that is delightful. More than that, I really love that you have gone out of your way to work together, because the two of you have no requirement to work together.

Question 17: Did you ever think that you and your sister would have/make the opportunity to work together? It seems like the two of you have gone down relatively different paths.

I certainly hope we'll work together. When I moved to Seattle, Adrianne flew out to Ohio and drove with across country. During that time we brainstormed a (probably) comic book follow up to No Angel. Without giving away too many details, it's inspired by a true story of a young woman who was sentenced as a juvenile for taking part in the murder of her parents, then released back into society when she reached adulthood. We made significant progress in exploring questions like how do you come back from having done something like that? Are you actually rehabilitated or is age just a number?

And then there's a heady conspiratorial angle to the story, because that's my jam and poopy-pants' jam as well.

As far as tv goes, I'd never rule it out. Although my dream is to keep writing comics, I'd be a fool to turn down a writing gig for television.

I really have loved No Angel (even with all the spiders... so many spiders) and I love the idea of having an actor be part of the writing team, because an actor's and a writer's point of view are so different. It is also so nice to hear of siblings who enjoy each other and respect each others different skillsets. I could see and have seen sibs becoming competitive and jealous at popular success.

Now it is the time wherein I turn the tables on myself. Question 18: Do you have any questions for me?

Sure! What's the TV Guide synopsis of the Scott Ryan-Hart story? (and for bonus points: what song would be the subtitle of that biopic? You know what I mean? Like, Don't Go Chasin' Waterfalls: The Eric Palicki story. What's yours?)

Wow... That is an amazing question. Such an amazing question. Let me think on it a bit....

Okay here we go.

Carry a Laser: the Scott Ryan-Hart Story
For 15 years an average kind of guy forgot to be creative. Dusting off rusty and atrophied skills he tries to re-kindle some creativity in his life and become more fulfilled as a human. Guided by his wife and newfound drive to do something creative, Scott embarks on a question to answer and ask questions, draw and write, and live and be.

Cancelled after one season due to the low stakes and relative boredom it induces.

Full disclosure... "Carry a Laser" is my southern protestant misunderstanding of "Kyrie Eleison" by Mr Mister

Okay, we are nearing the end of this conversation... so

Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

Well, for one thing, it's nice to know I wasn't the only guy who thought he was saying 'Carry A Laser.' I was probably in high school or college in the latter half of the 90s before I saw the actual title written out.

I tweeted out yesterday about it having been 5 years since Ray Bradbury passed, and he was my first writing god (later replaced by Vonnegut and Harlan Ellison and Hemingway -- who could write a helluva sentence, even if he was a drunk misogynist -- and then by some comics writers), and I tend to still embrace a lot of Bradbury's method. That is to say, I write fast, which doesn't allow for much introspection. These twenty questions have given me pause to think about how and why I write, so thanks for that.

My lapsed Catholic wife informed me about the Kyrie Eleison maybe about 5 years ago amid nigh uncontrollable laughter. I blame Mr Mister for going too niche with their references.

If I have given you a vehicle for introspection, then I am very happy with how these 20 questions have shaken out. I really wish you were still in the Columbus area, because I would love to hang out with you since you are such a great guy.

All of that leads to the final of the 20 Questions. You already kind of mentioned some aspects of you plans, but questions 20 is always... Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like.

This is maybe the most intimidating question of the bunch, Scott. I'm living in Seattle, but this move is still fresh, and as much as I'm growing to adore the city, I'm not sure it feels like 'home,' yet. My arrangement with my current day job is coming to an end (by mutual arrangement and design) at the end of June, and with No Angel wrapped, I don't have another announced project ready to go (in contrast to last year, when I had a graphic novel and Marvel gig and No Angel announced).

So, the honest answer to what's next is, I don't know, and that's terrifying. I guess it's time to get off twitter (at least a little bit) and start making some proactive moves to find a new day job and some new comics work, or even better, find a home for all the awesome creator owned projects I've developed since No Angel debuted.

Thanks so much for doing this 20Qs with me.

No, Thank you for doing this 20 Questions with me. This was really enjoyable.

Seattle is an awesome place, I am sure you will feel comfortable calling it home soon.

As for work... I am positive that you will create more comic work. And if the work does not come to you, I know you will make work for yourself. No Angel is a great series (even though there are too many spiders) and I have really enjoyed reading it.

You are an absolute delight, and I am sad that I will not be seeing you at Cincy ComiCon anymore.

So, everyone, you should buy your work on Orphans, No Angel, Red Angel, Fake Empire, and the Guardians books you did for Marvel. People should also give you a follow on the Twitters too. You have a very enjoyable feed. Just a reminder, if Eric is making work, you should consume it, and consume it with gusto.

EDIT: Since Tuesday when this was posted Eric has been part of a Kickstarter launch for the "This Nightmare Kills Facists" project that he and a team of people are doing. Support it like I have with the sharing and the pledging. Do IT!

To recap:
Wife is out of town this week
And I am exhausted
I finally took the plunge and ordered SeeSo
I think it was a wise decision
I am on vacation next week
That should be fun
Outer Banks
Bar-b-Que
Donutz on a Stick… now in a gluten free version
More than that though is some sleeping in
Oh, how I love sleeping in
Like I am an adolescent, I really love it
I still need some peeps to interview
Iffens you know anyone who wants to answer 20 questions, have them contact me
Now I need to get back to paying attention to other parts of my life
Podcast? Should I make a version of this as a podcast? Thoughts?
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 377 - Shawn Pryor

April 4, 2017 Scott Ryan-Hart

In September during my annual trip down to CincyComiCon wherein I sell my crappy notecard sketches in what amounts to a comic book character rummage sale, I had the pleasure of sitting next to Shawn Pryor. He is an independent comic book writer. He has a kids book called Cash and Carrie that both my kids have devoured. He recently got his book Kentucky Kaiju into production as well. More than that though, he was delightful to sit next to and interact with. From just listening to him pitch to others with his mellifluous voice to chatting about writing comics he was a joy to be around.

That being said, I do not know him well at all, so let's ask him some questions to remedy that.

Onto the Questions.

In a previous career path I made maps for a living, so I have always been interested in the story of place. So I was born in Oklahoma just outside of Oklahoma City, moved to Montgomery, Alabama when I was a wee toddler, and then up to the Birmingham area when I was 3. I lived in a town just to the northeast of Birmingham called Center Point for the next 15 years until I was able to get the hell away from there and go to college. I went to college in northeastern Ohio at Kent State University. Kent Read, Kent Write, Kent State. I met the love of my life there and followed her to Columbus, Ohio so we could get married, and I have been in Columbus since 1997. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

Well, my journey began the day I was born in Valdosta, Georgia, and moved up to Middletown, Ohio at a very young age and I lived there until my early 20s. I went to college at Miami of Ohio and after college had stops in Dayton, Ohio and the Tri-County area in Ohio before moving to Lexington, KY in 2008. I have been in Lexington ever since.

I love a move from the South to the Midwest. That makes for an interesting mindset within the US. Question 2: What would you say is the biggest difference between growing up in Southwestern Ohio and living as an adult in Central Kentucky?

I would say that one of the biggest differences would be the artistic community here in Central Kentucky and how it's grown over the last decade or so. From independent and major comic book creators, live art events, the independent music scene, various forms of theater; there's so much to inspire and motivate individuals to be creative, expressive and influential. Coming up in Southwestern Ohio the artistic community was few and far between unless you made the journey to greater Cincinnati, and back then most of that stuff came at a cost which kept the curious away.

It's nice to hear that the artistic community is growing in Central Kentucky. It is good to hear that the artistic community is growing in general regardless of locale.

Question 3: Cake or pie? Which specific kind and why?

Cake over pie all day, every day. My favorite cake is a double layer yellow cake with all the chocolate icing. There's just something about the texture of the cake and the combined taste of the cake with lots of icing that just makes it special to me. It takes me back to my childhood and the good times I had back then.

Once in a blue moon I can eat pie, but it'll be a derby pie or french silk pie. Not a big fan of the fruit pies.

Cake always takes me back to my childhood since my mom made cakes as a side business. I got pretty good at decorating cakes as a 12 year old kid. I think because I had so much exposure to cakes that I tend to like pies more. It turns out one can be overexposed to cakes.

Question 4: is there a good out there that you just cannot help yourself around? What out there can you just not help but eat?

One of my favorite foods that I cannot help myself around is Spinach & Artichoke dip. But, I'm extremely picky when it comes to who makes the dip at a household or restaurant. The proper tortilla chip is key too. If the chip is this and the dip is too thick, then you're constantly breaking chips and you can't enjoy the dip. If the chip is too thick and the dip is too runny, then there's no joy in that either. It also had to be above warm or hot when served. Cold dip gets the boot. Balance is key when it comes to Spinach & Artichoke dip, and if the balance is there I will eat it until it's gone.

Proper tortilla chips are really important and often overlooked. Random-ass tortillas won't work. Regardless of how nice the dip is, with the wrong delivery system it just won't work. Period. End of Sentence.

So you are a writer of some indy comic books, and if I know anything about writers it is that writers read. Question 5: What comic books are you actively consuming? and do you follow a particular writer regardless of what book they are putting out?

Currently I am reading The Complete Peanuts Collection because I want to re-learn about how to effectively use timing in the short comic format. Plus, it's really cool to see the artistic growth of Charles Schulz from when he first started creating Charlie Brown and the crew to what it became. I'm also reading The Essential Smart Football by Chris Brown, and Shadowshaper by Daniel Jose Older. And I'll pick up a book written by Walter Mosley no matter the subject.

I was looking through some of the earlier Peanuts strips a few years ago and I was surprised by the difference in the models for the characters. There was significant artistic growth from year to year for Schulz. Another interesting one to look through for sequential 3 to 6 panel story telling is Jim Davis. The artistic jumps by that man are impressive. Garfield was a black and white muddy mess for a few years. If you look at the syndicated cartoonists of yesteryear, some were really allowed to grow and evolve. I do not think that is the case these days. It seems that syndicated cartoons have to be fully formed and fleshed out prior to being syndicated now.

The Internet is allowing people to grow and evolve on their own. Take Scott Kurtz from the Internet's own PvPOnline. His original strips are quite different than his current ones. So much growth that you can just look through. Same with Christopher Hastings' Dr McNinja (sadly completed now) and Gunnerkrigg Court by Tom Sidell. It is a fascinating exercise to wade through their early work and see how they have grown and changed.

Question 6: Are their any webcomics that you faithfully consume?

Oh yes. Bounce by Chuck Collins, Princess Love Pon by Shauna Grant, Agents of the Realm by Mildred Louis, Alone by @OliveOilCorp, Ménage à 3 by Gisele Lagace (NSFW) to name a few. (not sure what happened with the font size here. Thanks --the Editor)

There are others, and I would like to look more into WebToon and see what's over there because their collection of webcomics is quite massive.

I have heard of a few of those. The others I will need to take a look at. Since there has been more of a democratization of content do to web-based publishing and such, there is an amazing amount of content out there for people to consume. The issue with that content is that most of it is overwhelmingly terrible, only some of it is remotely palatable, and very little of it is actually good. Since there is such an astounding amount of content out there that means that the amount of truly good things is greater than it ever has been. Question 7: How does a consumer really get through to the signal of good content when there is all this noise out there?

It's difficult to navigate your creative ship through the waters of the internet, conventions and other venues.

I continue to grown and culture my follower bases on social media, attend the conventions where I feel my works will have a visible crowd and receptive eye, create crowdfunding projects, tell family members that are interested in what I do about my projects, monthly newsletters, etc, etc. All those things add up and it prevents me from putting all my eggs in one basket, because you know like I know that if you only have one venue and that venue crashes, you're screwed.

So if someone buys a book of mine online or at a convention, supports my crowdfunding project, or tells someone else of my works via social media, between all those options the signal continues to grow. It's a slow burn, but once the fire starts to become steady you have to work to keep the flame going.

It really is a matter of not finding a gigantic audience at first, but cultivating an intimate, engaged, and committed audience. Then it is all about building from there.

Question 8: Where do you find that you have your most fervent content consumers? Which platform do they come from and what property of yours are they associated with?

The most fervent come from Twitter and Kickstarter and are associated with the all-ages mystery comic book series I created with Giulie Speziani called "Cash & Carrie" which is currently on Amazon, or you can request your local library for a copy.

I created a Kickstarter campaign in 2015 for a Cash & Carrie pilot issue and it was a massive success. Some of those who supported the Kickstarter campaign followed me on Twitter and other social media venues later on. A high number of those who pledged to the 2105 Kickstarter campaign came from Twitter. In 2016 we put together a 72-page Cash & Carrie book and I was able to use Twitter to spread the word repeatedly during it's initial pre-order run and after it was officially released. At least once a week I remind people that the book is available for purchase.

That's interesting. I would not have guessed Twitter as the strongest platform.

As far as Cash and Carrie... both my 13 year old boy and 8 year old girl LOVE it. So... Question 9: Will there be more Cash and Carrie? Pleeeeeze!

Well, from what I have been told Cash & Carrie: Book One is doing pretty well with libraries and bookstores, and I'll also be taking it with me during convention season to boost its profile as much as possible to boost sales further.

Because of this, there will be a Book Two. I'm in the process of figuring out how to make that happen. I may do a crowdfunding project for a "special edition" Cash & Carrie comic book while we work out how we're going to make a Book Two. Cash & Carrie changed my life and I've had plenty of kids and adults tell me how much they enjoy the book, the adventures these two characters have and the inclusivity it brings. I love this book. I'll do all I can to make more of it.

We all loved book one and are eagerly awaiting book 2. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.

Now comes a fill in the blanks question. Question 10: I find that I am mostly _______. Others find that I am mostly _______.

I find that I am mostly introverted. Others find that I am mostly an extrovert, rain or shine.

Both are true. I am more than capable of handling myself in social situations and environments, but I have a tendency to lay low, keep to myself and observe my surroundings. However, as a creative I know that there are moments that you have to be vocal, boisterous and show the passion of your projects to others so they believe in your works so the extrovert in me has no other choice than to come out of its shell and do its thing.

If you are both an introvert and an extrovert Question 11: how do you prefer to recharge? Alone with a good book or in conversation/activities with friends?

I normally recharge with a good book, glass of wine and some music in the background. Granted, it's been awhile since I've been able to do such. Maybe it's time…
Writers always seem to be reading. I would imagine it is both a blessing and a curse.

So from time to time, as an artist I see some work by someone that is so incredibly sublime that it makes me want to throw all my art supplies out and burn my house down to rid the world of the filth I have drawn over the years. Question 12: Is there a writer out there that makes you want to stop smashing keys on a keyboard and just give up writing all together?

In comic books, it's Christopher Priest. He's written some fantastic books and no one has a better grasp of dialogue than he does. No one. In prose, I would say Walter Mosley and the late Octavia Butler because the words they type show no fear. It's inspiring to me and I get mad that I can't get to their level yet. I will. One day.

I believe you definitely will. I really like your work.

Question 13: do you have any superstitions or rituals in your life?

Every time that I table at a convention, I take with me a small toy version of Franklin from Peanuts and Cyborg and place them in a hidden spot on the table for good luck.

I have a lot of rituals, but one that I try my best to do every morning when I wake up is to get up out of bed, take a deep breath, look at the world outside my window, ask myself what mood I'm in and take a step forward to handle my day. I also try to give at least one to two compliments a day because you never know how a compliment can change someone's day or life.

These are great. Many people do not think they have rituals and superstitions, I think they are fooling themselves are have been doing these things so unconsciously, that they did not realize it actually was a ritual/superstition.

I got this questions when I asked Patrick Beja 20 questions a while ago. I enjoy this question because it is deceptively simple, but harbors a wealth of complexity in its answer. Question 14: Are you happy?

As I type this response, I am happy that I am surrounded with wonderful family and friends who are sincere, loving and kind. Internally, I am happy. Creatively, I am happy when I can bring a project to life with fantastic, energized people. Externally, I have dealt with racism and micro-agressions for so long in my life that it's hard to happy externally. It's difficult to be externally happy when some people refuse to see you as equals or human beings. Some days are better than others from an external standpoint.

I am happy for the internal happiness that you are experiencing in your life right now. You seem to be a bit of a creative juggernaut at the moment and I love seeing creators creating. Internal happiness is sometimes very difficult to achieve. I am more than unhappy for you for your external happiness levels. This aspect of our "modern" society infuriates me. It truly does infuriate me on a level that is incredibly deep. I got your back, because it is incumbent upon CIS middle-aged white dudes to step the fuck up. I am doing everything in my power right now to not have this become a political rant, but on today of all days (editor's note: This portion of the post is taking place on January 20th, 2017 as Donald Trump becomes the President) your comment is very poignant, and we the moderate and liberal whites need to be better. We just have to be better at doing. We cannot idly sit on the sidelines.

Let's go to something lighter... Question 15: Is there a mainstream comic title that you would love to write for? If so, which one? If not, why?

Right now, there's only one mainstream comic title that I would like to write: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. It's been on my wish list to write Power Rangers for over 20 years, and for the first time in its history it has a publisher that really behind it wanting to get it out to the masses. Me and a couple of close friends have a tome of stories we can tell that's steeped in the lore of the television series and all of its incarnations. The Power Rangers are the biggest superheroes of the 1990s. I've always enjoyed Super Sentai (the material that Power Rangers originally comes from) and the camaraderie that's shared through the team through thick and thin. Plus the uniform designs, color schemes, mecha and their super-villains bring me joy.

For now, writing Power Rangers is a pipe-dream. I may just do my own Rangers book one day and give it away for free.

Very interesting. I think I was 3 years off from really enjoying the power-rangers as a kid. I was unhappy at the inclusion of live action Saturday morning fair removing my beloved cartoons form the airwaves. Power Rangers has quite the history though, it has been through at least 20 iterations just in it's English incarnation. One could easily see many potential stories out there. So that leads me to ask... Question 16: What are your hopes and fears for the upcoming (now in theaters: Thanks, --The editor) Power Rangers movie?

My hopes are that the film is fun and at least has a decent third act. Seeing how the Power Rangers are super heroes and those types of movies have been massively popular at the box office, the problem I find is that some of the super hero films have a tendency to lack a strong third act and in turn use that act to either kick-the-can to the sequel, which then leads to incomplete cinematic story-telling or the third act is anti-climactic because the antagonist (who looks like a fantastic villain, visually) may be poorly built as a character which leads me as a viewer seeing no real threat for the protagonist.

My fear is that in trying to re-imagine the property, the film will be gritty, possibly dark, and have no soul. We'll see.

I do believe it is setting itself up to be visually stunning with little substance to back it up. My bet is the first act is good, the second is passable and the third is solely there to set up a sequel. I think you might be on the money with this one.

Question 17: Was there a question you were expecting from me that I did not ask?

Hmm...I was kind of expecting a question about first impressions at conventions, when you meet the person tabling to the right or left of you, and how long before you know if you can socialize with that person?

Hopefully that came out the right way.

I've tabled at some shows surrounded by sincere and wonderful people on either side of me where fun stories and tips were shared, and other times i've tabled next to people that were rude and put up barriers on their side of the table that blocked me from people's line of sight while walking down convention aisles. Interesting times.

I think tables at conventions are often just reflections of the world writ large. There are good people and bad people. It is sad that CincyComicCon has rolled up their carpet and called it a day, because it seemed more good than bad. I met many great a person at those cons. I definitely count you in that cadre of great people.

So, now is the time that I turn the tables. Question 18: Are there any questions you need to ask me?

As a matter of fact, I do:

- What is the first thing you ever remember drawing?
- When is the last time that you had a meal that you can't forget about?
- What kind of markers do you use for your sketches?
- What do you like to draw the most?

Alrighty. Here we go.

First thing I remember drawing, that I can actually remember the drawing of and what it looked like afterwards was of a military jet with a pilot in it. I remember being really proud of the fact that I fit the pilot's head in the cockpit.

The last meal that I cannot forget about is, at the moment, from a few days ago when I made some fajita chicken tenders for the fam. It is memorable because both kids enjoyed it, which is rare.

I use Copics for my sketches. I have not been drawing with them nearly as much as I should be though at the moment.

I like drawing fantasy stuff, but I find myself drawing super hero stuff more. When I draw fantasy stuff there is a better chance of me actually drawing a "complete" drawing with back grounds and context and story embedded within the pic, but I find myself drawing little super hero pin-ups more.

And here we go with the penultimate question. Question 19: What are you taking from these 20 Questions that you did not bring in with you?

That for me, there is more to life than just creating comics. I need to fully express my creative abilities in other fields as well and I feel that will help me grow as a creative. Sometimes, we limit ourselves without knowing as to why. At times we limit ourselves due to fear or what others may say, but the truth of the matter is that we will never reach our true potential unless we tap into the areas we fear most and open those doors.

And at times, we just need to go outside, get a breath of fresh air and enjoy life.

That is a good thing to take from these 20 Questions. I am not sure how I helped you to get to that understanding, but I will take it and run with it, and take credit for it even though I am not sure how the 20 questions might have led you to that conclusion. I never know what question 19 will get me, and this answer really has me happy. You do me a great service by saying that this interaction led to anything useful.

Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or as specific, as concrete or philosophical, and as near term or long term as you would like.

Well, I have a number of conventions and mini-conventions that I'll be tabling at this year, including C2e2, Ohio Comic & Toy Con, Derby City, LibraryCon and other places. Creatively, I am working on a plan for Cash & Carrie: Book Two with co-creator Giulie Speziani, as well as a couple of other original graphic novels. If things fall into place, I hope to write a short film this year and possibly shoot it this summer.

I also want to again make sure that I take time off/away from the creative and work world. Sometimes we need to have our own moments of solace and peace, and there's nothing wrong with that. Fresh air. Enjoy life.

Thank you for letting me be a part of this, Scott. I've really enjoyed this. Continued best to you, and blessings to you and your family. Peace.

I too have enjoyed this. I am subscribed to your newsletter and have been digging your tweeting. Cannot wait to see you again at one of these upcoming conventions.

Everyone should follow Shawn on the twitters and sign up for his newsletter. Get his books, goddamnit. Cash and Carrie, Kentucky Kaiju, and FORCE. I don’t often seriously advocate for people to consume others’ content, but seriously, Shawn’s work is amazing and should be consumed by every living being. And even some dead ones, I’m looking your way Dead Grandma Savory.

To recap:
Shawn is really great and I count myself lucky to have met him and interacted with him on this level
Would I want to hang out with him and become his friend?
Umm… I mean, uh, that would be cool and stuff, but you know, if that happened and all that..
I have been away from the blog for a while
I feel badly about that
But, I need interviewees and questioners to keep this moving
Few people are willing to ask me questions for non-interview 20 Q’s
And it is difficult to get people to answer 20 Q’s
Rock | me | Hard Place
Which would be some kind of hard rock lyric from an Scottish band
Rock me hard place, lak it huin’t baen rock’d b’ford
We are Highland Met’l! Thank You, Glisgooooo! Goonit!
On another note, April Fool’s day went off without a hitch
And March Madness finished in April
I am trying to get caffeine out of my system
So I have a nasty headache right now as I type this
This past CincyComiCon was the last, so I will need to find another con to see Shawn at
49 years ago today MLK was assassinated
Looking at the landscape, it looks like it was only 30 years ago
Ugh
Let’s make it look like it was 100 years ago
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 375 - Laura House

January 24, 2017 Scott Ryan-Hart

This week I get the extreme pleasure of asking Laura House 20 questions. I became away if the delightful Ms House because of a myriad of podcasts she has been a guest on. I have heard her on Never Not Funny, Comedy Film Nerds, and most recently, FOFOP. She. Is. A. Delight.

I know a few things about her from these guest appearances, but most of all I know she is dead funny and has one of the best laughs ever. Let's all get to know her better now. Onto the Questions.

I started out my professional life as a cartographer, and one of the things I have always enjoyed is people’s personal geographic stories. For example, I was born outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The family moved to Montgomery, Alabama when I turned 3. A few years later we moved just to the northeast of Birmingham, Alabama where I lived until going off the college. I went to college 12 hours drive away from home at Kent State University in Northeast Ohio. There I met my wife and we settled in Columbus, Ohio smack dab in the center of Ohio. We have been in the Columbus area for the last 19 years. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

I love this question. I was born in Dallas, Texas, the actual city. At birth I was put up for adoption, so my parents were in Corpus Christie, a beach town, when I was born. They didn't even know I existed until I was a month old because I had the flu or something and so I lived with social workers as a sick orphan the first month of my life. Then my parents got me and took me to Grand Prairie, a suburb of Dallas, right between Dallas and Ft. Worth. At 16 I was a foreign exchange student. I lived in Sarpsborg, Norway on Hannestadfjellet Street. I was told the word meant something like "Rooster Mountain." It was south of Oslo on the east side of the Oslo Fjord, maybe 10 or so miles from Sweden. I lived there a year. Then was back to Grand Prairie for my senior year of high school. Then I went to UT Austin. After college, I stayed in Austin for a few years, then moved to LA. A year or two into living in LA, I got a great job and in San Francisco and lived there for a year. I moved back to LA and have lived here ever since. My mom has passed, but my Dad still lives in Grand Prairie. They moved once because a new highway went through our old house. My brother lives in Dallas about 40 min drive from Dad.

Oddly enough you are not the only person I have done a 20 Questions with who had a brief stint in Norway and lived in Austin (he still does). Interesting. My family growing up hosted a girl from Norway. Everyone's connected to Norway some how.

I can only guess that your school did not offer Norsk as a language. Question 2: was it difficult to go for a year into a school where you did not speak their primary language? And by the end of that time could you speak Norwegian?

It was hard sometimes, when I felt lonely and didn't know where to fit in. But I was a teenager - I felt that anyway. I loved the adventure. I loved meeting new people. I loved the family I lived with. Overall it was way more good than hard. And yes, I became fluent in Norwegian. I could also understand Swedish, Danish and German.

I knew that Norwegian and Swedish were super close, but was not aware that Danish and German were that close.

Now it is time for my typical question 3 that I have stolen blindly from the unparrallelable (better than incomparable) Paul F Tompkins, and then added just a touch to make it a longer question. Question 3: Cake or Pie? Which kind specifically and why?

PIE!!!
Cake is essentially oversweetened bread. It's bullshit. It's nonsense. If it didn't have frosting, it'd just be a stupid "coffee cake." And a cupcake without frosting is a muffin. Pie is creamy deliciousness. And I'm talking about chocolate cream pie, of course. Or French Silk. Black Bottom. These pies are smooth, rich and topped with clouds of whipped awesomeness. Fruit pies can suck a bag of dicks. Let a dessert be a dessert, I don't need fruit in it trying to mule in some nutrients. Lemon pie is good, too. In a graham cracker crust (obvi).

Chocolate cream pie is the breakfast of champions. I am on board with this decision.

Question 4: Shouldn't there be better and different options other than graham cracker crusts? Graham cracker crust is so weirdly specific and oddly singular.

Short answer - no. Name one crust better than graham. Pastry kind, it's prob good in France but the ones I've had are just flour-y flavorless dough. Oreo crusts seem super fun but it's too much. Graham has a nice flavor that holds up the taste of creamy chocolate or lemon. It doesn't compete or override.

I'm fully open to reconsider my position in some kind of pie-off or such. This has simply been my experience.

Graham.

I was really hoping you had an answer other than graham crackers. I have been forced to be gluten free in my life and gluten free graham crackers taste like dusty butt. I was really hoping beyond hope there. Crushed again by my love of gluten.

Question 5: What part of your life that you enjoy can you no longer do without undo detrimental effects?

Well, this is easy. I'm 9 years sober. So anything boozy has been bad for me for a long while. Good news is that I love being sobriety. But it really put a dent in my enjoyment of dive bars, big fruity umbrella drinks and making out with strangers.

I would imagine sobriety does bite into the enjoyment of making out with strangers just a bit. At least it would let some realize (if the making-out-with-strangers situations continue) that the behavior has something deeper rooted than merely a drinking issue. Congrats on the 9 years. I cannot imagine the early, and potential continual, difficulty of going to a bar and being sober. It would be like working in a place with Mt Dew on tap for free for me... I love that green-ish elixir of life.

You are a writer, a stand-up, a podcaster, and a meditation teacher/mentor... Question 6: Do you ever really have any downtime, and if so, what do you do with it?

Funny. My reaction to the question was "I hardly do anything," but I've been too busy for 2 days to answer, so I guess I do stuff. The nature of the things you mentioned is that they function in downtime. I'm not necessarily on stage doing stand-up, but some part of me is observing and processing ridiculous life at all times. Same with meditation. Since I teach it, there's always some new/better way to explain something, some fun new analogy to use. And if I'm not doing any of those, I'm physically writing or head writing (probably called "thinking"). I also teach writing and I act and produce and audition and stuff.

But I love downtime! One way to look at it is I'm always working. But I think in a way I'm never working. Because I love all that stuff and would do it anyway for the most part. But when I'm not doing anything-anything... I've been dating, saw Thievery Corporation at the Greek last week. I got rid of cable and am deep into Amazon and Netflix. Love fleabag & easy & tried to love The Wire but couldn't get into it, even tho Idris Elba. I'm neck-deep in Oz, tho. Damn. And the past few days, when it wasn't Oz, it was Portlandia. Not a common coupling, but maybe because I'm going to Portland today? Not sure.

I have a dog I hang out with. I have lots of friends like family I spend time with. I have a best friend in New Mexico & road trip with the dog to visit her & her family once or twice a year. TV, dog & friends, I guess. And movies. But that's work in a way. At least I'm told it's a legit write-off.

Well, it sounds like you have the yin and yang of downtime. It both doesn't exist for you and yet is all around you. Truly a sound of one hand clapping type of thing. That and you are crazy busy. I mean really busy. wow.

Question 7: what tool/s if any do you use for time management, with your crazy amount of stuff and all?

THE NIGHT BEFORE. My best move is what I do the night before. I plan out my day with appointment times, what to do between them, often what I'll probably eat--if I'm home what I'll make myself or if I'm in a certain part of town I'll think of where to eat there. I also schedule in fun stuff and goof-off time. I don't do this in a rigid way, I do it more in a dreamy kind of "If I could wish for a perfect tomorrow..."

It reduces my anxiety, gives me lots to look forward to, pre-solves problems that may come up the next day, and often gives me new ideas for the day.

Someone once called it a "Future Journal" - you write about tomorrow the way you might journal about something that's already happened today. It's part visualization, I guess, but I don't like close my eyes and go into great detail. I write down what needs to be done in order and how I can build other things around that. I'm writing down a to-do list. I'm just imagining it out a little more. I guess I'm imagineering a great day! Boy, do I sound like a real hippy jerk!

But it helps so much. And when I don't do it, I feel kind of lost in my day.

For some reason when I do this the night before, I'm better prepared for my day, as if I've been coached on "How to have a good Thursday" or such. Like today, I have an appt 11-12. I jotted down things I could do at home before and one was to answer your email. When I sat at my computer, it simply occurred to me to answer your email - like I knew what to do because I thought about it last night. I also know I'll have a vanilla smoothie and I'll start turkey chili in the crockpot. OMG I'M SUCH A SQUARE! Also, for lunch I'll have chili and a Trader Joe's salad because there are 2 in the fridge. etc etc

I mention this and in such detail because it's helped me a TON and maybe it'll help someone else. I feel OVERWHELMED easily, and I juggle a lot of career, information, to-do stuff all the time.

When I visualize/plan it out the night before, I see how it'll all work together and I'll be productive and have down-time and eat well, etc.

So I wake up feeling like it's already going to be a good day.

That is an incredibly easy, yet amazingly helpful method of keeping your schedule together. My time management and organizational management is questionable at best. I am starting to run into some issues with not accomplishing tasks in an expedient time frame due to my relative lackof organization. I need to get on top of that stuff.

One thing I noticed... You are making turkey chili in the crockpot and Trader Joe's Chili in the fridge to have lunch... That is a bunch of chili to be consumed in a relatively short span of time. Question 8: What is it with the chili?

You just wasted a question--

"chili and a Trader Joe's salad"

It's my chili and a TJ salad. I'm not the Howard Hughes of chili.

No question is wasted. "I'm not the Howard Hughes of chili." is one of the best responses ever. EV.ER.

Question 9: Understanding that it is not chili, what are you the Howard Hughes of?

I love this question. Wish I had a super cool answer. But I'll say pennies. In that I save them in jars which of course is pretty normal. But I mention it because earlier this year I wanted a smart TV. 2 months ago I coin starred the pennies & used it to BUY A NEW TV!!!

Real proud of that.

Also - that's a lot of change.

Holy shit... you bought a modern TV with pennies... That is a bunch of pennies. The cheapest Smart TV I could find was kind of smallish, but we will go with it. It was around $140. Let's say you got that TV on sale for 10% of. That means the price would be $126. That is 12,600 pennies, and a penny weighs 0.088 ounces. So you had.... multiply the weight by the number divide by 16 to get pounds... You had nearly 70 pounds of pennies just hanging around? That is a bunch of copper and zinc.

Question 10: Fill in the blanks... I find that I am mostly _______. Others find that I am mostly ______.

I was lazy getting this to friends, then they were lazy getting back to me.

I thought I'd say: I find that I am mostly funny. But I didn't tell my friends that. I just asked them to fill in the 2nd.

& my friend, superstar Mo Gaffney said: Others find that I am mostly hilarious.

So I'm either on-track or I slightly undersell myself. You decide.

Actually, she offered options: Kind or Hilarious or Energetic or Smart.
And she's the only one who got back to me.

I'm glad you took the lack of responses in stride. Some days I would have taken the lack of responses as a reason to change my response to "not worth their time" and then cry myself to sleep.

I really love that you said "funny" and your friend said "hilarious." Methinks you do not give yourself enough credit. You are hilarious, and you can take that to the bank. The bank won't accept it, but you can take it there.

Question 11: why do you think your self assessment is so similar to your friend's response?

Ha. I've done the taking their lack of response personally and the crying, now I'm just like - they're busy.

I think my friend's answer was similar because all we do together is laugh. Not all, but mostly.
I have a good group of girlfriends who laugh a ton but we also call each other when we're down, upset, or tempted to go on a murder rampage.

She probably chose to say hilarious because it's part of our favorite time together. The most fun part.

I think you should be pleased that Mo did not say "about to go on a murderous rampage."

This question is one of my favorite ones because its simplicity hides its depth. Question 12: Are you happy?

Yes, I'm happy.

I say this as someone who's been diagnosed with and medicated for depression 3 times.
I know the difference.
I'm somewhat obsessed with happiness and consider myself a bit of an expert on the topic.

I think we're always in a flux of emotions. Everything external to us is ever-changing, and so are our moods and feelings.
I think what I mean by saying I'm happy is that I know where to find it when I wander far away from it.

I know that my experience is going to come from what I'm giving my attention. So if I'm focused on news, facebook, bills, deadlines, criticism, etc.
--general bad stuff, ie stuff that causes me stress, worry, anxiety - general unhappiness.
I know to turn my attention to things that make me happy, things I feel grateful for.

I know if something keeps bothering me, I either need to work through some kind of upset or resentment and let it go because it's taking too much ofmy attention.
or i need to turn my active attention to things that are pleasing.

Also, I've meditated twice a day for about 10 years. With each meditation, I experience a sense of bliss that's internally generated.
Over time, I've become very familiar with that place and it gets easier to get to.

does that make sense?

That makes perfect sense. In light of recent electoral events I feel that I should probably start meditating myself. Clarity of mind is something to relish at the moment.

So, this should be fun. We are at the exciting Questions 13: Do you have any superstitions or rituals (let me define rituals for this particular question. In this instance a ritual is a set of systemic actions one takes to intentionally alter their existing state of mind. For example, when I played soccer in high school I had an elaborate system of actions to get myself prepared for playing a the game. At the time it was my "lucky ritual" that I started doing because I did it once and had an amazing game, but it turns out it was more of a way of changing my focus from the day to day notions of a high school kid to being focused at the game at hand. make sense)?

Ok. But what were some of your actions in this elaborate ritual?

Oof... well this is a thing that will be slightly embarrassing... okay... it goes as follows.

1. Briefs... boxer briefs did not exist
2. lucky polka dot boxers.
3. Soccer shorts (they were white so you could see the dots if you looked, I was fashionable, yo)
4. Old ratty Tshirt with sleeves cut off
5. Soccer jersey
6. Inner poly wicking hiking socks
7. Light weight mid-calf cotton sock
8. Shin guards
9. Soccer socks
10. Neoprene knee brace
11. Cleats

By that time I was focused on playing the game

You?

This sounds suspiciously like getting dressed.

I think I do have rituals. I believe I write better if I light a candle. I had a friend who told me that whenever I want to write, to light a candle, then write while it's lit, when I'm done blow it out. So lighting a candle is my cue to write. It kind of works.

I used to try the exact right amount of alcohol to make me have a good stand-up show. I think I landed on a beer & a half. I'm sober now. Also I think they weren't related. I had a good set or a bad set depending on a million other things, like who's in the audience, for one example. But early in comedy whenever I had a good set I tried to replicate what I did. One time I swam laps at the gym then had a good set. I was like, shit, now I have to swim before a set? Now, I think it was that I'd exercised and had some endorphins, some mental clarity. But 23 year olds are dumb. If they believe swimming will yield good comedy, they'll try it. Ultimately I landed on alcohol because it was easier than going swimming, drying off, going to and from the gym, changing for the show, etc. Also I'm an alcoholic, so I have to assume that was part of the allure.

Truth. I do a lot of stuff to influence outcome that is more like, psychological. Like if I have a meeting or audition and I feel "vaguely bothered" or "in my head about something," there's stuff I do. I rarely know what I'm actually feeling. Feelings show up super vague for me. So, like after an audition I'll crave a hot fudge sundae real hard. If I look into it I'll find that "I'm just hoping I get that role" or "I'm afraid I didn't do well." Before a meeting/audition/etc I'll think I feel fine but I'm restless, or easily annoyed. It took me years to notice that when I had a stand-up show, I'd be mad all day. I'd snap at boyfriends and be irritated all day. After the show I'd feel great. I was just nervous. But I didn't feel, "I'm nervous about my show tonight," I felt "God! Why is every driving like a fucking asshole!" So, that's what I mean, I almost never know what I actually feel.

So, often before a big appointment I do the following.
I'll freewrite for 10 or so minutes - what I'm feeling, is something going on? After that I might right a fear list - what am I afraid of as it pertains to the meeting/appointment. I have a few friends I can call & read them the fear list. They may give input like "Okay, none of that is happening now" or "If you don't get this job it doesn't mean you're worthless - that's extreme thinking," etc. Then I'd take some minutes to pray to have each fear removed. and ask god "what would you have me be?" Then I sit quietly and see if anything occurs to me. I usually get insight like, "Go have fun, it doesn't matter, be yourself, you've lived your whole life without working there you'll be fine, just show up, just listen," stuff like that. I always feel better. It's a real structured way to deal with fears that I otherwise push down or ignore.

Does that sound weird? It's not something I usually share with people. But I assume we all get afraid about work stuff sometimes.

This is an amazingly wonderful response.

First off, I feel like I need to defend myself just a tad about my pre-game ritual in my youth. I can clearly see that my prep was very just much like "getting dressed." That being said, it did involve a very particular way of rolling the socks up my leg and some breathing exercises though. It was not just me shoving my feet into socks really quickly.

Second off, I love the intentionality that you have in addressing your uneasiness. That is some great self-care and work right there. If you think I am not going to try some of that for myself, you are mistaken. I am often impressed by the responses I get for this question, and yours is the most impressive so far.

Question 14: Of the myriad of different things you do (acting, writing, teaching meditation, podcasting, stand-up, etc...) what do you find to be the most fulfilling?

I feel like I want to say teaching is the most fulfilling and performing is the most gratifying.
I wasn't sure the distinction, so I looked them up.

fulfilling is satisfying. gratifying is enjoyable. So I think my instincts were right.

I love teaching somebody something. I love teaching meditation -- people only 100% identify with their thoughts, then they get this whole new experience.
it's amazing to see and incredible to play a role in that. it gives me physical energy and it affects my heart emotionally - it's sharing a heart connection with someone.

performing i love because - oh shit, i just realized it's in the same way. i'm connecting with a roomful of people, but it's different because it's about me initially.
when i teach it's about the person i'm teaching. i share information and experience and I'm tuned in to how they're receiving it. my focus is --is this landing with them? is this helping them?
when i perform, i'm interested if what i say is landing, and i make adjustments for things to land, but 80% or more, I have stuff I'm going to say. I thought of it, i've said it before, I think it's funny.
i'm not trying to get the audience to some new place.

both are about connection, though. i guess i say teaching is more fulfilling because it's a connection but the person is, sorry to put a heavy thing to it, they're changed forever. teaching someone fills in a gap in education or experience with the intent that it benefits the person.

performing, i connect with an audience, or i don't. but when i connect it's mostly super fun for me, they're not going to be forever benefitted by my performance. but we are all sharing nice moments during the show.

I love that you determined that both teaching and performing are aspects of connection. I definitely have not framed them both through the same lens before. Individual versus group connection. Even though they are ostensibly for different ultimate purposes, they are still human connections and interactions.

So... Question 15: other than when you are teaching meditation to someone, where do you see yourself being most present?

Easy. When I'm making out with someone I like. Next!

That makes sense.

Question 16: Is there a question that you were expecting me to ask that I have not?

I thought you might ask the follow up question of: Have you made out with people you didn't like?

To which I'd have answered: most certainly.

I think most people have made out with people they do not like. I know many people who have made with people they thought they would like. Turns out many people are not as great judges of character as they are judges of physical attractiveness.

So... Question 17: What do you look for in someone you want to make out with?

I got stuck on this one. What do I look for in someone I want to make out with? To be sadly honest I'm not that picky. I kind of wonder what it's like to make out with almost every guy. When you're 10 ppl say you're boy crazy. Older, ppl call it slutty, I guess. Tho I was never labeled that. I think my baby face protected me.

If I'm at a party & chat with someone for a while, I want to make out with them. I guess if they show interest & make me laugh. I think I'm supposed to look for more qualities but that's about it.

Cute, makes me laugh & wants to make out with me.

No shaming here. You could want to make out with someone because their hair is brown and we'd all be fine with that. As long as the make-outs are between consenting adults, who am I to judge. I would not say that is slutty behavior at all. Older people are dumb.

So, now I turn the tables for a question. Question 18: Is there a question/are there any questions you would like to ask me?

Here's my question for you - What's the most gratifying part of doing 20 Questions for you?
& I have a 2nd question. Has someone already asked you that? If so, I want a do-over.

Well, that is an easy one. I get to know people in a much more thorough and (in many ways) intimate way through this process. We have been emailing back and forth for 5 months, and honestly I don't often do that with some of my best friends. I will let you in a on little secret. This process is honestly a bit of an excuse to become friends with people I enjoy on the Internet. It works to varying degrees. There are people that I asked my 20 Questions to years ago who I consider friends now, and there are people I spent over 6 months corresponding with who might not remember who I am.

Now onto the second question. Yes, I have been asked that. You may have a do-over, so Question 18A: Do you have any other questions for me?

If you had the power to change ONE historical event (excluding Trump not being elected)....what would you change and what would you hope would be different in the world today because of that change of history?

Boom.

Wow, this is a crazy interesting question. The whole idea of the Butterfly Effect makes this question have ramifications far greater than just altering the action. Historical actions have historical significance and if the action is removed, what does that mean? Private negative experiences are what I have grown from, so I am less likely to remove events from my life that may have been negative to start with because they have made me who I am. To mitigate the potential error propagation, the altered action would need to be relatively personal and recent, so we are no longer talking about any significant historical event and just taking the definition of "historical" as meaning "in the past." I had loaded nachos today for lunch and it is not sitting well with me. I think I should have made the time to walk to the market and get something healthier.

So, we are at the penultimate question... Question 19: What are you taking from this 20 Questions that you did not bring with you?

I appreciate all your big words but I think you avoided the question. Wasn't about personal history, was about World History - if US hadn't made the Louisiana Purchase or brought over slaves or if G Washington did want to be king or if Henry 8 hadn't started a church or if Hitler's parents had been nicer to him ...YOU HAD THE POWER TO HYPOTHETICALLY CHANGE ANYTHING AND YOU DIDN'T!. That's something you'll have to live with.

What I have taken, so really, what you've given me in this experience is a greater sense of comfort in the world.
Sounds big, and it is. But surface-level Twitter is like, no thanks kinda scary. Sometimes there's a sense of finding a like-minded person in a tweet and maybe follow them or go down their rabbit hole posts for a while.
But you were like a hand extending outward in a good way and invited me into what's become about 6 months of intimacy. Honest questions and honest answers. More in-depth than 2 people at a party, unless it was maybe a 6 month party.
So that's what I've gotten. A connection. Which comes with a sense of being seen & heard and on some level appreciated. Which is a great thing, especially amongst all the sound and fury.

Okay, here is the thing. I will clarify my response for the historical time-altering. Everything that is now is only because of what was in the past. I am a big believer in the butterfly effect and non-linear recursive mathematics (chaos theory) which both ascribe to the concept of compounding the effects of change over time or iterations.

So let's look at a historically significant change that many people talk about. A bunch of people would say that they would go back in time and whack Hitler before he became a force to be reckoned with. So Hitler started a world-wide war that killed a total of 75 to 80 million people (including the ethnic genocides, civilian casualties, and military losses). Potentially those 75 to 80 million people would be saved if Hitler had not invaded Poland... but by saving those 75 to 80 million people you have basically made the close to 10 billion people that have come after that war to not ever be. I am one of those 10 billion people and my family is part of that 10 billion. I like my family and am happy with how my life has turned out, and I like the movement forward by society since the 1940's.

Now let's look at personal tragedy that is life altering, but may not actually effect the overall timeline of world events (as we know it). On my 19th birthday, I witnessed my best friend's father get hit by a drunk driver. He was killed and it really messed with me. At 19 I lost my invulnerability, I realized that we are mortal beings who only have a limited amount of time on this rock spinning around a star spinning on a galactic disc. The trauma of the event altered me to my very core. The changes that have taken place within me are in no small part due to that event taking place. The person I met and married, I would not have met and married. My children would not be, and my best friend who just had a beautiful baby girl would not have brought that life into the world had that even not taken place. That event, while tragic and despair inducing at the time, has tempered me into the person I am today, and has formed many of the people who I love today. I do not think I would change that now, 20+ years on.

So, I may have been a little flip in my response about loaded nachos (which were not great, I mean seriously they were like lead in my belly), but I stand by the analysis. I can happily live with the results of my hypothetical inaction. I did think it through, and very seriously, because it is a great question.

Now onto what you have told me that you are leaving with that you did not come in with. Wow. I am humbled by your response. Connections... real connections are difficult to generate in today's digital world. So much of our interactions are fleeting noises that when we have a sustained connection it actually means something.

I really have relished the contact that we have had, and will miss it when we are done. I have seriously enjoyed conversing with you via these 40+ odd emails and hope that this conversation has helped us to become actual internet friends. You are a person I would love to meet up with to share food and laughs, and I hope that the feeling is mutual. I hope that we both make the effort to stay in contact, because you are a goddamned delight.

last one... Question 20: What's next? Be as concrete or as vague as you want, as short-term or long-term as you feel comfortable, and as grounded or philosophical as you would like.

FEELING IS MUTUAL!!! Let's stay in touch & maybe we cross paths in human form face-face one day!

Next? Going back to bed. Ha just kidding. i will give you a characteristically super long answer.

Your questions have corresponded with an interesting time. My boyfriend of 6 years, 2 off/on before that, 10 sort of circling each other before that-- so 18 years of liking this dude, some of those years included travel and holidays together, parents birthdays, hospital visits. Family. Well, he broke up with me in a sentence on July 31. "I don't want to work on it any more."

So, while I was answering your questions, I was also working on myself -- why was i with him, what was i getting from that, who am i on my own, what do i really want.
the things we explore when things fall apart and it's time to rebuild.

And it's been good. As you clearly understand from your answer to my last question. I didn't want it to happen, but I like where it's gotten me.
I want to act. I came to LA to act, then I shut down somewhere. I've made a living writing and I've kept performing to various degrees, but I know I want to act - so I am.

I will spend the next year boyfriend-free and continuing to pursue my own best interests. all the energy i was willing to use to work on that relationship gets poured back into me.

So what's next is to keep on with where I'm headed. Letting myself show up for the life I want.

Well, I, for one, love you working on yourself and pouring all the energy that was consumed by your relationship into yourself. I want to remain email friends and will happily email with you for as long as you are willing to put up with me.

I have enjoyed this 20 Questions immensely and, as I stated previously, you are a goddamn delight. I feel like I am a better person for getting to know you better.

As it is, everyone should follow you on Twitter, visit your website, and listen to your podcast, "Will you Med with Me?"

Thank you thank you thank you, Laura.

To recap:
This is a long one but well worth the read
I love asking thoughtful people 20 Questions
It is even better when that person is creative and has a very strong point of view
I really love me some Laura House
Now I need to listen to “Will You Med with Me.”
I have waaay too many podcasts in my repertoire
Did not get the opportunity to march this past weekend
Little Man was in a swim meet
That will eat up some time
He dropped 5 seconds on his 100m fly
It is amazing to see him drop time in such short distances
Hopefully he sticks with it
Netflix’s Voltron Season 2 is up and running
I think I will start my consuming of Voltron now
I still need to watch the series finale of Sherlock
I also have a bajillionty things to do for my job
And I need to invoice a client for a map as well
I have another interview that is just about done as well
Maybe for next week
Have a great week everyone

20 Questions Tuesday: 364 - JP Sears

September 20, 2016 Scott Ryan-Hart

This week I have something unusual in store for the 20 Questions. Usually I have to go begging people for questions or I approach people I think will be interesting and beg them to answer my 20 dumb questions. This week, as a change in plans, I have been approached by someone wanting to be asked my 20 Questions.

This week I am asking JP Sears 20 Questions. I know very little about Mr Sears. He has a YouTube channel (Awaken with JP) and you can schedule some personal sessions with JP through his website AwakenWithJP.com. He is a mindfulness spirituality practitioner and teacher. But other than that, I don't know much about him. I guess this is what the 20 Questions will be for.

As my very few consistent readers know, my first career was as a cartographer. I have always loved maps and mapping things out. When I was studying geography, I really enjoyed the concept of a "geographic story." Let me share with you my personal geographic story. I was born just outside of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma at Tinker AFB. As an Air Force Brat my family moved to Montgomery, Alabama and stayed there a few years before moving 2 hrs north to just to the Birmingham, Alabama area, more specifically, in a smallish town called Center Point. I went off to Kent State University in Northeastern Ohio where I met my college sweetheart. We both went to grad school in Columbus, Ohio at Ohio State, and have lived in the Greater Columbus Area for almost 20 years now. Question 1: What is your geographic story?

I grew up in northwestern Ohio and then moved to Southern California when I was 23 because Ohio wasn’t spiritual enough for me. Two years ago I moved to the east coast of the US because I got too spiritual for Southern California, it couldn’t handle me. More recently, I’ve moved from practicing hardcore presence in the Now to being present in the Soon. It’s a much more progressive place for me to reside.

I am not certain that Northwestern Ohio is spiritual enough for anyone. It is kind of a spiritual void, ask any of the dead-eyed drones living there.

So, with your level of enlightenment, Question 2: Where would you most like to live?

I’d like to find a place with the spiritual pretension-ness of Santa Monica, the organic-ness of Ashland, OR, the unkept armpit hair of Boulder, CO, and the Ayahuasca-ness of Peru. So, in other words, I’m still looking for real estate.

I'm not sure that Shangri-La exists. Maybe it is like that old maxim of you can choose 2 of the 3: good, fast, or cheap. I would suggest the armpit hair and pretension-ness... That's got to exist, right? (Not a question, only rhetorical. We all know that is Berkley.)

To steal a bit from Paul F Tompkins. Question 3: cake or pie? Which specific kind, and why?

Definitely pi. The sacred geometry behind it is simply far more sacred AND geometrical than the glutenous filled boring poison that is the wet dream of any child's birthday party. Always pumpkin. And always exactly 3.14159 ounces of it.

Oh, the ratio of diameter to circumference wins again. It really is irrational how many people enjoy pie. Measuring to the hundred thousandth place is difficult. I commend your precision.

Question 4: If you had to choose between precision and accuracy, which do you go for?

Accuracy. It’s always way more precise.

Interesting. Accuracy without precision can be an issue, and accuracy does not presuppose precision... and vice versa. These can be mutually exclusive properties. One can be accurate without being precise, and one can be precise without being accurate. It is like the yin and yang of targeting.

My favorite yoga position to say is "chaturanga dandasana." It is great to say in an announcer's voice. Question 5: Do you have a favorite yoga posture that you just enjoy saying? Not necessarily doing, but saying.

Yes, a cliff side Anjali Mudra is my favorite pose to say that I do. Speaking of the dangerous location in which I say that I do the pose adds more mystique, which obviously gives me better results from the yoga session that I talk about doing.
JP

P.S. Check out “What I Love About The Olympics” my latest Ultra Spiritual video.

Ookaay… Interesting that you want me to look at your video. Not quite germane to our discussion, But I will give it a view.Anyway… dangerous locations do add mystique to everything. My favorite is cliffside milkshake making. The milkshakes are just better when there is some risk. Everything is more vibrant when one's fear of heights is engaged. I am quite the milkshake maker. Really I am a bit of a milkshake marvel. Most people do not know of my amazing capability to make milkshakes. It is one of my best hidden talents.

Question 6: Do you have a hidden talent that people would be surprised about?

Yes, I’m exquisitely talented in having the inability to pay attention when someone is going on and on about milkshakes.

That is not nearly hidden enough. Your loss anyway. I have been perfecting a cookie butter milkshake that I can never eat. It is very much a “the sound of one-hand clapping” thing. I am perfecting something of which I cannot experience. How do you like them apples? Rhetorical question not the actual question...

So, I unfortunately have to be gluten free. It is under much duress and gnashing of teeth that I am no longer allowed to eat any breads or grains that actually stay together when chewing... I have watched your gluten video... Question 7: why must you mock my pain?

First of all, congratulations for achieving gluten intolerance status. It's true, I do not people who can still tolerate gluten. It's my way of helping wake those people up so that they can live a good life of progressive intolerance to gluten. One of the main purposes of my life is to democratize gluten intolerance for all. Your next step on your path of progression will be to become intolerant to those who can tolerate gluten.

You.. you seem to have turned that on me somehow… I am only intolerant of them because I want to eat a doughnut so badly. A nice yeasty doughnut that has been deep fried and glazed with some type of confection. Those were the days, my friend. I could eat doughnuts with wild abandon. I miss them so much.

Question 8: "Doughnut" or "Donut?"

Donut. The simplicity in its spelling bleeds Taoism.

Question 9: Aside from any "free Tibet" arguments, does Taoism actually bleed?

It bleeds more than Confucius bleeds confusion.

You have not read Confucius lately then. His witticisms are confusing and sometimes just outright wrong

"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."

All I have to say is SPIDERS

"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."

Even the best jobs have drudgery.

"I hear and forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand."

Ugh... I get it. Confucius is a visual and kinesthetic learner.

Any hoo...

Question 10: Fill in the blanks. I find that I am mostly _______. Others find that I am mostly _______.

Humble. Amazingly humble.

It is really nice that you are on message with yourself.

Now I am going to ask a deceptively simple question that has nearly infinite levels of complexity underneath it's simple form. Contemplate the complexity before answering it because it requires a surprising amount of introspection.

Question 11: Are you happy?

No, I don't do emotions. They're too damn human for me. The feelings that I am into are very non-human emotional feelings such as bliss, ecstasy, euphoric, unconditional love, and abundance. I'm all of these things and an abundant amount of more than them too.

That makes so much more sense. I understand you on a much deeper level now. Question 12: Transcendence can be an emotion, right?

Transcendence is a dimension of enlightenment where you end the trance of having emotions. Trans-END-ence. I don’t know exactly why the word has the “ence” on the end. But I do know that you can’t spell transcendence without “end.” And that’s exactly what you should do to all of your non-spiritual emotions, which is all of them by the way… End them.
JP

P.S. Check out “Flat Earth Theory” my latest Ultra Spiritual video.

I am starting to think that you are only using my blog for some kind of marketing thing. Weird segue since I am a geographer at heart and a cartographer by training. Anyway… Back at it…

"Ence" just shows that it is a noun and sounds better than "transcendosity."

Oh, unlucky 13... Question 13: do you have any superstitions or rituals?

I don't believe in superstitions because I think they're bad luck. I do have rituals though, big time. Who do you think put the ritual in spiRITUAL?

The same people who put the "GLAD in gladiator?"

Anyhoo... I figured you would be against superstitions, but full of ritual. That seems to be how you roll.

Question 14: What ritual do you find yourself doing the most? What does it do for you? (2 questions at the same time? my dojo, my rules)

Posting yoga photos of myself to Instagram. What does it do??? Scientifically speaking, I’ve documented that posting a photo from your yoga session makes your yoga session 50% more effective. And if there’s a 50% chance that you’re gonna die in your yoga photo set up, then your yoga photo is 50% more effective at making your yoga session 50% more effective. Cliff side Anjali Mudras and Downward Dogs at high tide are my favorite.

Question 15: Do you really think that risk increases reward?

No. But it definitely increases the effectiveness of your yoga session. And there’s significant reward in that. The only alternative is to increase your risk of being unrewarded.

That is some convoluted risk assessment. It seems almost circular. Well we are on the downward slope of the 20 Questions now. Question 16: is there a question you were expecting me to ask you that I have not?

Funny, because I was expecting you to ask that question. I do anticipate you asking me what my hair care beauty secrets are.

So, you have lustrous silky smooth copper colored hair that seems to always be amazingly coifed. Question 17: what are your hair care beauty secrets?

I'm not telling, because they are secrets.

Fair point, but it is so lustrous... It is like copper silk. Oh well.

It is time to turn the tables. I am a little afraid to ask this, but Question 18: do you have any questions for me?

Yes. How intimidated does your higher self feel by me?

My higher self is beyond simple concepts like intimidation. To be intimidated implies inferiority and superiority. My higher self is beyond such base concepts because my higher self understands that aspiration for superiority is hope and that hope only leads to pain because it is the acknowledgement of something better that is missing. My higher self is beyond the trifles of this mortal concept of "better."

That being said, I have never accessed my higher self and have been quivering in your inimitable shadow for 18 questions.

Question 19: what are you taking from these 20 questions that you did not bring in with you?

I'm definitely taking a new ray of enlightenment. I've learned so much reading my own answers to your questions.

Well, I am glad to have supplied a platform for you to inspire yourself. I am the mirror and you are the bird calling itself "pretty."

Question 20: What's next? Be as vague or concrete, as close term or long-term, as philosophical or grounded as you want.

Next I'm going to the Symbiosis Gathering where thousands of people are coming to see me. I think they might have some other speakers and performers too... In addition to my speaking, I'll be practicing some hard-core being as well as aggressive compassion while I'm there.

Okay everyone… that was a thing. Not sure I know any more about JP now than I did beforehand, but I did enjoy my conversation with him. Give JP a follow on Twitter, subscribe to his YouTube channel, give his Instagram a looksie, and check out his website and his Facebook page.

The Symbiosis Gathering is this week, so if you want to see him, that is where you need to go.

To recap:
That was odd
The line blurs between what is and what is portrayed pretty strongly
CincyComicCon was a bunch of fun the weekend of the 9th
I drew these whilst there

I am happy with them
Our dishwasher is broken
And the kids are useless when it comes to dishes
I have 2 other interviews going on right now
They are going slowly
I need a couple more
Anyone want to answer 20 Questions?
Even if you have done it before
I have at least 20 more questions I can ask anyone
Have a great week everyone